HomeSkool's Guide to Financing Your Medical Education

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This thread is so nerve-wracking. I know that physicians make good money, and going to med school is almost always a better financial decision than, you know, not going to med school, but the thought of how trapped I would be if something unforeseen happened that prevented me from finishing or practicing (as in, like, a major illness) is really scary.

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This thread is so nerve-wracking. I know that physicians make good money, and going to med school is almost always a better financial decision than, you know, not going to med school, but the thought of how trapped I would be if something unforeseen happened that prevented me from finishing or practicing (as in, like, a major illness) is really scary.

Federal student loans are forgiven in the case of permanent disability.

Just don't... decide you don't want to do medicine after going to medical school.
 
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Or flunk out.

Yes. Or flunk out. Or do something stupid and get kicked out. Or whatever.

If you drop out of medical school, you better be sick, dead, or have just won the lottery. Otherwise student loans will eat you.
 
So this week I’m tasking myself with liquefying some assets to pay tuition. It occurred to me that in some cases (investment portfolio) I am making more each year than the unsibsidized loans charge in interest.

If my ROI is 10% and the loan interest rate is ~7%, am I making a mistake by cashing out and paying my bill instead of taking loans?

My motivation is just for simplicity’s sake and to avoid any potential headaches (if the markets crash I would regret not just paying my bill with the money).

Ughhhh why is Med school so expensive.
 
So this week I’m tasking myself with liquefying some assets to pay tuition. It occurred to me that in some cases (investment portfolio) I am making more each year than the unsibsidized loans charge in interest.

If my ROI is 10% and the loan interest rate is ~7%, am I making a mistake by cashing out and paying my bill instead of taking loans?

My motivation is just for simplicity’s sake and to avoid any potential headaches (if the markets crash I would regret not just paying my bill with the money).

Ughhhh why is Med school so expensive.

You're unlikely to continue making 10% for the next 10 years.

You're more likely to earn an average of 5-7% per year, which is more in line with historical rates.
 
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You got into medical school! Now how do you pay for it? You already sold a kidney and your grandma disinherited you after your last arrest. What options are left?

In this guide, I’ll provide a rundown of some basic options for funding medical school. This subject is very complex and my guide won’t be 100% comprehensive, but it'll be a good starting point. As you prepare to matriculate, work with your school’s financial aid office to explore these and other options. (Post-med school loan forgiveness programs are outside the scope of this guide unless I someday decide to add them as an edit.)

There are several options for funding medical school:
  • Cash (your own money)
  • Scholarships and grants (other people’s money)
  • Loans (other people’s money that you’ll have to pay back someday)
  • Service programs (everybody’s money that you pay back with years of your life)
But first things first: the Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA).

The FAFSA.
My wife says if you aren't familiar with the FAFSA, you should talk to your mom because she's been filling it out for you every year. Filling it out is the first step to securing financial aid. It’s super-annoying to fill out for the first time, so you should block out like six hours and have your parents on speed dial because you’re going to need all sorts of info including their SSN, income, assets, dependents, shoe size, BMI, MELD score, and whether they know all the words to "Ice, Ice Baby". (Hopefully your mom already filled this out once for you in the past, so all you need to do is update it with last year’s tax numbers.)
By the way, current law makes professional students “independent”, meaning their parents’ income and favorite color aren’t used when considering eligibility for federal loans. However, many schools do consider parental information when determining whether to award institutional aid.
After you submit the FAFSA and any additional paperwork your school gives you, you'll receive an award package. This will include a letter from the Department of Education stating which loans/grants you're qualified to receive. In addition, it'll contain information on any other sources of financial aid that are being offered to you. You'll work with your financial aid office to accept the package and secure loan money. This brings us to...
The Funding.
Cash
Pretty self-explanatory. If you’re independently wealthy from your Russia-based software piracy ring, you can always cut checks directly to your school. Schools may also accept rolls of $20 bills (contact the cashier’s office to confirm).
Scholarships and grants
Scholarships and grants are often confused with one another, but they are different. Grants are most often from public funding sources (although they can also come from private groups and institutions) and are generally awarded on basis of need. Scholarships are more often merit-based (sometimes with a need component) and derived from non-public sources.

Too many scholarship and grant opportunities exist for me to discuss them specifically in this guide. Accepted students should research available funding sources themselves, as well as with their schools’ financial aid offices. (As part of my preparation to matriculate, my school’s financial aid office sent me a packet to fill out; later, they returned with an award package containing a mix of scholarships and grants that helped defray some of my costs.)

EDIT: @gonnif has improved this guide by contributing a list of scholarships compiled by the UC Irvine financial aid office! Scroll down to post #25, or click here: HomeSkool's Guide to Financing Your Medical Education
Loans
Federal Loans
There are two main types of federal loans for medical students: unsubsidized Direct (Stafford) loans and Grad PLUS loans. Students with “exceptional” need may also qualify for Perkins loans. Finally, there are HRSA Primary Care loans, which I won’t discuss in this guide because it's already going to be long enough.

