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congrats mackaikai, that is UC irvine right? Do you know how academic is their program?
 
Hello all, I was hoping to get opinions on my small problem.

I am extremely interested in the Staten Island Univ program and was wondering if they had given interviews.

I emailed the program coordinator on Monday, but she has not responded yet. How long should I wait before trying to contact her again?

Thanks
 
Aspiring HemOnc said:
Hello all, I was hoping to get opinions on my small problem.

I am extremely interested in the Staten Island Univ program and was wondering if they had given interviews.

I emailed the program coordinator on Monday, but she has not responded yet. How long should I wait before trying to contact her again?

Thanks
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This of course is only my opinion but I would wait at least 3-4 weeks. It seems they have not started to IV yet and that means they are reviewing their applicants. You have sent a message that you are particularly interested in their program and they now have that information. I wouldn't expect a personalized reply. What's most important is that they know you are interested.
 
still didn't hear anything back from John Hopkins and Cleveland. What are they doing??????????????????:scared:😕😱
 
oncldoc said:
ANybody from community based residency programs getting interviews?? Because looks like where you did your residency , community vs univ is cinching the screening process. Atleast that is what I have heard from current fellows
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im at strictly community. 9 interviews.
 
MIhemeonc said:
im at strictly community. 9 interviews.
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I'm at a community hospital as well. 4 interviews out of 6 of my top pics. I thought it would effect me as well but other than strong research based programs it hasn't seemed to be a big negative.
 
first time here and would like to share some info with you.

received iv from
Wash U
U. Washington
cleveland clinic
M.D Anderson
U.F
UCSD
U. Iowa (might not go)
U. Colorado (might not go)
Tufts (already went)
U. Michigan (already went)
Emory
UPMC
Yale
U Arizona
U. Utah (might not go)
 
rejection from Mayo Clinic Arizona 1 hour ago 🙁
 
I was interviewed there already and like the program very much. From US news, it is not even on the ranking. Any one know why it is not ranked by US news?
 
Anyone else out there that has not heard from programs that have sent out rejections and interview offers. For example havent heard from programs like Mayo even though they have already sent out rejections and iv offers. What does this mean? Gutonc? Anyone willing to share? A rejection seems better than uncertainty.
 
onc2b said:
This of course is only my opinion but I would wait at least 3-4 weeks. It seems they have not started to IV yet and that means they are reviewing their applicants. You have sent a message that you are particularly interested in their program and they now have that information. I wouldn't expect a personalized reply. What's most important is that they know you are interested.
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Thanks onc2b.

@Tedebear: I too have not heard from many programs (neither IVs and rejections). This week I called/emailed some programs and only two told me they were still reviewing applications. Several have not responded to my email, while 1 said...."we are finished giving out interview offers".

What a dilemma!
 
interview Roswell PArk today, Rejection Mayo Scottsdale.
 
Thanks for the reply Aspiring. I know there are programs that send out interviews only i.e. no rejections. But I am specifically talking about programs that have sent out interviews and rejections. Are they just holding onto our applications? Why not just reject everyone that did not receive interviews or not send out any rejections? For example if Mayo did not reject others and sent out interviews it would be easy to deduce that I was rejected. But by not sending out an interview nor a rejection (when others have been rejected from that specific program is killing me via the chinese water torture.
 
Tedebear said:
Thanks for the reply Aspiring. I know there are programs that send out interviews only i.e. no rejections. But I am specifically talking about programs that have sent out interviews and rejections. Are they just holding onto our applications? Why not just reject everyone that did not receive interviews or not send out any rejections? For example if Mayo did not reject others and sent out interviews it would be easy to deduce that I was rejected. But by not sending out an interview nor a rejection (when others have been rejected from that specific program is killing me via the chinese water torture.
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My bad, I misunderstood you.

I too have applied to some programs that have given IVs and rejections. My theory is that we are on a "waiting list" or holding pattern. Meaning, a program wants to interview an XX number of applicants and they send out those right away. Once they get declines for IVs, they come in and look at the "waiting list" and give out IVs from that.

Like I said, just a theory.

