Heme/Onc Application 2009-2010

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Dartmouth sent out an email stating they had received applications and were still reviewing them as of yesterday.
 
jdsam49 said:
well guys anyone in the same boat? I have no interviews so far.?
🙁
not even rejection either, altough applied really late.
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No interviews
One rejection
🙁
Upgraded my pills from pepcid to prevacid and it is working well for acute onset IBS 😀
 
Just received their rejection and again Emory sent the group emails.👎
 
If they are sending rejections like this, then who are they inviting for IV's?
Is it that they have more of their own candidates this year. I don't know what else can you do to convince PD's...

This is too much now.................................😡
 
Just joined the forum today. Congratulations to all who have IVs! I on the other hand have no IVs, no rejections and am going insane😕
 
hi all,
I joined the forum today....
no IVs today...only group mail by emory....
2 rejections a week ago....
I think...the application review is going very slow....!!!😴
 
Got the rejection from U of Minny-soda the other day......but its -34 there this week so not the worst news ever!!!!!
 
Man..today seems to be a bad day for a lot of people here!
BTW, I am starting to wonder how Jean (PC at Emory) would react if some one actually "CONTACT HER DIRECTLY VIA EMAIL OR TELEPHONE" after 5 times of warning.
Will any one try and let me know her reaction?
 
Slow but steady, my friends. Based on last year's thread, the majority of the interview offers seem to come in late January/early February. Remember that you've applied to a lot of programs and you've heard from relatively few of them (good or bad).

I've had a few IV invites, but out of 20 programs have only heard from 4 so far. Keep the faith -- THEY WILL COME! :luck:
 
So happy, at least Emory sent me the generic email, because so far I had No messages in my inbox.
still ZERO IV
Zero rejections
applied last week of dec
my PD letter just arrived to ERAS....
so all I have to do is
PRAY............
good luck guys, keep this tread alive!
 
Wow, Emory really really wants us to know theyre reviewing applications now
 
is it true the oncology will go down with the new health care
 
Will go to their interview soon. Who knows anything about this program by any chance?
 
Invites from UPenn and UCSF this week. For those of you who are still waiting, hang in there. Most programs are probably just beginning to review their applications.
 
UFlorida yesterday...
agree that next week it should start to heat up, after all the staff of the programs get back up and running after the new year (still have a bowl game tonight afterall...).
also, i assume emory intended to send us each only one email after receiving our app and this is a glitch in their system, but maybe jean really does have a problem w/inquiries - bit rude tho if it was intentional this many times... in that case - somebody please call and chat her up!!!
 
Interview from Tufts through ERAS, and rejection from Fox Chase.
3 interviews total now
 
hello all. new to thread. thanks for posting, for the info. so far, interviews from beth israel deaconess, dana farber, northwestern, upenn, and ucsf. :xf:
 
From University of Florida.
4 interviews until now.
 
So no rejections, no interviews.. applied before Dec 1... what could that possibly mean?
 
From University of Iowa
It's getting heated up now.
Five total.
 
IMG, average USMLE scores, great letters of recommendation, blood banking fellowship, lots of case reports and act presentation, no publication but multiple research involvement..J visa.... third year resident

How does it look?

which part of the application carries more weight...
 
I think it depends on what kind of program they are. If the program is more academic, they would like to have people with research background, and with greencard so that the fellows can apply for NIH grants. If the program is more clinical oriented, they like people who are from good residency program, and maybe high USMLE scores.
Just my 2 cents.
I am an IMG with PhD in Molecular and Cellular Biology, did research on breast cancer, has 5 papers in so-so journals and one poster. Average USMLE score, average residency program, good letters from PhD mentor and oncology attending. Green card. Graduated from med school in 2000.


Plasma412 said:
what do you think they are looking for generally?
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And I am PGY-2 now, forgot to mention.

tutu said:
I think it depends on what kind of program they are. If the program is more academic, they would like to have people with research background, and with greencard so that the fellows can apply for NIH grants. If the program is more clinical oriented, they like people who are from good residency program, and maybe high USMLE scores.
Just my 2 cents.
I am an IMG with PhD in Molecular and Cellular Biology, did research on breast cancer, has 5 papers in so-so journals and one poster. Average USMLE score, average residency program, good letters from PhD mentor and oncology attending. Green card. Graduated from med school in 2000.
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old grad, PGY 2, average program, step 1 and 2 in low 90's, very low step 3 score (passed), phd in molecular biology, postdoc research in cancer biology, several publications and abstracts, 1 ACP abstract on a cancer case, 1 case report submitted, GC waiting for 485 approval, now H1, not sure if PD and chairman LORs are strong or tepid, applied before Dec, 1 rej, no iv, very anxious, what do you guys think?
 
no iv from UCSF, UMich, no rej from Foxchase, Minnesota, Northwestern either, is that weird?
 
