honors violation

[qwerty934]

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[ajj70]

Are you POSITIVE it is not on your record? Also, did you include it last year? If so, include it again because some schools check previous application materials from what others have said. What was the violation? If it was something like academic dishonesty, that is going to be a big issue for dental school. If it was underage drinking, probably just a blip on the radar and not going to be a problem.

 

[cacajuate]

If it's not on your record anywhere, don't put it.

 

[hellofuturedentists]

Check your record and see if it's on there. If it is, put it. If not, and it's still really bothering you, call AADSAS, explain that it's not on your record, and ask what should be done. That would ease my conscience if I were in your shoes.

 

[zriceman]

I graduated from college back in 2013 December. This has been more than 2 years now.
I've contemplated a lot about my situation.
I had to go to an honor court for the violation and was found guilty.
I've completed all my hours of community services and they said no notation will remain on my academic record nor transcript about my honors violation.
I have applied to postbacc program and was accepted for 2015-2016 cycle since I have a low undergrad GPA.
Please don't bash me here I know I messed up and I've learned a lot from my mistakes in the past.
My concern is that whether I should include this on my AADSAS application.
When I applied for postbacc program, they asked me in the application if I have ever get caught for honors violation and I said "No" because I was too scared and it turned out to be fine.
I really want to become a dentist but I'm not sure if I should be honest on my AADSAS application.
My logic is that if it no longer remains in my record nor transcript, why include this on my application if they will never find out?
I consider myself an honest person but this devil is talking in my ears to be dishonest on my AADSAS because I really feel like they will never find out. Do they really call or email applicants' college to check up on their academic background? I mean they told me there will be no notation regarding this violation on my transcript nor my record, but I dont know what to do

ps. I applied last cycle and received a single interview from MOSDOH and then rejected due to low GPA and DAT.

I checked yes for honor code violation and made into dschool and gpr. Be honest and, have good rec letters and you will get in somewhere. Yes it sucks to have this and prob will affect your chances at some schools, but its better than being kicked out of dental school and having the fear of being found out

 

[kayden28]

The way I see it, there's no 100% guarantee that they won't find out so it would be so much worse for them to find out on their own. If you tell them yourself, it'll speak volumes about your honesty, integrity and overall ethics. It's so much better this way than to fear having your acceptance revoked later. If that were to happen and you ever re-applied, you'd then have to disclose to ALL dental schools that you were accepted but had it revoked due to dishonesty which will reflect terribly on you. I wouldn't chance it.... own what happened and talk about how it's impacted you, how you've grown and how it's defined who you are morally/ethically.

 

[qwerty934]

I checked yes for honor code violation and made into dschool and gpr. Be honest and, have good rec letters and you will get in somewhere. Yes it sucks to have this and prob will affect your chances at some schools, but its better than being kicked out of dental school and having the fear of being found out

I dont know I just want to shoot myself in the head.
For a little more details, back in 2013 I cheated on the test, had my eyes on someone else's paper.
The penalty was 75 hours of university service hours and double-weighted zero on that specific exam.
I ended up with a "C" for that course.
I just talked to the school and they said it doesn't show on my transcript, but it does remain under my record. In case where the school asks for the background check they will nicely tell them that I have been reported, but their student has grown up and will succeed blah blah blah.
I need some advice. I don't know what to do.
I'm starting my postbacc in the fall and Im aiming for 4.0 and I have retaken my DAT recently and scored 23AA 24TS.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

 

[ajj70]

I dont know I just want to shoot myself in the head.
For a little more details, back in 2013 I cheated on the test, had my eyes on someone else's paper.
The penalty was 75 hours of university service hours and double-weighted zero on that specific exam.
I ended up with a "C" for that course.
I just talked to the school and they said it doesn't show on my transcript, but it does remain under my record. In case where the school asks for the background check they will nicely tell them that I have been reported, but their student has grown up and will succeed blah blah blah.
I need some advice. I don't know what to do.
I'm starting my postbacc in the fall and Im aiming for 4.0 and I have retaken my DAT recently and scored 23AA 24TS.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

I would include it on the app....it will be more in your favor if they ask about it in an interview and you can explain what you learned about the situation vs them finding out about it after the fact and having them withdraw your acceptance...which has happened to posters here.