Unsubsidized Stafford loans (Unsubsidized Direct loans)

These are fixed-rate loans, and med students may borrow up to $40,500 each year and $224,000 in their lifetime (including any Stafford loans used to finance undergrad). Interest begins accruing when the loans are disbursed, but it doesn’t capitalize until the loans enter repayment. The loans remain in deferment as long as you’re enrolled in school at least half-time; afterward, you have a six-month grace period before repayment begins. The repayment period is 10 years. During residency, they can be put in forbearance; in this case, interest continues to accrue but payments aren’t required.



    • Origination fee: 1.066%
    • Interest rate: 6.00%
    • Grace period: 6 months
    • Repayment term: 10 years
    • Limits: $40,500 annually, $224,000 lifetime (including undergrad loans)
Grad PLUS loans (Direct PLUS loans)
These are fixed-rate loans used to cover the difference between your other sources of funding and the annual cost of attending your school. The annual cost of attendance is determined by your school and includes tuition and fees, books and supplies, room and board, transportation, and personal expenses. An adverse credit history can disqualify you from these loans. Interest begins accruing when your school receives the funds and capitalizes when the loan enters repayment. The timing of repayment is identical to that of Stafford loans.



    • Origination fee: 4.264%
    • Interest rate: 7.00%
    • Grace period: 6 months
    • Repayment term: 10 years
    • Limits: up to the full cost of attendance as determined by your school, minus any other financial aid received (including scholarships)
Perkins loans
These are federal loans with even more favorable terms than the two types listed above. They have the same repayment period, but a longer grace period and a lower interest rate.



    • Origination fee: none
    • Interest rate: 5.00%
    • Grace period: 9 months
    • Repayment term: 10 years
    • Limits: $8,000 annually, $60,000 lifetime (including undergrad loans)
Direct consolidated loan
After graduation, you can consolidate multiple federal loans to have a single fixed-rate, fixed-payment loan. The interest rate is the weighted average of the rates of the loans being consolidated, rounded up to the nearest 0.125%. The repayment period is anywhere from 10 to 30 years depending on the amount consolidated. $60,000 or more qualifies for 30-year repayment.
State loans
Some states offer medical school loan programs. Generally, you automatically apply for these programs by submitting your FAFSA.
Private loans
If you need additional funding beyond the sources listed above, you can always approach private lenders. These loans’ terms won’t be subject to the same regulations as the federal loans, but lenders tend to offer competitive repayment terms.
Institutional loans
Some schools also offer loans from their own monies. These are often “emergency” loans.
Service programs
Health Professions Scholarship Program
The most well-known public service program for medical school funding is the HPSP. The Army, Navy, and Air Force all participate in the program with some differences between the specifics (for example, the Army and Air Force offer scholarships for one to four years; the Navy only offers three- and four-year scholarships). During med school, students are commissioned O-1 reservists (i.e., Second Lieutenant for the Army and Air Force, Ensign for the Navy) and funded by their sponsoring service branch. Covered expenses include tuition, mandatory books and equipment, some fees, laptop rental, and a monthly stipend.

HPSP students must spend 45 days on active duty each year. This requirement is met during officer basic training between MS-1 and MS-2; for other years, it can be waived based on the student's academic requirements. MS-3 and MS-4 students have the option to complete some clinical rotations at military hospitals, and they're on active duty during those rotations (which means more pay!).

Upon graduation, students are promoted to O-3 (i.e., Captain in the Army and Air Force, Lieutenant in the Navy) and commence active duty. Students may complete their residency as an active duty servicemember at a military site; alternatively, they may apply for a deferment so they can complete a civilian residency. Remember: the military owns your butt and doesn't have to approve a request for deferment! Military physicians do not deploy during residency. And contrary to what that one misinformed premed doofus told you, the military does not dictate your specialty. You apply for what you want.

