HMS with 25 on mcat?!

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I just saw a profile om mdapplicants.com

This guy made in into Harvard with mcat 25!

How Da Hell Did did that happen?

Applicant Profile, #00438:
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Home State: UT

Undergraduate Institution: Brigham Young University
Area of Study:Biological/Life Sciences

Other Institution: Russian Area Studies
Area of Study: Foreign Language/International Studies
Degree Obtained: 1996

Other Institution: Paramedicine
Area of Study: Nursing/Pharmacy/Medical Technology
Degree Obtained: 1997

Application Year: 2003
MCAT Score: PS 7, VR 10, BS 8, R
BCPM GPA: 3.88
Overall GPA: 3.84
AMCAS Verified: Yes



Brief Profile:
Tons of stuff that may or may not have mattered

Overview of Applications:
Rejected Pre-Secondary
Stanford University (MD)

Rejected Post-Secondary
Albert Einstein of Yeshiva University (MD)
Baylor College (MD)
Boston University (MD)
Case Western Reserve University (MD)
Georgetown University (MD)
Johns Hopkins University (MD)
Mayo Medical School (MD)
Ohio State University (MD)
Tufts University (MD)
Tulane University (MD)
University of Virginia (MD)
Washington University in St. Louis (MD)
Yale University (MD)

Rejected Post-Interview
Uniformed Services University (MD)
University of Toledo (MD)

Accepted
Harvard University (MD)
University of Utah (MD)
Vanderbilt University (MD)

Summary of Application Process:
I didn't give up despite the 25 on the MCAT and I just got into Vanderbilt, Utah, and HARVARD!
 
I predict that someone will mention URM status in the next 10 posts...

EDIT: Make that 5.
 
#1 it was 2003
#2 numbers aren't everything
#3 he's got a good GPA
#4 he's non-traditional
 
The Harvard staff needed someone to talk about M*A*S*H with.
 
Looks like there is hope for all of us.

Given the degrees that this guy obtained, I would guess that he has some crazy EC's, and perhaps an excuse for not having a lot of time to study for the MCAT. Is he an RN? He also speaks Russian, as well as maybe other languages. I bet he did Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders) in Georgia (the country, not the state) or something. (Note: MSF is very different than anywhere undergrads get to volunteer - you must have a medical degree like an RN or an MD, you may go through checkpoints with 12-year-olds armed with AK-47s, may see land mines, and will work with POD's)
 
MarinaS said:
Looks like there is hope for all of us.

Given the degrees that this guy obtained, I would guess that he has some crazy EC's, and perhaps an excuse for not having a lot of time to study for the MCAT. Is he an RN? He also speaks Russian, as well as maybe other languages. I bet he did Médecins Sans Frontières (Doctors Without Borders) in Georgia (the country, not the state) or Romania or something.
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iliveingeoregia.jpg
 
could also be fake

last time I checked amcas doesn't verify your mdapps profile
 
i wonder how he was rejected from Stanford pre-secondary when they dont screen primaries :meanie:


but then again it was 6 yrs ago..
 
they must walk around on their knees if you know what i mean 😉

check this one out

Applicant Profile, #05361:
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Ethnicity: Caucasian
Home State: IA

Undergraduate Institution: Cornell College
Area of Study:Premedical Studies

Application Year: 2006
MCAT Score: PS 5, VR 6, BS 6, N
BCPM GPA: 2.75
Overall GPA: 2.98
AMCAS Verified: Yes

Brief Profile:
I'm apart of numerous clubs at Cornell and I also volunteer on a regular basis at a free health clinic in a larger city near my college. During my summers I volunteered in a cancer center, a rural family practice clinic, and Des Moines University on a research project for a public health grant.

Overview of Applications:
Accepted
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Des Moines University (MD)
PrimarySec. RcvdSec. SentCompleteInterviewAcceptedWaitlistedWithdrewRejected1/1/70 1/1/70 1/1/70 1/1/70 1/1/70 1/1/70 1/1/70 1/1/70 1/1/70


Summary of Application Process:
I never thought I would be accepted but I am a perfect example of 'you never know until you try.' I only applied to DMU because it is an amazing school that is gaining recognition and I knew it was the only place I wanted to go. With my numbers I knew I wasn't going to be competive at any school so why apply somewhere I did not want to attend. Thankfully, I had a good interview and plenty of support from faculty and staff at DMU. I was accepted on April 14th, and I will start orientation on August 7th!
 
I speak Russian and Azeri , I also have been in Georgia.)))))))))

I will get into Harvard YEEEEEAAAHHHHHHHHH👍
 
maybe 30 years down the line, mdapps will become a second application service that compete with AMCAS.
 
I call shenanigans. Maybe it's true, but it probably isn't. It definitely doesn't mean any of us can get into HMS with a 25. haha
 
The person that got a 25 has a few buildings or a huge fund named after there family at Harvard
 
Poliscidoc said:
The person that got a 25 has a few buildings or a huge fund named after there family at Harvard
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"Dale always said he would take over the family business."
"Aren't you a medical doctor?"
"Yes, but he just keeps saying 'It's all about who you know...'"

