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ASA has learned that the U.S. House of Representatives is poised to move forward soon with consideration of a revised version of H.R. 3200, the “America’s Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009” – a bill that may include a public plan option tied to unreasonably low Medicare payment rates.

ALL ASA members are urged to CALL their Representative IMMEDIATELY today or Monday.

Click here to access your Representative’s phone number and talking points

The Democratic leadership of the House of Representatives is working behind closed doors today and is expected to work into next week to prepare a final version of H.R. 3200. Drafting of the legislation is expected to be completed by early next week with consideration of H.R. 3200 by the full House of Representatives possible as soon as the week of October 5.

Among the key issues under discussion in the closed door meetings is the fate of the public plan option – a new government sponsored plan to be offered as an option to consumers. This issue has been hotly contested among House members. Previously, it appeared that the moderate to conservative Democratic Blue Dog Coalition had prevailed in the House with its version of a public option that permitted physicians and other providers to negotiate payment levels. In fact, the Blue Dog version of the public option was included as a part of the House Energy and Commerce Committee’s version of H.R. 3200. ASA strongly supported the Blue Dog effort.

However, most recently it appears that as a result of a strong push from members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus, the public plan tied to Medicare payment rates has gained enough support among the House Democratic leadership to be included in the final version of H.R. 3200.

It is extremely disappointing that the House would consider reverting to a Medicare rate-based plan that would adversely affect physicians and their patients. The use of unreasonably low Medicare payment levels in any public, private or co-op plan is completely unacceptable to the ASA.

Please call your member of Congress immediately and urge him or her to support a public plan that allows for negotiated payment rates.

OK AMA we are listening closely, ready to call your bluff. Are you going to stand with us and fight like you promised in your last letter to us, or are you going to throw us under the truck again?

- pod
 
OK AMA we are listening closely, ready to call your bluff. Are you going to stand with us and fight like you promised in your last letter to us, or are you going to throw us under the truck again?

- pod


I got an email from the AMA saying they will be at the ASA. If anyone is attending the ASA I suggest you stop by and give them a piece of your mind.

"The AMA is coming to the American Society of Anesthesiologists (ASA) Annual Meeting in New Orleans!
Oct. 18–20
Morial Convention Center
900 Convention Center Blvd.
New Orleans, LA 70130
Exhibit Hours:
Sunday, Oct. 18, 12:30 p.m.–6:00 p.m.
Monday, Oct. 19, 9:00 a.m.–4:00 p.m.
Tuesday, Oct. 20, 9:00 a.m.–3:00 p.m.
Please stop by our booth #2631 to learn more about what the AMA can do for you.
 
October 20th is probably too little too late. The Democrats wants a piece of legislation to vote on before that date; otherwise, the "reconciliation" clause/threat can't be used this year. That is why ther are rushing to get something done ASAP.

I don't think they can make the reconciliation deadline. But, keep an eye out for the very important passing of this deadline. Our field's survival depends on a "watered down" version of HR3200 without a MEDICARE based public option.

If the Senate passes a Medicare Based Public Option our goose is cooked and this Physician based field is toast. Perhaps, we will need to join the AANA if that happens? 😉 Our Residency Programs/Future Anesthesitists won't be MDs.



The reconciliation instruction specifies a date. That date, according to one congressional staffer, is October 15.
 
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This is typical of Americans.

They are good in the sprint, but lousy in the marathon. And, this argument is going to be a marathon. We just don't have the stamina.

What you've guys seen, thus far, is the sprint. All the hot rhetoric and yelling at congressman at Town Hall meetings... sprint. People were mobilized, angry, and scared.

Now, get ready for good ole fashion Am-ur-eh-kun apathy.

It's like going on a diet. People are all motivated and whatnot for about a week. But, when it requires sustained effort, they give up. And, they wind up fatter than ever.

No wonder we have an obesity epidemic in this country.

Maobama is going to get his healthcare plan.... while the rest of out-of-shape America huffs-and-puffs after becoming winded from the first run up the stairs, sits back down on the couch, and lights one up while reaching for the remote.

-copro
 
So for blade, copro, jet and others, lets suppose the worst case scenario happens, and a medicare based public option goes into effect. What advice would you have to those still in anesthesia residency? wait it out? quit? change specialties? Seek Fellowships? I'm assuming fellowships would get VERY competitive if that were to happen....
 
So for blade, copro, jet and others, lets suppose the worst case scenario happens, and a medicare based public option goes into effect. What advice would you have to those still in anesthesia residency? wait it out? quit? change specialties? Seek Fellowships? I'm assuming fellowships would get VERY competitive if that were to happen....


I'd go for a fellowship if I were you.
 
which fellowship to pick is kind of a difficulty for me currently. My personal belief is that cardiac anesthesia will start to shrink in scope. The reason being that as cardiothoracic surgery becomes less and less invasive, and cardiologists take more business from them, cardiac fellowships become less and less important subsequently. Pair that with shrinking reimbursements, and i'm not so sure of the future of cardiac anesthesia.

Pain management is also in flux, which leaves ICU, a high burnout rate specialty, and peds, which I really don't have much interest in currently, although things may change for me later.
 
Pain management is also in flux, which leaves ICU, a high burnout rate specialty, and peds, which I really don't have much interest in currently, although things may change for me later.

Well if more people join me in practice, then i wouldnt have to worry about that 🙂
 
which fellowship to pick is kind of a difficulty for me currently. My personal belief is that cardiac anesthesia will start to shrink in scope. The reason being that as cardiothoracic surgery becomes less and less invasive, and cardiologists take more business from them, cardiac fellowships become less and less important subsequently. Pair that with shrinking reimbursements, and i'm not so sure of the future of cardiac anesthesia.

Pain management is also in flux, which leaves ICU, a high burnout rate specialty, and peds, which I really don't have much interest in currently, although things may change for me later.

I would not say cardiac is on the way out. Until anesthesia residency requires TEE certification (not likely to happen, in fact recently turned the OTHER way making it impossible) there will be jobs. Yes, minimally invasive may take off with the DaVinci and so on, but cardiac will not become so routine that the jobs are not there for fellowed docs for a long long time.

Pain may get hit hard with the new healthcare plan. If you don't like peds don't do it. CCM, I feel, will probably be the domain of hospitalists in a few years. Growth has now stagnated in most places, they're in house 24/7, don't generate enough billing to cover their own salaries often by a long shot. They will need SOMETHING else to bill for to prove their worth. That and most private anesthesia groups just plain don't do CCM.
 
CURRENT RESIDENTS:

Do NOT do a fellowship right now. That's $200-250K that you will not get back.

MAKE HAY WHILE THE SUN SHINES!

... and, the sun is going to set in the not-too-distant future.

-copro
 
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