After residency, you begin your payback period. Without going into too much detail, payback duration is either the number of years of scholarship you took or the length of your residency minus intern year (assuming a military residency), whichever is longer. If you take a two-year scholarship and do a four-year residency, for example, your payback period will be three years (four-year residency minus intern year equals three). I don't know about the Air Force and Navy (and don't care to Google it right now), but I know the Army has a minimum two-year payback requirement.
Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences (USUHS)
Students who attend USUHS enjoy a tuition-free education with a military service commitment afterward. At the time of their interview, students rank the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Public Health Service, and accepted students are then assigned to one of those branches depending on the needs of each. Once they start school, students are commissioned as O-1's on active duty, and they receive full active duty pay while in school (currently about $65K for O-1's, $30K of which is tax-exempt). Upon graduating, students are advanced to O-3 and complete their residencies. By attending USUHS, students incur a seven-year active duty service obligation (ADSO); after completing the ADSO, they may elect to remain in the military or separate. Those who serve fewer than ten years on active duty after residency will remain in the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) two to six years after separating. Those in the IRR don't have to drill or train, but they are subject to call-up by the President in event of an emergency.
NHSC Scholarship program
This program awards scholarships to medical (and other health professional) students in exchange for a commitment to provide care in underserved areas. It covers tuition, fees, and a living stipend. Participants repay their scholarship with a two- to four-year period providing primary care in a high-need health professional shortage area. That's really all I know about this program, though I may do more research and update this post later.
A couple final notes .
Assuming you don't run away to Canada or some other backwards country, you'll eventually have to pay back any loans. I have a couple tips to make this less painful.

How to prioritize loans

People who don't understand finance often think you should pay down the biggest loan first. This is not the best strategy (the cake is a lie). Pay down the one with the highest interest rate first, regardless of how large or small it may be.

Think of interest rates as the price tag to borrow money. If you have a 10% interest rate, the annual cost of borrowing $1 is 10¢; for a loan with a 2% interest rate, that cost is 2¢. That means each dollar in the 10% loan is five times as expensive as every dollar in the 2% loan.

Example: Suppose you borrow $1,000 at 10% and $10,000 at 2%. You don't have any mandatory payment this year, but you do have $1,000 of money that you found hidden in your freezer. You have two options:



    • Option A: Put the money against the 10% loan. It's paid off and accrues no interest. The other loan accrues $200 of interest ($10,000 x 2% = $200).
    • Option 2: Put the money against the 2% loan. Now the 10% loan will accrue $100 of interest ($1,000 x 10% = $100) and the 2% loan will accrue $180 of interest ($9,000 x 2% = $180). Total interest for the year is $280.
In this scenario, option A saves you money. This is true no matter what the actual numbers on your loans may be. Once more: you should always prioritize paying whichever loan has the highest interest rate.
Loan Consolidation
You can also consolidate many of your loans to simplify things. Suppose you get three loans from Lender A, then use Lender B to consolidate. Lender B will buy your loans from Lender A (by paying off everything you owe that lender), and now all your debt will be combined in a single loan from Lender B. It means simpler monthly payments, but more importantly, it gives you the option to change the terms of your repayment. And you don't have to consolidate all of your loans if you don't want to.

Here's a practical example of how it works:



    • You have two loans with different interest rates from Lender A, and one loan from lender B. Then you decide to consolidate with Lender C.
    • Lender C says, "We'll allow you to consolidate at interest rate X." X is lower than the interest rate for your loan from B, as well as one of your loans from A.
    • You decide to consolidate the loan from B and the high-interest one from A.
    • Now you owe Lender C money, which is accruing interest at a lower rate than it would have in the original loans. And you also owe some money to Lender A, which has an even lower interest rate than your new consolidated loan.
When consolidating, you'll be offered different terms of repayment: "A years at X interest, B years at Y interest, C years at Z interest." A longer repayment term means lower monthly payments but a higher interest rate. (Again, think of interest rate as the price tag. If you want to tie up a lender's money for ten years, they won't charge you as steep an interest rate as if you want to tie it up for thirty years.) So pick a repayment term that's aggressive so you can get a lower interest rate, but not so aggressive that the monthly payments become a hardship.
I hope this guide is useful to you! I'm always happy to answer questions if you have them. And I'll update/modify this with new info from time to time.

Love,
HomeSkool

P.S. A big shout-out to Mrs. HomeSkool, who contributed wisdom and wit to this guide!



I also suggest talking to a CPA (Certified Public Accountant) as there may be tax implications.
 
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So this week I’m tasking myself with liquefying some assets to pay tuition. It occurred to me that in some cases (investment portfolio) I am making more each year than the unsibsidized loans charge in interest.

If my ROI is 10% and the loan interest rate is ~7%, am I making a mistake by cashing out and paying my bill instead of taking loans?

My motivation is just for simplicity’s sake and to avoid any potential headaches (if the markets crash I would regret not just paying my bill with the money).

Ughhhh why is Med school so expensive.
I made the same mistake in medical school before I knew anything about finances.

If you sell before a year it (the gains) is considered and taxed at normal income... Which may not be a huge deal if you don't make any more money, but it's taxed at short term capital gains taxes. If it's been held for more than a year it's long term capital gains tax. What you put in you get back without being taxed again.

You should not be investing in the market as a medical student, in my opinion, when you have no income and are living off of debt that is costing you 7% interest every year. You should be trying to minimize that number. The odds of you making more than 7% every year are not good enough to take the risk.

When I figured that out, I liquidiated the money and sent back some loans. I agree with above to consider any possible tax implications. If it's a small amount of money, I wouldn't worry too much about that, though.