-Stepbrothers, lol :laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
Tons of stuff that may or may not have mattered
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We need a LOT more information on this guy's ECs.

Poliscidoc said:
The person that got a 25 has a few buildings or a huge fund named after there family at Harvard
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it would suck if that actually happened, if someone got in with a below average MCAT over all the other well qualified applicants... just b/c someone has a rich influential family doesn't mean they'd make a good doctor.
 
so? just because you have higher numbers doesnt mean youll be a better doctor. its their school...they can accept whoever they want.
 
ReptarBar said:
so? just because you have higher numbers doesnt mean youll be a better doctor. its their school...they can accept whoever they want.
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Higher numbers are an indicator of whether a person is good at absorbing and applying knowledge. It may not necessarily predict one's bedside manner, but numbers DO matter.
 
schrizto said:
Higher numbers are an indicator of whether a person is good at absorbing and applying knowledge. It may not necessarily predict one's bedside manner, but numbers DO matter.
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There is actually very very very little correlation between MCAT and USMLE scores. It is used because there isn't anything better.
 
MossPoh said:
There is actually very very very little correlation between MCAT and USMLE scores. It is used because there isn't anything better.
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Doesn't matter how much the MCAT correlates with the USMLE. Higher numbers look better and are a sign of how well a person learns, whether on the MCAT or USMLE, period.
 
MossPoh said:
There is actually very very very little correlation between MCAT and USMLE scores. It is used because there isn't anything better.
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i think i read a paper that said the mcat score is an extremely accurate predictor on the aamc website
 
BlueElmo said:
Extremely might be pushing it.
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It's pretty close to it. The MCAT is the equalizer; you could have a kid take it with a 3.9, As in all pre-reqs and just tank the MCAT. A lot of people get higher GPAs just because of more generous curves, so their 80% on an OChem test might get curved to an A, but they still only knew a Bs worth of the material. If you can do well on the MCAT, you've shown you can master a broad range of difficult material, that you can remember things well (unless you took every prereq class the semester before you took the MCAT -_-), and that you can perform well under the obvious stress the test puts everyone under.
 
mfrizzo3 said:
if a person passes all three steps and becomes board certified does it really matter what they got on the MCAT?
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But it's more likely for someone who got a 40 on the MCAT to do so than someone who got a 25.
 
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like Poliscidoc said, unless some serious $$$money$$$ is involved- i'm callin' a fake😎
 
I did not read all the posts on this thread because there is no point to read such a stupid thread. I am assuming someone already said this, so I'll repeat it...

MDapps is anonymous and non-verifiable. In other words, I'm sure half those entries are MADE UP. Md apps is almost completely useless. I would dare say it's more inaccurate than the comments written on an anonymous forum *coughSDNcough*.

This thread can now be closed.
 
rocketbooster said:
I did not read all the posts on this thread because there is no point to read such a stupid thread. I am assuming someone already said this, so I'll repeat it...

MDapps is anonymous and non-verifiable. In other words, I'm sure half those entries are MADE UP. Md apps is almost completely useless. I would dare say it's more inaccurate than the comments written on an anonymous forum *coughSDNcough*.

This thread can now be closed.
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Damn buzz kill

Rocket is right. Do you have conversations, simply ask questions and others post answers. No fun is to be had on this thing these kids call the internet...
 
Oh - I found his personal statement:

I felt fortunate to awaken from my weeks-long life-threatening coma in the Zimbabwe orphanage in which I was raised from infancy, until I realized the building was ablaze. After evacuating all the inhabitants including any stray insects who were drawn to the flames, I doused the fire with a water pump I had improvised from an old accordion bellows (on which I often played Bach fugues a la Albert Schweitzer) and a bamboo-like plant I had discovered in the jungle. I named the plant Medusa Abandona after my now forgiven American born mother, who forsook me in my cradle, only after it turned out to be an unknown genus and promised to have exciting anti-cancer medicinal qualities as well. When I was convinced that everyone in the orphanage was safe, I escaped the holocaust in the solar powered wheel chair I had developed to give myself more mobility after the unfortunate accident I had as a child, breaking my seventh vertebra while wrestling a lion that had terrorized the village.
When I was seven, the only doctor within a 300 mile radius took me under his wing. I shadowed him for ten years, which was quite difficult when you consider the dense jungle foliage and lack of sunlight at ground level. The fact that he was a witch doctor should in no way denigrate his skills nor the efficacy of his spells. If you accept me into your next medical class, I intend to teach my fellow students a series of hexes that will eliminate the need for Viagra, Allegra, Grecian Formula and Formula 409.
Most of my adolescence I spent draining swamps, eliminating mosquitoes and generally reducing the malarial plague in three contiguous countries in equatorial Africa. It was only after saving the lives of ten's of thousands of people that I decided to become a doctor in hope that over the course of my career I might be able to save just a few more. The journey to medicine was difficult. It was a choice between being a doctor and being a shoemaker, but after I taught everyone in my village how to make their own shoes there was no need to pursue this noble profession.
Harvard was reluctant to let me go after I got straight "A"s as the first graduate in their new correspondence bachelors degree program but with five majors and 12 books to my credit they finally acknowledged (see attached letter) that they had nothing left to teach me. My economics honors thesis was entitled "Grade Inflation at Harvard: The Great Hoax."
Given my academic prowess, imagine then how mortified I was to receive only a 44 (EDIT : 25 hehehe) aggregate MCAT score. Those of you at AAMC reading this, who may have contributed to writing the April exam, should be ashamed of yourselves. In the passage on "Halitosis" you referred to the sufferer as having "bad breadth". The patient could certainly be circumferentially challenged but I assumed a typo had been committed and that you meant he had "bad breath" and answered accordingly. My fellow hapless examinees' incorrect answers to question 39 should be stricken and the exam be recalibrated accordingly.
In short, becoming a doctor may seem humdrum and a come down compared to my life so far, but I am willing to unlearn a few things so I won't be so far ahead of my fellow medical classmates. And don't worry about my disability; I can still perform an angioplasty and thread several needles while doing 500 one-armed finger pushups.
 
