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Yes... another one of these threads

U of Wisc
U of Chicago
Indiana U
Vanderbilt
UTSW
UPMC
UVA
U of Maryland
Wake Forest
Jefferson

My preferences:
-I think I want to end up on the west coast
-The exact location and the quality of life in the specific city is the least important factor to me. I can survive anywhere for 4-5 years.
-I Probably want to do academic
-I want to have a strong clinical training - volume, case diversity, independent call, procedures...

I am sorry that I cannot really recall all the details about each of these programs. They sort of all blend together at this point... If anyone who has personal experience with any of these programs can comment, that would be super helpful!!!
 
I have only interviewed at UPMC, UMD, Wake, and Jeff. I am also a med student at one of these places.

Based on reputation (Doximity) Jeff > Wake > UPMC > UMD, but from my interviewing experience I will be ranking them UPMC>Jeff>UMD>Wake.

Jeff: happiness seemed to be on par with UMD, which prides itself on their collegial atmosphere, which is the only place that has been able to actually show that among its residents and faculty. Training is great and volumes are very high. Anything MRI you will get great experience, since they have 20+ scanners working 24/7, and their MSK is very strong. There's a definite lack of trauma, as most trauma in Philly goes north to Drexel or Temple. Peds is more than sufficient but you must travel to Delaware for DuPont during that rotation. Call was kind of overlooked at my interview day, and moonlighting is available but not frequent. Location is pretty amazing in Center City, and you can live very well on a decent budget. Program had very few perks outside of the standard AIRP, etc, and salary is on lower end. There is research, and they acquired a PETMRI and new PHD to do research with it, but Jeff is known for clinical > research. Didn't ask about jobs afterward.
UPMC: residents seemed to be happy but less aware of each other than at other programs, so unsure of how they got along as a group (also relatively large program at 11-12 spots/yr). Big drawbacks are needing to drive everywhere in Pittsburgh (transit is ok, and biking is possible but no one seemed to do it), and there are multiple hospitals you'll be rotating at. Their peds hospital is basically brand new and you're the only residents there, so residents enjoyed being the point of care for patients there. Volume is absurd, something like 2.4m studies / yr, and accordingly, moonlighting is absurd. Residents were saying there is more than enough to go around, and multiple residents made north of 120k/yr in residency. They didn't feel like any departments were weak, and there are few fellows. Definitely opportunities for research and involvement with GE, Google if you seek them out. Pittsburgh is hit or miss, I feel like residents loved it or hated it. It can be pretty isolating, as it's a 5hour drive from Philly or other more populated cities.
UMD: happiest residents and faculty by far. Everyone was happy to be there, proud of their job and institution. But make no mistake, it is in Baltimore. City is very cheap, and has nice amenities, but it's not always safe going between then. As a result, trauma training is incredible. Peds does suffer, as most peds goes to Hopkins. Residents also complained there's a lack of MSK MRI, although they're working to improve that. Other than that, seemed a decent program with decent volume and good fellowship matches. There is also some very interesting research going on with molecular imaging and using that as part of therapies (they show this off at interview day), so it is very easy to find projects if you're interesting, but it is not a focus. I didn't specifically ask about jobs after training, so I'm not sure about academic vs clinical.
Wake: program and location surprised me, but it definitely is out of the way. The town is your average small-middle-sized city with some revitalization going on, so there are amenities but it is far less than even Philly or Pittsburgh. The program has a nice geographic area from which it pulls and as a result there is a high volume and high variation in pathology. Residents and faculty didn't lie that it is a working residency, and it shows in job placement. They say residents frequently get into jobs where they want, and even filled 2 spots in Denver last year where there were only 2 jobs open in the whole city. On the other hand, they were decently vague about research, and residents willing to talk about it talked more about IT and business ends of things rather than clinical or basic research. Seems from that that many go into private practice rather than academics, although they are very involved with students.

I feel like getting into academics on the west coast will come down to connections and your fellowship, so go somewhere with strong training and strong matches to west coast programs.
 
I can talk about uchicago and Indiana. I would probably rank Indiana higher if you were only concerned about the quality of training, and not quality of living.

University of Chicago
Location in the south part of Chicago, which is less than ideal. It seemed that all residents lived near downtown Chicago and commuted. They claimed the commute was 15-20 minutes by car. This also facilitated their commute to Northshore hospital up in Evanston, which would be very far from where UChicago is. Call is independent at Mitchell (main campus) but there is 24 hour attending coverage at Northshore. So you get a mixed experience on call. Patients at the main campus tend to be from the poor demographic and there are more tertiary referral cases. At Northshore patients are rich and cases tend to be more bread and butter. The facilities on the main campus are really nice, especially the new center for care and discovery. I did not visit the Northshore hospital. I think the residents currently don’t have a level 1 trauma center experience although there are talks about Chicago’s south side getting 1 back, which would most likely go to U Chicago. The program is midsize with about 40 faculty members and 8 residents per year. I got the impression that research opportunities are there if you really look for them. However most of the residents seemed like they were doing the bare minimum required research.

Indiana University
Indianapolis, while a major city with close to 2 milion people in the metro area, sorely lacks in diversity when compared to Chicago. However IU is the only major academic medical center in the state, so this gives them a huge referral base. Two level 1 trauma centers, I think. Residents rotate through the IU health system hospitals (including a children’s hospital), a county hospital (a very nice looking new one), and a VA. Hospitals are all close to each other and some are connected by a monorail system. A huge department with 100+ faculty and 13 residents per year. Research is always hard to gauge, but I got the feeling that there is plenty opportunities for clinical research.
 
I'm ranking these as follows: UPMC, Jefferson, UTSW, Indiana, Maryland, Vanderbilt, Wake.

I'm not necessarily trying to end up on the West Coast, but I wanted to go somewhere that leaves my national options the most open. I'm a little more oriented to private practice so my list reflects that.

UPMC seemed to have the strongest clinical training of any of the programs I interviewed at and their residents seem to get rewarded with fellowships/jobs around the country which was really important to me. Some of their recent residents are starting at top academic centers across the country, if that's your thing. Their moonlighting opportunities are also amazing, which combined with the relatively low COL, was certainly a plus. I don't understand why this program doesn't get more attention on sdn/AM. I'm certainly ranking it higher than other top 'research institutions.'

Would probably have ranked UTSW higher if I was academic minded, but I'm not super into research.

Really liked the people and leadership at Vanderbilt and their leadership curriculum seemed to translate well into the private practice opportunities I would later seek. Was a little unsold on Nashville though - seemed like a great place to visit, but felt a little 1 dimensional and I dont know if I would like living there for 4 years.

I have a few others mixed in there as well.
 
I interviewed at UTSW, Vanderbilt, UVA, and Jefferson. I suggest UTSW, as it is the closest to the west coast, has the new Mattrey experience (+1 year research track) for those interested in academics or the half-day/wk scholars track for regular track residents who want to do some research, and has a PD who will vehemently protect the independent call experience. The direction and trajectory that Rofsky is taking the department is exciting. It has everything you want. My only reservation is that the new university hospital seemed kind of empty on my tour (chest reading room had no residents, halls had no patients, no procedures going on in the IR suites at 2pm), but Parkland should hopefully be better.
 
Are there any current/former UVA, Vanderbilt, Wake, or UMD residents on this board that can answer questions?
 
I liked UMD. Happy people overall with solid training. Baltimore city isn't that cheap. Living in downtown Baltimore will cost you around $1500 for a 1 bedroom apt, although things get cheaper the farther out you go. Rent can get pricier in the nicer areas of Fells Point and Canton.
 
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