Now during residency, it may be worth contributing to a roth IRA. I've written about a lot of this before on my site.

TPP

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How do you qualify for a perkins loan, since it is more favorable?
The Department of Education allots a specific amount of Perkins loan funding to participating schools, and the schools themselves determine which of their students have the greatest need.
 
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Thanks for the responses, that all sounds logical!
 
Now during residency, it may be worth contributing to a roth IRA. I've written about a lot of this before on my site.
You suggest that it would be beneficial to contribute to a Roth IRA in residency, but what about during medical school? After residency you would be unable to contribute. Investing early, especially in a Roth IRA given the tax bracket practicing physicians find themselves in and the maximum contribution limit of $5,500/yr, would pay off immensely come retirement. I'm a nontraditional applicant who currently has a Roth IRA and I plan on contributing throughout medical school AND residency.
 
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You suggest that it would be beneficial to contribute to a Roth IRA in residency, but what about during medical school? After residency you would be unable to contribute. Investing early, especially in a Roth IRA given the tax bracket practicing physicians find themselves in and the maximum contribution limit of $5,500/yr, would pay off immensely come retirement. I'm a nontraditional applicant who currently has a Roth IRA and I plan on contributing throughout medical school AND residency.

So you’re going to borrow $5,500 at 7% to kite into a Roth?

Or will you somehow have an income during medical school?
 
You suggest that it would be beneficial to contribute to a Roth IRA in residency, but what about during medical school? After residency you would be unable to contribute. Investing early, especially in a Roth IRA given the tax bracket practicing physicians find themselves in and the maximum contribution limit of $5,500/yr, would pay off immensely come retirement. I'm a nontraditional applicant who currently has a Roth IRA and I plan on contributing throughout medical school AND residency.

For a non-trad in med school this is an interesting concept. I thought (initially) that you could get a tax-credit like a resident...but the tax credit doesn't apply to full time students. So, I think you should minimize your debt in medical school. Not a huge benefit to doing an IRA if you are getting hit with 7% debt. That said, if you have a free-ride, max the thing out.

I'd also like to say that you are not limited to putting money into a Roth IRA as an attending, it's called a backdoor Roth IRA. I've written a tutorial on it here.

I've also written about why I think it may be beneficial for some to investing in an IRA during residency. Some of that applies to med school, too:
1) the benefits there are that you (depending on income/family size) may get a tax break for contributing (theoretically beneficial as a med student as a tax credit... get money back for investing). That said, full-time students such as med students cannot get this tax credit.

2) You lose the space each year that you don't contribute. This is true for anyone in any circumstance

3) If you can do it, it'll help in the end.

4) Learning to save when your income is low is only going to help you learn behavioral finance habits that will help you when your income increases.

Just some preliminary thoughts. Feel free to ask questions.

TPP
 
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For a non-trad in med school this is an interesting concept. I thought (initially) that you could get a tax-credit like a resident...but the tax credit doesn't apply to full time students. So, I think you should minimize your debt in medical school. Not a huge benefit to doing an IRA if you are getting hit with 7% debt. That said, if you have a free-ride, max the thing out.

I'd also like to say that you are not limited to putting money into a Roth IRA as an attending, it's called a backdoor Roth IRA. I've written a tutorial on it here.
Wow, very interesting. I had never heard of the backdoor method of contributing. I appreciate how thorough your explanation was within the link.

So you’re going to borrow $5,500 at 7% to kite into a Roth?

Or will you somehow have an income during medical school?
It's still up in the air on whether or not I will have a paid research position while attending a school which is well below the median cost of attendance. If I secure the position then I will maximize my contribution. But now TPP has me second guessing taking out another $22,000 over the four years.
 
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If i have medical expenses, in addition to my total COA, are my only options for loans private loans?

Say i need more money for therapy, or a surgery, that's not included in the CoA. Or if i have a chronic medical condition. Is my only option private loans?
 
If i have medical expenses, in addition to my total COA, are my only options for loans private loans?

Say i need more money for therapy, or a surgery, that's not included in the CoA. Or if i have a chronic medical condition. Is my only option private loans?
As far as I know, you'd have to use private loans for that.
 
coudl someone explain the grad PLUS loan to me? I've filled out my fafsa and its been processed and i did entrance counseling and the MPN for plus loans but there is a separate app for the direct PLUS?
 
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Hello! I wanted to ask if it's better to pay the accruing interest every year before it all adds up or should I start paying only during residency?
 
coudl someone explain the grad PLUS loan to me? I've filled out my fafsa and its been processed and i did entrance counseling and the MPN for plus loans but there is a separate app for the direct PLUS?

 
Is "managing" from afar a small business you own (really letting others manage it) a bad idea during medical school or should you sell the business and cut all interest/stress?
 
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