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Going to the Caribbean for medical school with the ultimate goal of practicing in the States is a huge gamble, and IMO, not worth it at all. If you're still considering Caribbean schools regardless, look only at the "Big 4": St. George's University, Ross University, American University of the Caribbean, and Saba University. Avoid everything else.
 
Just for curiosity's sake...

Are there residency programs in other countries that would be less competitive and allow someone to come back to the U.S. as an attending?
 
Caia said:
Are there residency programs in other countries that would be less competitive and allow someone to come back to the U.S. as an attending?
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Short answer: no
Long answer: noooooooooooooooooooo


For the most part, if you want to practice in the US, you need to do a US residency.
 
Doctor Bob said:
Short answer: no
Long answer: noooooooooooooooooooo


For the most part, if you want to practice in the US, you need to do a US residency.
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Interesting...I always thought there was more collaboration with Canada/Europe/Australia like there is in vet med.

I don't imagine the competitiveness varies a whole lot between those areas though.
 
Caia said:
Interesting...I always thought there was more collaboration with Canada/Europe/Australia like there is in vet med.

I don't imagine the competitiveness varies a whole lot between those areas though.
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Doctor Bob said:
Well, I'm not 100% sure about Canada...
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There are a number of threads exploring this question, although most are several years old. The search bar is your friend.

This site suggests that a Canadian physician who has taken the USMLE may practice in the United States with relative ease (by comparison to the difficulties of other countries). It would still be costly and difficult. I think the justification is that Canadian medical schools share some of our accreditation bodies.

http://medicalemployers.com/us-immigration-for-canadian-physicians/
(I skimmed this article)

I've only ever researched the reverse pathway....US --> Canada, Australia, wherever. In case anyone is interested, I'll share what I recall.

So far as I can tell, it is relatively easy in most specialties for a US physician to move to Canada. The exceptions are those specialties where Canadians have longer residencies than US counterparts (which I think applies to EM, and handful of others). My memory is fuzzy, but I think you either need to complete more residency or be supervised for a set period of time if Canadian specialists have a longer residency.

US --> Australia used to be possible if you're interested in rural primary care. I am not certain what the status of the program allowing this is under the current Australian government. The reverse is less true, so far as I know (they face the residency obstacle that many others do).

US --> pretty much anywhere else has significant difficulties. Unless you marry a EU citizen, in which case you may be able to practice there after a period of supervision (a year to a few years). You would first need to become a citizen of the EU.

If you learn to practice in the EU, then you can practice anywhere you can speak the language (to my understanding, which is poor) and find a job within the EU. However, entering EU medical schools mostly seems to require EU citizenship. I know there are a number of EU medical students who look through this board. Perhaps they could speak more to this.

I believe the UK, Australia, and New Zealand have good medical relationships (as in, doctors are fast tracked for licencing in each country).

That's pretty much all I know on the subject. I would highly suggest attending a United States medical school and residency if you intend to practice here.
 
Caia said:
Interesting...I always thought there was more collaboration with Canada/Europe/Australia like there is in vet med.

I don't imagine the competitiveness varies a whole lot between those areas though.
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Canada and the U.S. are interchangeable in the sense that if you complete an ACGME residency in Canada and are a US citizen, then you can practice in the US no problem (not sure about the reverse since Canada may be different). This isn't true for any other residency programs from any other country so idk where you got that the US is collaborative with the EU or Australia for medicine. You still have to pass the Steps and match in the US to practice here. Residency anywhere else (besides Canada) doesn't count for anything.

Also getting a spot in Canada is really competitive, so good luck.
 
darklabel said:
Canada and the U.S. are interchangeable in the sense that if you complete an ACGME residency in Canada and are a US citizen, then you can practice in the US no problem (not sure about the reverse since Canada may be different). This isn't true for any other residency programs from any other country so idk where you got that the US is collaborative with the EU or Australia for medicine. You still have to pass the Steps and match in the US to practice here. Residency anywhere else (besides Canada) doesn't count for anything.

