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Harvard dental??
Started by verooka1
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Harvard has a very nice program based on what I read on it. If you're dead set on becoming a general dentist or greatly value clinical experience then it may not be the best option for you.
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schmoob
Go to the cheapest school you get into.
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Here’s a pretty good post from another thread (I’m too lazy to type my take on HSDM right now):
I personally think Harvard has made great strides in recent years to become a well-rounded dental school for GP, while also remaining the top school for specializing.
I think the program is actually really good. They changed from 2 yrs med school, 2 yrs dental school to 1 yr med schoool, 3 yr dental school. (They changed the medical curriculum as well since med and dental are so intertwined there). It’s really cool the way their curriculum is set up: you focus on academics the first 2 years and then third year you really go hard at hand skills and rotations. D4 you do a 12 week externship in Boston which is longer than externships of many other dental schools. All students were aware that they started clinical training later than people at other schools. No one seemed concerned that they weren’t getting enough training in the end though. Any school you go to, it’s up to each student to get the sufficient training to prep you after 4 years. HSDM curriculum (despite some confusion on sdn) is really great, both academically and clinically.
I personally think Harvard has made great strides in recent years to become a well-rounded dental school for GP, while also remaining the top school for specializing.
You don't do anything dental related your first year (you're in medical school) and don't even pickup a hand-piece until second semester of your 2nd year. Some people might like that but I personally don't; if you're going to Harvard for general you're wasting your $$$$ imo.
Go to Harvard, match into oral surgery, and never worry about money again.
You mean I wasted all that money buying lottery tickets. Wish I had known this before. 🙂
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schmoob
It doesn't quite work like that. Here is what someone much smarter than me has to say on the matter:Go to Harvard, match into oral surgery, and never worry about money again.
Columbia Dental Grad + Harvard medical grad. fancy degrees but if you saw how much interest I accrue on my loans monthly you'd have diarrhea for a month at minimum. Go to the cheapest school. Don't second guess "well gee I what if I went to Columbia or Penn or one of those fancy Ivy leagues to help me specialize??" because there are smart kids at ivy/non-ivy and just as many if not more tools at ivy league schools.
Not worth IMO. Cheapest dental school = less loans = less interest = less diarrhea = more money to spend on non-underwear related expenses
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That’s an expensive route. Columbia is $50k more than Harvard for dental school & if it’s all about the money, just go to a 4-year OMFS program.It doesn't quite work like that. Here is what someone much smarter than me has to say on the matter:
According to...? According to the most authoritative source, me, the top 5 dental schools are:it’s top 5
1) The cheapest school you get into
2) The next cheapest school you get into
3) And the next cheapest school you get into
4) And the next, next cheapest school you get into
5) And the next, next, next cheapest school you get into
Big Hoss
What is the cheapest dental school?
NYUWhat is the cheapest dental school?
What is the cheapest dental school?
ECU in state and PR
False. Only Harvard produces oral surgeons.Or you could go to a state school for half the cost and still go to omfs?
I don't want to go too cheap... what's the second cheapest
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False. Only Harvard produces oral surgeons.
You are right. Every program waits patiently for a Harvard graduate to walk right on in. Everyone else gets in out of pity.
I'm disappointed it took you this long to realize that.You are right. Every program waits patiently for a Harvard graduate to walk right on in. Everyone else gets in out of pity.
I used to think going to an ivy was worth it, but I think I wasn't taking into account interest and future developments. The price you pay at harvard to try to find an easier way into a residency of any kind is always constant (or in fact likely rising by year). However, the future of any specialty is not a guarantee, nor would your interest in said specialty be. I have no exposure to any specialty other than shadowing a few times as a predental student, and things can change. If I suddenly realize that I love general dentistry the most after a few years of dental school, a 500k debt pointing at the back of my head would be a real shackle once I'm out in the real world. I'm going into research this summer in an area that's not related to my specialty at all under someone who isn't in omfs, so who knows how it could change my perception on things.
Class is so small and stats so hi, why even bother discussing?
If someone just wants to do a gpr, would grades and class rank be things to be worried about?I would honestly pay another $15k/year for a school that is true P/F and doesn’t rank, it’d make the next 4 years so much more enjoyable
If someone just wants to do a gpr, would grades and class rank be things to be worried about?
my school was pass/fail. i had no issues getting into GPR/AEGD.
If you go to a Pass/fail school you can just pass your classes and spend all the extra time honing in on your clinical skills to become a better GP (or use that extra time to network, study business, or something useful for a GD). If down the road you decide you want to specialize, your class rank and GPA won’t hold you back... because you wont have one!If someone just wants to do a gpr, would grades and class rank be things to be worried about?
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How does Harvard compare to USC? I know Harvard is cheaper by like 50k but in other aspects...?
USC is far better in every aspect except price and weather.
Edit: football as well
But for real. Depends what you are looking for. USC is probably better if your going for GP. You will have an easier time for residency with Harvard
USC is far better in every aspect except price and weather.
Edit: football as well
But for real. Depends what you are looking for. USC is probably better if your going for GP. You will have an easier time for residency with Harvard
Yeah I guess I just don’t know if I want to do GP or not
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If you don't know (which most people don't), then just go to a cheaper school. No reason in paying for Harvard tuition if you end up going into GP.Yeah I guess I just don’t know if I want to do GP or not
Yeah I guess I just don’t know if I want to do GP or not
That's tough one. Have you been accepted into these two schools?
What??? I've heard USC curriculum is terrible. I haven't heard of a single HSDM student complain about their curriculum (only complaints are from people who don't even go to harvard lol).USC is far better in every aspect except price and weather.
Edit: football as well
But for real. Depends what you are looking for. USC is probably better if your going for GP. You will have an easier time for residency with Harvard
Sorry was doing it sarcastically. Thought it came through with the weather and football commentWhat??? I've heard USC curriculum is terrible. I haven't heard of a single HSDM student complain about their curriculum (only complaints are from people who don't even go to harvard lol).
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Harvard would absolutely pound USC football like there was no tomorrowSorry was doing it sarcastically. Thought it came through with the weather and football comment
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Harvard would absolutely pound USC football like there was no tomorrow
no way dude. the only thing harvard can beat usc at is league of legends.
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Are you kidding me? USC and the rest of the Power 5 schools are lucky that the Ivy leagues arent FBS. The natural born 5-star NFL-bound athletes would have no shot against the 2-star talent poolno way dude. the only thing harvard can beat usc at is league of legends.
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As my colleagues who graduated Harvard always point out, The H opens many doors.
What are the career paths of those colleagues?As my colleagues who graduated Harvard always point out, The H opens many doors.
They all became billionaire philanthropists.What are the career paths of those colleagues?
Big Hoss
Are you kidding me? USC and the rest of the Power 5 schools are lucky that the Ivy leagues arent FBS. The natural born 5-star NFL-bound athletes would have no shot against the 2-star talent pool
They all became billionaire philanthropists.
Big Hoss
Lies. There is only one tony stark
That's tough one. Have you been accepted into these two schools?
Accepted to usc, just interviewed at Harvard
Deans, chairperson of departments, program directors. There are lots of other opportunities out there once you reach this level.What are the career paths of those colleagues?
Young doctors right out of school, less than 10 years, do not get these opportunities.
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