hi I am from North Carolina, and unfortunately have not heard back from my state school. I was blessed to have been accepted to USC and now, I just received an interview invite from NYU. I have read the previous post about these schools but I really want to go to the place where I have the greatest chance to specialize. What is your opinion? thx
Help! NYU vs USC
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Youre accepted at USC and just got an interview invite for NYU... Dont know what to say other than dont count your eggs before they hatch. Put your deposit down for USC, as youre not guaranteed an acceptance from NYU.
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It's a no brainer....... nah but both schools IMO have an equal chance to benefit you in specialization.
Ah ok, you should attend your NYU interview. If you do get in and have to make a choice, Id say go to NYU mainly because NYU tuition is about 10k less per year than USC. As for specializing Im not sure, but I suspect NYU may be better in that regard.
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Which would you rather attend? Do you have any interest in NYU? Regardless, I would attend the interview.
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"Help!" sounds like something you might be saying after graduating from either of these schools 😉. Seriously though, have you considered taking this year to boost your app and re-apply to UNC. It's a great school and probably close to half the cost of USC or NYU...
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my take on the situation is to go to the NYU interview. who knows, you might not even like the school..or get in for that matter.
in the event that you do like it, and you are eventually accepted i say go where you are the most comfortable. 10K less a year is 'whatever' to be honest--NYC is more expensive to live in than LA...so financially i'd say it's pretty negligible. although, usc might be slightly more bc you need a car to navigate around socal..you don't have the luxury of public transportation. but i still think it'll be pretty even, cost wise.
clinically NYU is pretty on point. the amount of patients one gets is pretty substantial....arguably the most in the country. i have heard, however, that in recent years USC has become a very good school clinically as well. in terms of learning styles-both schools are completely different..traditional vs. pbl; class size wise, nyu is probably double or triple the size. so you need to decide after you interview, and if you get accepted if it's right for you. me personally--i would have gone to usc without even thinking twice.
and specializing...well, you know the thought of it is nice, but that's really not something you should consider until after your first year at least. always go into dental school with the mindset that you will be a general dentist. not trying to be a debbie downer, but that's how you should look at it until you've gone through dental school. both schools will get you into specialties though.
final words: 'you've struck copper'--i would say gold, but you've potentially gotten into the 2 most expensive schools in the country. not to discount your accomplishments though--heck i couldn't even get an interview at USC. congrats on your achievements thus far, and gl with whatever you choose!
in the event that you do like it, and you are eventually accepted i say go where you are the most comfortable. 10K less a year is 'whatever' to be honest--NYC is more expensive to live in than LA...so financially i'd say it's pretty negligible. although, usc might be slightly more bc you need a car to navigate around socal..you don't have the luxury of public transportation. but i still think it'll be pretty even, cost wise.
clinically NYU is pretty on point. the amount of patients one gets is pretty substantial....arguably the most in the country. i have heard, however, that in recent years USC has become a very good school clinically as well. in terms of learning styles-both schools are completely different..traditional vs. pbl; class size wise, nyu is probably double or triple the size. so you need to decide after you interview, and if you get accepted if it's right for you. me personally--i would have gone to usc without even thinking twice.
and specializing...well, you know the thought of it is nice, but that's really not something you should consider until after your first year at least. always go into dental school with the mindset that you will be a general dentist. not trying to be a debbie downer, but that's how you should look at it until you've gone through dental school. both schools will get you into specialties though.
final words: 'you've struck copper'--i would say gold, but you've potentially gotten into the 2 most expensive schools in the country. not to discount your accomplishments though--heck i couldn't even get an interview at USC. congrats on your achievements thus far, and gl with whatever you choose!
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It concerns me that people are suggesting that going to NYU/USC isn't worth becoming a dentist. I am choosing to go to NYU over 3 other cheaper options because it is a better fit for me when I consider all other factors. I completely understand when people choose the cheapest option (it's a good financial/business decision), but to say that you should deny an acceptance and try again next year is preposterous.
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It really isn't... $500k for a dental degree is preposterous.
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So your two options are either to go to a relatively inexpensive school or choose another career?