South Col said:
no iv from UCSF, UMich, no rej from Foxchase, Minnesota, Northwestern either, is that weird?
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I'm not one to give advice re: someone's "chances," as my prior experience w/ this whole process has shown me that the cliche is quite true, "the match is random." I've seen research/publications beat out institutional reputation/clinical skills and vice versa.

What I wanted to emphasize (and remind myself as well) is that while not hearing from a program (IV or rejection) is quite nerve racking, it simply means that you're still in the game. I firmly believe that there's a round of first draft picks as well as 2nd and 3rd rounds. So if you haven't heard back from a program yet, but know that they've already sent out rejections to others...hang in there :luck:

Personally, I know I'm not too proud to accept a 3rd string IV if offered. 😛
 
I really don't know what really helps to get a fellowship spot. I had applied 2 years before and didn't match. I was told to beef up my resume before I re-apply.

Now, despite MPH with clinical research, 7 publications, numerous abstracts and oral presentation and awards, strong LoR's and no need for visa; still finding it very tough. The only other thing I can do now is to get a PhD..... or look for contacts.... I don't know what works....

Sorry guys just a little tired of facing the same all over again...🙁
 
i fully agree w/midwestmd - if you havent heard either yay or nay from a program, but see that iv invitations have been extended to others, you have been second-tiered... this is the case w/several programs i applied to - i obviously will take this into account if it gets near the end of the iv season and i feel good about another program/have completed many iv's already, and finally get an iv from these programs - would it be worth the hassle of arranging coverage/travel if you know you are already a second-stringer? depends upon how much you have your heart set on the program i guess.... thats why i think its great that everyones posting there info here - keep it up!
i have uiowa to add as well - iv dates feb 12, mar 5, and april 2.
also stemcell and others in a similiar plight - i feel for ya... hang in there we truly havent seen the heart of the iv invitation period yet. i think we are just starting to see an upswing now, with the majority to come in the next couple weeks...
 
in some ways, i do think the whole process is random. i read some of what you guys have posted and it is super impressive to me. i personally feel that i dont match up as well as some of you guys - but i have received a few interviews. i am sure that you guys will get interviews - i hear most nyc programs dont get started until the end of this month, and most other programs and just starting to review apps.
 
StemCell007 said:
I really don't know what really helps to get a fellowship spot. I had applied 2 years before and didn't match. I was told to beef up my resume before I re-apply.

Now, despite MPH with clinical research, 7 publications, numerous abstracts and oral presentation and awards, strong LoR's and no need for visa; still finding it very tough. The only other thing I can do now is to get a PhD..... or look for contacts.... I don't know what works....

Sorry guys just a little tired of facing the same all over again...🙁
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I am in the same boat, applied in 2007, got 2 interviews, was told that no one will take me on H1, applied again this year after green card, research, and nothing so far. It really sucks. I am not sure if they are even opening my application as they can easily plug in their criteria and go with filter. you may for whatever reason have an average score on the USMLE which is stuck with you, now a PD place his criteria as USMLE scores > ex. 87; your done, as simple as that because you are filtered. I DON'T BELIEVE THE PD IS REVIEWING 800-1000 applications. He would just go with filter, then he will get 50-100 applications that meets his criteria and review it. There are guys who have done PhD, MPH, fellowships in palliative care, they are licensed physicians, they are taking care of patients and yet ?????they are not able to get IV only because they have a score less what in the head of PD, or they have been away from residency for >3 years (practicing as hospitalist), or they have been doing research so now they are > 10 years away from medical school. It really sucks. Many of us are spending years beefing up our CVs and despite that we cant get even an interview. I don't think we are doing odd jobs while waiting the interview to come. We are working in medicine. ????????????????????????????????????
 
I think I am one of those heard nothing, no interview, no rejections. graduated 1 year and three years ago applied with 5 interviews but didn't match, currently green card--- don't know whether it helps or not.