Which programs do you know of that have given both IVs and Rej? For me, just off the top of my head, U of Florida and Iowa come to mind.
 
gutonc said:
That's just crazy-talk. That program is better than about half of the programs on your list. The Huntsman is phenomenal. I still regret not interviewing there.

Not going there is nuts.
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my wife's decision..
 
gutonc said:
But Cleveland?! And Houston?!?! Your wife is insane too.
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What can I say? She cannot picture herself living in Salt Lake City. Hopefully I can get into M.D. Anderson, which is ranked the best cancer hosptial in U.S. News this year.
 
If one is in a "waiting list" is it really worth going since you didnt make the cut? Sure the programs get more interviewees as a luxury. But lets face it from an applicants point of view there are flights, hotel, rental car/or taxi. You are talking anywhere between $400 to $700 to go. Wait list status seems to me an uphill climb. Possible but highly unlikely. What do you guys think about wait status? Since you are not on equal status is financial burden worth it?
 
NaughtyGirl said:
If one is in a "waiting list" is it really worth going since you didnt make the cut? Sure the programs get more interviewees as a luxury. But lets face it from an applicants point of view there are flights, hotel, rental car/or taxi. You are talking anywhere between $400 to $700 to go. Wait list status seems to me an uphill climb. Possible but highly unlikely. What do you guys think about wait status? Since you are not on equal status is financial burden worth it?
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Waitlist or no waitlist, you got your foot in the door, i would say take your opportunity. It's the interview that can make or brake you. The application is just a screening process. The interview tells them if they want to work with you. I vote go on the interview.

Now if you got rejected and then they retracted... I wouldn't go to that interview.
 
NaughtyGirl said:
If one is in a "waiting list" is it really worth going since you didnt make the cut? Sure the programs get more interviewees as a luxury. But lets face it from an applicants point of view there are flights, hotel, rental car/or taxi. You are talking anywhere between $400 to $700 to go. Wait list status seems to me an uphill climb. Possible but highly unlikely. What do you guys think about wait status? Since you are not on equal status is financial burden worth it?
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I agree with you. Knowing that I was wait listed may affect the way I interview at a program. I would go only if the program is very good and is pretty close to were I live.
 
pillu said:
I agree with you. Knowing that I was wait listed may affect the way I interview at a program. I would go only if the program is very good and is pretty close to were I live.
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I agree with you all about being concerned about getting an IV this way, but another perspective is that "beggers can't be choosers". I am "begging" for more IVs as I do not have as strong credentials as others on this board. I would go even if it would just increase my chances by small percentage points.

I already have >$150,000 in med school loans....what is $2-3000 more for 5-6 more IVs.
 
Any thoughts on Wake, UPMC and U Maryland? Can likely only go on 2 of 3. Location not as important when comparing those 3.
 
Tedebear said:
Anyone else out there that has not heard from programs that have sent out rejections and interview offers. For example havent heard from programs like Mayo even though they have already sent out rejections and iv offers. What does this mean? Gutonc? Anyone willing to share? A rejection seems better than uncertainty.
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I'm not sure about that particular scenario especially since all the programs I applied to are not represented on this forum. For example, Scripps Green, UCLA Harbor, UCLA Olive-view are programs that I have not heard other say they have gotten rejected or invited for an interview.

Of note, this may have been stated already, but UC Davis is done sending out interviews. they have so many applicant they do not send out rejections. USC does have a waiting list what they call "Tier II".

I agree with some of the comments from others in regards to cost. It is psychologically tough not to mention expensive to go to these programs when you know you will be lower on their rank list. I would imagine however that if they are inviting you it is because they will rank you even if its low on their list. I could also imagine the other scenario where they don't I try not to think about it too much though because it can start to really mess with your head. If you have the money why not go as it may mean ultimately a spot. Now if it's a place where you would not even rank them to begin with then for goodness sake don't go.
 
I think it depends on the situation. For me, I only have one interview so I would go. But if I already had 8 interviews I would pass. Look at the previous Heme Onc application threads most people match in their top three. Of course you could fall dramatically on match day but most of us have insight to know if our personality is a liability on interview day. So I say it depends on number of current interviews and insight into ones personality.
 