Also getting a spot in Canada is really competitive, so good luck.
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Are you saying a Canadian physician who has dual citizenship (or has a US Green Card) can come here and apply for a physician license in most or all US states without taking the steps and going thru residency like other IMGs... Do they have ACGME accredited residency in Canada?
 
Meh.meh said:
There are a number of threads exploring this question, although most are several years old. The search bar is your friend.

This site suggests that a Canadian physician who has taken the USMLE may practice in the United States with relative ease (by comparison to the difficulties of other countries). It would still be costly and difficult. I think the justification is that Canadian medical schools share some of our accreditation bodies.

http://medicalemployers.com/us-immigration-for-canadian-physicians/
(I skimmed this article)

I've only ever researched the reverse pathway....US --> Canada, Australia, wherever. In case anyone is interested, I'll share what I recall.

So far as I can tell, it is relatively easy in most specialties for a US physician to move to Canada. The exceptions are those specialties where Canadians have longer residencies than US counterparts (which I think applies to EM, and handful of others). My memory is fuzzy, but I think you either need to complete more residency or be supervised for a set period of time if Canadian specialists have a longer residency.

US --> Australia used to be possible if you're interested in rural primary care. I am not certain what the status of the program allowing this is under the current Australian government. The reverse is less true, so far as I know (they face the residency obstacle that many others do).

US --> pretty much anywhere else has significant difficulties. Unless you marry a EU citizen, in which case you may be able to practice there after a period of supervision (a year to a few years). You would first need to become a citizen of the EU.

If you learn to practice in the EU, then you can practice anywhere you can speak the language (to my understanding, which is poor) and find a job within the EU. However, entering EU medical schools mostly seems to require EU citizenship. I know there are a number of EU medical students who look through this board. Perhaps they could speak more to this.

I believe the UK, Australia, and New Zealand have good medical relationships (as in, doctors are fast tracked for licencing in each country).

That's pretty much all I know on the subject. I would highly suggest attending a United States medical school and residency if you intend to practice here.
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darklabel said:
Canada and the U.S. are interchangeable in the sense that if you complete an ACGME residency in Canada and are a US citizen, then you can practice in the US no problem (not sure about the reverse since Canada may be different). This isn't true for any other residency programs from any other country so idk where you got that the US is collaborative with the EU or Australia for medicine. You still have to pass the Steps and match in the US to practice here. Residency anywhere else (besides Canada) doesn't count for anything.

Also getting a spot in Canada is really competitive, so good luck.
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Thanks guys, I appreciate your answers. I'm a vet student and was simply curious on how foreign residencies in human med worked in comparison to vet med. 🙂
 
Universidad autonoma de guadalajara, Mexico or UMHS? Im undecided!! Help me
 
Arodz said:
Universidad autonoma de guadalajara, Mexico or UMHS? Im undecided!! Help me
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Both are bad in terms of getting a residency in the United States. I guess Universidad Autonoma de Guadalajara might be cheaper though.
 
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DermViser said:
Both are bad in terms of getting a residency in the United States. I guess Universidad Autonoma de Guadalajara might be cheaper though.
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I from Puerto Rico, Mcat score was 22 and GPA 3.5
 
Arodz said:
Universidad autonoma de guadalajara, Mexico or UMHS? Im undecided!! Help me
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1) if you are not yet a medical student, please do not list your status as "medical student". This is fraudulent and against the SDN Terms of Service. Please change it to Pre-Med or another status which reflects the truth.

2) as mentioned above, the decision about where to attend medical school depends on your goals: if you wish to practice in the US, there are many more practitioners from UAG than UMHS. Neither is a great choice, but the former is more well known which says something.

3) being purposely vague about your background and goals is not helpful
 
Caia said:
Interesting...I always thought there was more collaboration with Canada/Europe/Australia like there is in vet med.

I don't imagine the competitiveness varies a whole lot between those areas though.
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We're cool with Canadians, they're LCME accredited. Everyone else is treated like a third class citizen, with DOs being second class bone wizards.
 
fancymylotus said:
I do enjoy the way that all the threads in allo have been deteriorating as of late :borg:
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It's because we're all too friendly with each other now. This is like our social media; we're crackin jokes and poking fun but good discussion is still here as well.
 
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