I think as a fellowship program, it is not the right way to filter application by USMLE scores, although I hold an above average score, but my meaning is---residency and fellowship is not s score at all.. Seen so many high scorer sucks in clinic and patient care, bedside manner especially hematology and oncology field... no offense to high scorer here..

what I want to say is every application deserve a look by PDs, not only because the application fee, but as a resident or who finished residency, already proved his ability..
 
Tutu thanks for feedback... you do look good though....... good luck with your interview.... Will just hope for the best I suppose....
 
would you please advice for one who had attempt at step 3
 
😳IV from NIH heme and Duke yesterday. 😱No news from UCSF although applied.
 
👍 Duke by email
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👎 DFCI by email
 
Yale oncology interview by email on 1/7.
Kind of excited about going to interview there given the new oncology center they recently built. Anyone have any thoughts or heard anything about the program?
 
I am an 4th year student and I am interested in Heme Onc. I want to pursue private practice. I am strongly considering VCU or Ohio State for internal medicine residency. While interviewing at Ohio St. a Hematologist told me they only take people in Heme onc who want to do academics at Ohio St. I was thinking, where are the fellowships that are open to people pursuing private practive? Or does everyone lie on interviews telling them they want to do academics forever just to get in?
 
I can understand the anxiety you guys are going through. I have gone through this last year but luckily matched.
One advise I can give you is that "hang in there". I got interviews even in march. My $ 0.02 on the interview is that most programs I interviewed were very academically oriented. A lot of interview questions were directed towards my plans about my future direction. So be well prepared for your interviews. Mostly they will pair you with interviewees of your interest. So read their research and be ready to defend your research or interest.
 
Hi guys, I am new to this forum and having the same anxiety as all of you.
My profile: IMG, PhD in oncology and postdoc, 5 first-authored papers in so-so journal, 6 co-authored papers; PGY-2 in a community-based, university affiliated program.
Applied on 12/01 to 29 programs (top 20 and some regional programs).

IV:
Thomas Jefferson 12/7
NCI 12/24
Baylor College of Medicine 1/3
UT Southwestern 1/8

Rej: Dana-Farber 12/31.

No IV or rejection from programs that have sent out IV or rej: Duke, Foxchase, Upenn, UCSF, BI, Vandy, Yale, Northwestern.

Good luck to everyone!
 
gls5377 said:
I am an 4th year student and I am interested in Heme Onc. I want to pursue private practice. I am strongly considering VCU or Ohio State for internal medicine residency. While interviewing at Ohio St. a Hematologist told me they only take people in Heme onc who want to do academics at Ohio St. I was thinking, where are the fellowships that are open to people pursuing private practive? Or does everyone lie on interviews telling them they want to do academics forever just to get in?
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NB: I'm an academic and can't imagine working in private practice.

What you describe is the standard at just about every program out there. Just smile and nod and move on.

It actually starts to get kind of funny after awhile. When I was interviewing, I would always ask where people ended up after finishing their fellowship. The most straightforward answers I got were from MSKCC and NW who both said "about 50/50 academic/private" and left it at that. The remainder (including where I matched) answered "we only train academic oncologists...occasionally someone will go into community practice but we're really not sure how that happens and we're taking steps to correct it."

If you want to completely sabotage your chances at a fellowship interview, tell them you're planning to go PP when you graduate. Otherwise you'll say something like "I'm exploring my options, interested in clinical trials and maybe some bench research" and you'll be fine.
 
gutonc said:
NB: I'm an academic and can't imagine working in private practice.

What you describe is the standard at just about every program out there. Just smile and nod and move on.

It actually starts to get kind of funny after awhile. When I was interviewing, I would always ask where people ended up after finishing their fellowship. The most straightforward answers I got were from MSKCC and NW who both said "about 50/50 academic/private" and left it at that. The remainder (including where I matched) answered "we only train academic oncologists...occasionally someone will go into community practice but we're really not sure how that happens and we're taking steps to correct it."

If you want to completely sabotage your chances at a fellowship interview, tell them you're planning to go PP when you graduate. Otherwise you'll say something like "I'm exploring my options, interested in clinical trials and maybe some bench research" and you'll be fine.
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I totally agree with you gutonc. NIH was a prime example. A very nice program and a mecca for bench research but I remember at the start of the interview the PDs first line ( I am not going to quote but essentially what he meant was ) If you don't want to do academic you can leave right now.
 
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