 

[hellofuturedentists]

I dont know I just want to shoot myself in the head.
For a little more details, back in 2013 I cheated on the test, had my eyes on someone else's paper.
The penalty was 75 hours of university service hours and double-weighted zero on that specific exam.
I ended up with a "C" for that course.
I just talked to the school and they said it doesn't show on my transcript, but it does remain under my record. In case where the school asks for the background check they will nicely tell them that I have been reported, but their student has grown up and will succeed blah blah blah.
I need some advice. I don't know what to do.
I'm starting my postbacc in the fall and Im aiming for 4.0 and I have retaken my DAT recently and scored 23AA 24TS.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

In that case, you should put it. I can't remember but maybe there was a place to elaborate a bit where you can say you did your service and took your penalty, etc. Also, side note, you probably can't put the service hours under community service if it was the penalty

 

[zriceman]

I dont know I just want to shoot myself in the head.
For a little more details, back in 2013 I cheated on the test, had my eyes on someone else's paper.
The penalty was 75 hours of university service hours and double-weighted zero on that specific exam.
I ended up with a "C" for that course.
I just talked to the school and they said it doesn't show on my transcript, but it does remain under my record. In case where the school asks for the background check they will nicely tell them that I have been reported, but their student has grown up and will succeed blah blah blah.
I need some advice. I don't know what to do.
I'm starting my postbacc in the fall and Im aiming for 4.0 and I have retaken my DAT recently and scored 23AA 24TS.

Any input would be greatly appreciated

I had an F and this happened to me in sophomore year and I got accepted to dschool after graduation. I was devastated and felt hopeless, but I still pushed forward. I was lucky to have been accepted considering I only had 2 interviews, but it did not prevent me from getting an acceptance. Time heals all wounds. Make sure you have owned up to your mistake and do not have any excuse when you explain this incident on aadsas. Don't make it too long either. Don't make this incident an area of focus on your app. Your DAT score will help, mine was much lower than yours.

You dont need to mention double weight zero. Just say you have to do community service and a 0 for the test as your punishment. And you blame no one but yourself.

I am applying to specialty programs now and I have to check "yes" to that question for the 3rd time. It kills me every time to be honest, but this is the RIGHT way.

Be strong, the world is not a fair place. Sooner you realize that, the better you will feel.

 

[qwerty934]

I had an F and this happened to me in sophomore year and I got accepted to dschool after graduation. I was devastated and felt hopeless, but I still pushed forward. I was lucky to have been accepted considering I only had 2 interviews, but it did not prevent me from getting an acceptance. Time heals all wounds. Make sure you have owned up to your mistake and do not have any excuse when you explain this incident on aadsas. Don't make it too long either. Don't make this incident an area of focus on your app. Your DAT score will help, mine was much lower than yours.

You dont need to mention double weight zero. Just say you have to do community service and a 0 for the test as your punishment. And you blame no one but yourself.

I am applying to specialty programs now and I have to check "yes" to that question for the 3rd time. It kills me every time to be honest, but this is the RIGHT way.

Be strong, the world is not a fair place. Sooner you realize that, the better you will feel.

Thank you very much for your advice.

I will be 100% honest with my mistake.. it will be very tough for me to get through this hardship.

Should I briefly talk about this misconduct in my personal statement or just include in AADSAS only?


Thanks!

 

[zriceman]

Thank you very much for your advice.

I will be 100% honest with my mistake.. it will be very tough for me to get through this hardship.

Should I briefly talk about this misconduct in my personal statement or just include in AADSAS only?


Thanks!

I didn't mention in my PS, only aadsas section