I would go Wake and Maryland. If you read previous hemeonc threads there were concerns about UPMC. Do a search on this site.
Hemeoncbound said:
Any thoughts on Wake, UPMC and U Maryland? Can likely only go on 2 of 3. Location not as important when comparing those 3.
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Disclaimer I applied to all 3 with no offers. Only offer is from MCG.
 
onc2b said:
The application is just a screening process. The interview tells them if they want to work with you.
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I thought the program has some idea of which candiates will be ranked prior to interview itself and it is not just a screening process. Interview may push you up or down a little bit on the rank list. This is just my assumption.

May be GutOnc or other experienced person can give us some insight.

BTW, how to tell if the interview went well? Any signs or signals to look for?
 
pillu said:
BTW, how to tell if the interview went well? Any signs or signals to look for?
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I think you'll have to wait for the match to get a sincere answer. 🙂
 
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rejections Duke and Virginia commenwealth! Interview University of Rochester
 
I have a question, I have quite a few interviews now...I am truly interested in academics and see myself doing translational research. Apart from MDACC , MSKCC and the likes how do I find out whether a place will prepare me to be a good academician? ...it is really hard to tease out which program is better than others in this respect. Any advice would be truly appreciated.
 
threecoins said:
I have a question, I have quite a few interviews now...I am truly interested in academics and see myself doing translational research. Apart from MDACC , MSKCC and the likes how do I find out whether a place will prepare me to be a good academician? ...it is really hard to tease out which program is better than others in this respect. Any advice would be truly appreciated.
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Good question. I've asked myself the same thing when thinking about the programs. I've heard from faculty that it can be quite difficult to establish yourself with your own lab. I was on elective at NHLBI the hematology branch where I and some of the fellows got the chance to have lunch with a guest lecturer from Dana-Farber. He spoke more on the side of once you got the job how to be successful. What I gathered from his advice was that it is quite difficult and that it helps to associate yourself with an experience faculty member even mentioning to have your lab close to theirs.

Not all the programs have this, but some like Stanford list their fellows and where they end up going. I look to see how many of them go on to faculty positions. If that data is not available you can also ask on your interview day. Honestly, though if it is at a major research institution it seems to be 80% research, 15% industry, 5% clinical. I completely made up those numbers, but it speaks to the trend at least from what I've heard from fellows at their respective institutions.
 
Thanks ImmunOnc, I am not sure I want to do just basic science, I want to do translational not sure more of basic translational or clinical translational ...I find the percentage of grads going into academics helpful as an indicator but it varies year to year even with top academic institution and I am nots ure what is a good benchmark? 50 % 25 %








ImmunOnc said:
Good question. I've asked myself the same thing when thinking about the programs. I've heard from faculty that it can be quite difficult to establish yourself with your own lab. I was on elective at NHLBI the hematology branch where I and some of the fellows got the chance to have lunch with a guest lecturer from Dana-Farber. He spoke more on the side of once you got the job how to be successful. What I gathered from his advice was that it is quite difficult and that it helps to associate yourself with an experience faculty member even mentioning to have your lab close to theirs.

Not all the programs have this, but some like Stanford list their fellows and where they end up going. I look to see how many of them go on to faculty positions. If that data is not available you can also ask on your interview day. Honestly, though if it is at a major research institution it seems to be 80% research, 15% industry, 5% clinical. I completely made up those numbers, but it speaks to the trend at least from what I've heard from fellows at their respective institutions.
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Anyone has any idea about the strengths and weaknesses of USC?
 
I heard it is weak on research opportunities for fellows!
 
threecoins, you seem to have a strong interest in translational. if you dont mind me asking how did you come up with a strong interest? Did you do lot a lot of research in residency? the reason i ask is most applicants i have met have posters and case reports.
 
I am doing some research now on circulating tumor cells, wrote a couple of grants got one of them actually funded for 20 K, I do not have a lot of experience but I definitely have an interest and I think I know what I want to do. Not sure if this answers your question.
 
Interviews from Indiana, VCU and SLU last week. I guess the interviews are still trickling in...
 
Interview MUSC , does anyone know how academic is their program?
 
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