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That's not an easy question to answer. There are many variables, but options (IMO) for the average student who will end up as an average earning general dentist are-- go to a reasonably priced school, have someone else foot the bill (HPSP, NHSC, IHS, etc), or go to the expensive school but understand the full ramifications. Paying off that kind of debt is going to be a serious struggle for a LONG time, at some point it just isn't worth it. This can be said for any profession, there is always a financial breaking point. Plug in your expected loan into a loan calculator and look at the monthly payback. Also, i wouldn't depend on the IBR/PAYE for loan forgiveness. Most practicing dentists (look around at dental town) say that $250-300k is the MAXIMUM amount of loans one should take out for dental school. Now there will be always the top x% that absolutely kill it and $500k will be no problem, but chances are this will not be you (rhetorically speaking).
Summary: I would rather spend an extra year boosting my app and pay ~$250k less for dental school. It makes everything way easier in the future.
PS I am not trying to personally discourage you rendal, I am just explaining my opinion. Congrats on your acceptance to NYU.
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I'm not taking it as a personal attack, I chose NYU after considering all of the factors that were important to me and I consider it my best option.
I just don't agree that it's a good idea to take the extra year and apply again to the state school. If he/she applies again without the guarantee that they can push the acceptance back a year, then it is extremely risky in my opinion. I personally would not a gamble a dental school acceptance.
I do agree with you when it comes to finances. When choosing a school like NYU or USC then you need to be aware of what you're getting into and be prepared to live humbly for a while during and after dental school to minimize debt and pay it off faster. It just depends on the person, and I guess that it wouldn't be worth it to some people; I just don't agree with that.
Everyone complains about going to NYU because of the expense, I myself would love to attend NYU because I feel it is a great school with numerous opportunities for anything I can think of. 360 students a year are choosing to go to this school and pay their tuition and living expenses, and I think people need to take that into consideration when choosing a school rather than listening to what everyone else has to say. If you really want to hear what it's like, seek out a recent graduate and talk to them about it. There are other schools that are just as expensive, if not more expensive, than NYU. You need to weigh the pros and cons of each school and see which would be a better fit for you. The residents I've spoken to have had no issues paying off their NYU loans.
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you don't truly know what's the 'best fit for you' because really, any school can put up a front when you interview. that's why it's always best to go with the cheapest option. i mean clearly you've made your decision, but.....eh... nvm it's not even worth getting into at this point
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what kind of residents were you talking to? if you talked to them at nyu, they for sure weren't gpr/aegd residents because nyu doesn't have that program. so if you were talking to an endo, perio, ortho resident, of course they're gonna tell you that they don't have issues.
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go on dentaltown and/or talk to any dentist in your area if you need more justification. they'll probably tell you the same. this shouldn't be a shocker to anyone really
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I'm very surprised you've heard from these schools but not ECU or UNC. I Was lucky enough to interview at both! I guess it just shows how hard it is to get into schools these days! Either way, follow your heart! Worry about that decision when you have to make it, and not a second before then.
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Loan repayment is deferred in residency.... So yeah of course residents don't have a problem.
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lol but i mean realistically...are you really going to take loan repayment advice from someone who is going to be an orthodontist? i mean come on
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I don't think a lot of the people in this thread are going to see eye to eye with me so I'll just go ahead and say that I realized that this thread has completely moved away from OP's original question so I'll answer it:
Go to the NYU interview IF you actually see yourself attending there instead of USC. I wouldn't waste the plane/cab/hotel money if you would go to USC anyway.
Go to the NYU interview IF you actually see yourself attending there instead of USC. I wouldn't waste the plane/cab/hotel money if you would go to USC anyway.
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i'm just curious though, what cheaper school(s) did you turn down for nyu? any of em your state school?
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No, not a state school. I'm a Florida resident and I got into NYU, BU, Marquette, and Nova.
Edit: I guess nova would have equated to almost a state public school since I live close, but there are no guarantees with that because my family is likely moving out of Florida.
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There were 2 GPR residents in a hospital clinic residency, both already paying back loans, plus rent and car payments, etc. if you want to come out of school making 6 figures and living an extravagant life, yeah don't go to NYU. But if you want to get a good education and feel like NYU is the place to do so, hundreds (if not thousands) of people will be paying just as much for their dental education throughout the US. You'll be able to pay back your loans, if you couldn't then people wouldn't be choosing these schools year after year. Just my opinion.
