Hardest schools to get into

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MiturBinesderty said:
What are the hardest medical schools to get into based on your experiences.

The top ranked schools and the schools in the most popular cities tend to be pretty competitive, getting a ton of strong apps to choose from. Those state schools with difficult to meet residency requirements may be near impossible to get into if you don't meet the specifics.
 
MiturBinesderty said:
What are the hardest medical schools to get into based on your experiences.

UT Houston is pretty hard. You need badges to get in just about every door. Security is very tight.
 
i think this whole admission process is just whacky. I know many people who got into the top ranks but got waitlisted by the lower tiers. you just never know what each school is looking for. in a way, all schools are difficult to get in.
 
Ghost said:
UT Houston is pretty hard. You need badges to get in just about every door. Security is very tight.

Ba-dum-ching!
 
The University of Utah. Even difficult for instate kids. They like to brag that they are more difficult to get into than Harvard. 🙄

I think they take everyones app and pin it up on the wall. They then blind-fold someone and have them throw a dart at the wall. They do this 80 times and pick out their class. :laugh: :laugh:
That is about how logical their selections are.
 
Mayo Medical School...4,000+ applicants, 34 MD slots, 6 MSTPS...do the math...purely on percentages this is the most difficult school in the nation...
 
snobored18 said:
Mayo Medical School...4,000+ applicants, 34 MD slots, 6 MSTPS...do the math...purely on percentages this is the most difficult school in the nation...


I think you also have to look at the matriculation rate. So although Mayo Medical School may have only 40 slots total, they may have to accept 100 students to fill that spot, so it might not necessarily be the most selective, although there is some correlation.
 
snobored18 said:
Mayo Medical School...4,000+ applicants, 34 MD slots, 6 MSTPS...do the math...purely on percentages this is the most difficult school in the nation...


How about UC schools for out of staters? I don't have the numbers, but i think most of them have an even lower acceptance rate than mayo.

Though I suppose it's cheating to specify an applicant characteristic. In that case, I could say UVA for out of staters with a sub 3.0 GPA.

Ok, i'm going with Mayo then.

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For those uninitates, that was an oblique simpsons reference. Bonus points if you can tell me the episode and the hidden meaning. Now I'm really getting back to work.
 
med21 said:
I think you also have to look at the matriculation rate. So although Mayo Medical School may have only 40 slots total, they may have to accept 100 students to fill that spot, so it might not necessarily be the most selective, although there is some correlation.

Here is the best comparison I can provide...from the 2005 US NEWS full guide

MMS 65 accepted 44 enrolled... 67.6% accepted enroll Acceptance rate 2.7%
HMS 250 accepted 165 enrolled...66% accepted enroll Acceptance rate 4.7%

OK so based on your view mayo is still slightly more selective than HMS...but that approach is definitely flawed if you look at Arkansas's numbers

Arkansas 150 accepted 147 enrolled...98% accepted enroll Acceptance rate 22.8%

I think the percent of those accepted that enrolled is more of an indication of how well you weeded out those applicants that were more likely to choose another school over you...not so much how selective the institution is...I will stick to the fact the Mayo is the most selective and with good reason the money they spend on each student is insane...yeah number ****** like WashU have higher stats but Mayo is a completely different beast when it comes to admissions.
 
snobored18 said:
Here is the best comparison I can provide...from the 2005 US NEWS full guide

MMS 65 accepted 44 enrolled... 67.6% accepted enroll Acceptance rate 2.7%
HMS 250 accepted 165 enrolled...66% accepted enroll Acceptance rate 4.7%

OK so based on your view mayo is still slightly more selective than HMS...but that approach is definitely flawed if you look at Arkansas's numbers

Arkansas 150 accepted 147 enrolled...98% accepted enroll Acceptance rate 22.8%

I think the percent of those accepted that enrolled is more of an indication of how well you weeded out those applicants that were more likely to choose another school over you...not so much how selective the institution is...I will stick to the fact the Mayo is the most selective and with good reason the money they spend on each student is insane...yeah number ****** like WashU have higher stats but Mayo is a completely different beast when it comes to admissions.