Food said:
Oh - I found his personal statement:

I felt fortunate to awaken from my weeks-long life-threatening coma in the Zimbabwe orphanage in which I was raised from infancy, until I realized the building was ablaze. After evacuating all the inhabitants including any stray insects who were drawn to the flames, I doused the fire with a water pump I had improvised from an old accordion bellows (on which I often played Bach fugues a la Albert Schweitzer) and a bamboo-like plant I had discovered in the jungle. I named the plant Medusa Abandona after my now forgiven American born mother, who forsook me in my cradle, only after it turned out to be an unknown genus and promised to have exciting anti-cancer medicinal qualities as well. When I was convinced that everyone in the orphanage was safe, I escaped the holocaust in the solar powered wheel chair I had developed to give myself more mobility after the unfortunate accident I had as a child, breaking my seventh vertebra while wrestling a lion that had terrorized the village.
When I was seven, the only doctor within a 300 mile radius took me under his wing. I shadowed him for ten years, which was quite difficult when you consider the dense jungle foliage and lack of sunlight at ground level. The fact that he was a witch doctor should in no way denigrate his skills nor the efficacy of his spells. If you accept me into your next medical class, I intend to teach my fellow students a series of hexes that will eliminate the need for Viagra, Allegra, Grecian Formula and Formula 409.
Most of my adolescence I spent draining swamps, eliminating mosquitoes and generally reducing the malarial plague in three contiguous countries in equatorial Africa. It was only after saving the lives of ten's of thousands of people that I decided to become a doctor in hope that over the course of my career I might be able to save just a few more. The journey to medicine was difficult. It was a choice between being a doctor and being a shoemaker, but after I taught everyone in my village how to make their own shoes there was no need to pursue this noble profession.
Harvard was reluctant to let me go after I got straight "A"s as the first graduate in their new correspondence bachelors degree program but with five majors and 12 books to my credit they finally acknowledged (see attached letter) that they had nothing left to teach me. My economics honors thesis was entitled "Grade Inflation at Harvard: The Great Hoax."
Given my academic prowess, imagine then how mortified I was to receive only a 44 (EDIT : 25 hehehe) aggregate MCAT score. Those of you at AAMC reading this, who may have contributed to writing the April exam, should be ashamed of yourselves. In the passage on "Halitosis" you referred to the sufferer as having "bad breadth". The patient could certainly be circumferentially challenged but I assumed a typo had been committed and that you meant he had "bad breath" and answered accordingly. My fellow hapless examinees' incorrect answers to question 39 should be stricken and the exam be recalibrated accordingly.
In short, becoming a doctor may seem humdrum and a come down compared to my life so far, but I am willing to unlearn a few things so I won't be so far ahead of my fellow medical classmates. And don't worry about my disability; I can still perform an angioplasty and thread several needles while doing 500 one-armed finger pushups.
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cut and paste.. here I come harvard
 
schrizto said:
But it's more likely for someone who got a 40 on the MCAT to do so than someone who got a 25.
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That is not the question. It is not your decision who gets into medical school. If a person can succeed with a 25 in medical school, pass all three steps, and become board certified who cares what they got on the MCAT. Who is to say a person with a 3.0/40 vs 4.0/25 will become more successful? OH BOY 40. GEE GOLLY. YOU R SO SMART, but a lazy f*ck.
 
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MossPoh said:
There is actually very very very little correlation between MCAT and USMLE scores. It is used because there isn't anything better.
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That's the first time I've seen that assertion. I always hear, "strongly correlated with Step 1."
 
mfrizzo3 said:
That is not the question. It is not your decision who gets into medical school. If a person can succeed with a 25 in medical school, pass all three steps, and become board certified who cares what they got on the MCAT. Who is to say a person with a 3.0/40 vs 4.0/25 will become more successful? OH BOY 40. GEE GOLLY. YOU R SO SMART, but a lazy f*ck.
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don't overcompensate for your mcat inferiority complex please.
 
MCAT score is a good predictor of USMLE performance. Just keep in mind though, a 25 on the MCAT correlates with a USMLE score good enough to get into just about any specialty in medicine.
 
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