I agree with everything you said. However, each school also attracts different types of applicants. The quality of applicants to Harvard, for example, will be very different from USC for example.
 
jbone said:
The University of Utah. Even difficult for instate kids. They like to brag that they are more difficult to get into than Harvard. 🙄

I think they take everyones app and pin it up on the wall. They then blind-fold someone and have them throw a dart at the wall. They do this 80 times and pick out their class. :laugh: :laugh:
That is about how logical their selections are.

Actually, they only accept the most beautiful people with the most rockin' bodies. 😀
 
Ghost said:
UT Houston is pretty hard. You need badges to get in just about every door. Security is very tight.

hahahaha
 
What exactly is the 'thing' about Mayo? I hear the name mentioned a lot here, and I've been to the website, but what makes a Mayo med school experience worth the difficulty of getting in? I'm quite curious about this.
 
BrettBatchelor said:
I'll go with UCD and any other school with 0% OOS acceptances.

We actually have 4-5 out of staters this year at UCD, so that 0% doesn't hold true anymore. The overall acceptance rate here last year was around 3%, so that's not too high either way.

I think UCI has no out of state students, so they might be a better choice.
 
dbhvt said:
For those uninitates, that was an oblique simpsons reference. Bonus points if you can tell me the episode and the hidden meaning. Now I'm really getting back to work.
Go crazy?
Don't mind if I do!

Rafa said:
What exactly is the 'thing' about Mayo? I hear the name mentioned a lot here, and I've been to the website, but what makes a Mayo med school experience worth the difficulty of getting in? I'm quite curious about this.
1. Small class size. HUGE faculty:student ratio. Only Cleveland Clinic (that I know of) has a similar set-up, but Cleveland is much newer and they have different educational foci.

2. Financial Aid. Guaranteed half-tuition at a minimum is nice.

3. It's more or less very unique. Related to #1, but worth reiterating. Can't really describe it, though, you'll have to go and see for yourself.
 
Jaider said:
Actually, they only accept the most beautiful people with the most rockin' bodies. 😀
So why haven't I been accepted yet? I'm hot... 🙁
(BTW, I go to the U, I know this isn't always true... :meanie: )
 
Here are a few of the acceptance rates of the top ranked schools.

Stanford 3.1
Duke 3.9
Cornell 4.3
Johns Hopkins 4.5
UCLA 4.5
Harvard 4.9
Penn 5.7
UCSD 6.0
U Wash 7.2
Baylor 7.3
Michigan 8.7
Wash U 10.6
Yale 11.3
Columbia 11.5
 
meshuggener said:
Here are a few of the acceptance rates of the top ranked schools.

Stanford 3.1
Duke 3.9
Cornell 4.3
Johns Hopkins 4.5
UCLA 4.5
Harvard 4.9
Penn 5.7
UCSD 6.0
U Wash 7.2
Baylor 7.3
Michigan 8.7
Wash U 10.6
Yale 11.3
Columbia 11.5

The Columbia rate is pre-AMCAS. I imagine it will be quite a bit lower for this year, as I imagine a lot more people applied through AMCAS.
 
meshuggener said:
Here are a few of the acceptance rates of the top ranked schools.

Stanford 3.1
Duke 3.9
Cornell 4.3
Johns Hopkins 4.5
UCLA 4.5
Harvard 4.9
Penn 5.7
UCSD 6.0
U Wash 7.2
Baylor 7.3
Michigan 8.7
Wash U 10.6
Yale 11.3
Columbia 11.5

it's hard to glean a lot from acceptance rates. applicants are self-selecting to a great number of schools (Tulane has an acceptance rate of 4.8%, and HMS 4.9%, but I don't think we would say that Tulane is more selective)--it seems like a better measure is mcat, gpa, acceptance rate, and matriculation rate.
 
Einsteinemc2 said:
it's hard to glean a lot from acceptance rates. applicants are self-selecting to a great number of schools.

Perhaps, but I suspect Harvard gets a disproportionate number of the pipe-dream hail mary variety of longshot apps. If you have middle numbers and want to apply to a bunch in your range and thenmaybe a longshot or two, that you have no realistic shot at other than luck, you may pick the H.
 
Uegis said:
We actually have 4-5 out of staters this year at UCD, so that 0% doesn't hold true anymore. The overall acceptance rate here last year was around 3%, so that's not too high either way.

I think UCI has no out of state students, so they might be a better choice.
Yeah I knew it was one of them. I just mixed the two up.
 
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