Hopeful vets with ADD/ADHD or another disability? How do you handle it?

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Hi all,
I needed to ask this because this has been on my mind a lot lately. I was diagnosed with ADD during my late teenage years. I have never received any form of help (no counseling, medication, or accommodations) for it because it's never been a burden for me from an academic standpoint. I've always found that as long as I study my butt off, mostly I can make the grades (I graduated with a 3.89 GPA).

However, I find that the ADD effects me a great deal when I'm in any non-academic setting (for instance, when I'm at work or shadowing/assisting a veterinarian). I have a lot of trouble with my focus, listening, and noticing things right in front of my eyes. Obviously, these are basic skills that anybody desiring a career in veterinary medicine needs to exemplify.

This is a definite issue and I've been looking into getting some help for these symptoms. I wanted to ask if there's anyone else here that has faced a similar struggle. How do you cope? Do you have any advice? I refuse to give up.
 
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Links to thread in a post of mine... within this thread. Read up!

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=805053

You definitely aren't alone. And you might want to speak with a doctor about trying some medication - you would be surprised how much easier it could make things, even if you are still capable of succeeding (academically) without it.
 
Hi.

If it makes any sense - I also have issues with seeing things "right in front of me" but I'm not sure if that's an ADHD thing. It certainly could be. In many environments, I tend to have a "poor filter" for visual and auditory stimuli such that I end up processing "a little about a lot" rather than "a lot about a little." This has its advantages to be sure - I have a tendency to pick up on and notice peripheral things while other people engaged in the same task as me are so focused on the task at hand that they miss these other things going on around them. However as you can imagine, it is not particularly conducive to the aforementioned sort of focus, and really there are a lot of things that go on that don't necessarily need to be noticed; essentially wasting processing power. SO what do I think this means to me as far as veterinary medicine?

If I were to go into clinical practice (which is not a likelihood for me to be honest) I would actually thrive in an environment with nearly constant stimulation in which my innate tendency and preference to divide attention is an asset. I'd do poorly in a situation that involves a lot of focus and repetition. However, most scenarios involve a mixture of those two things, so I do think it is essential to be able to direct focus more efficiently.

That all being said, no two people with ADD/ADHD are going to have the exact same problems with directing attention; strictly speaking all that an ADD/ADHD diagnosis implies is that there is some deficiency in properly controlling, organizing and directing attention. What works for me is medication, though it has a tendency to noticeably slow down my thought process. I also use really really visible and redundant methods of organization - 2 different planners, 3 calendars, etc, all with the same stuff written in them but in different conspicuous places so that I can't help but notice them at some point.

And as far as your academics go - I know you said you don't have problems in undergrad, but it is possible that vet school will be a whole different beast for you. It is more information coming at a faster pace, so just be aware of that when going into it with ADD.
 
Hi all,
I needed to ask this because this has been on my mind a lot lately. I was diagnosed with ADD during my late teenage years. I have never received any form of help (no counseling, medication, or accommodations) for it because it's never been a burden for me from an academic standpoint. I've always found that as long as I study my butt off, mostly I can make the grades (I graduated with a 3.89 GPA).

However, I find that the ADD effects me a great deal when I'm in any non-academic setting (for instance, when I'm at work or shadowing/assisting a veterinarian). I have a lot of trouble with my focus, listening, and noticing things right in front of my eyes. Obviously, these are basic skills that anybody desiring a career in veterinary medicine needs to exemplify.

This is a definite issue and I've been looking into getting some help for these symptoms. I wanted to ask if there's anyone else here that has faced a similar struggle. How do you cope? Do you have any advice? I refuse to give up.

I've worked with vets and techs who I believe had ADD. I don't think it is uncommon. People with ADD can do great things too. The fact that you are considering what to do about it is very smart on your part. I agree with the comment about using medication to help with focus. In the future, other people you work with including your future boss(es) will be interested in how well you do your job (clients/pets), how well you work with other vets and the staff, and how much they feel they can count on you in general. IMO it is important from people with ADD to get lots of feedback from the people they work with - I think it is difficult for people with ADD to know how they are doing with day-to-day work and really benefit from having opinion(s) from trusted co-workers and colleagues in the work place.

As you probably know, stimulants are usually used for ADD treatment and they can have some side effects and of course people with ADD need to remember to take their medication (irony). Meds that last the entire day and don't require remembering to take additional doses during the day are probably best. A prescribing physician who is familiar with these medications and even better, familiar with use in adults with ADD, is needed.
Kevin
 
Hi there, I can totally understand some of the concerns! I struggle with my ability to really hear what my professors/mentors are saying right in front of me. I can be standing in a clinic setting, with someone talking in front of me for three minutes and often not have heard a large portion of what they said. I fight this endlessly, and it has at times been EXTREMELY frustrating (and embarrassing). This first year of veterinary school was an incredible challenge -- it took me until about 1/3 of the way through the second semester to find a number of methods that helped, and perhaps they might help you as well....

For classes, the biggest thing that helped me (and literally changed my life) was acquiring the LiveScribe Pen. You may have read about it here on SDN, but it is legitimately unbelievably helpful. It has really changed my studying/calmness/grades. It records the lecture being given AND the notes that you are writing such that you can go back later and relisten to the whole thing and watch your notes as they are being written. Furthermore, you can tap on the notes on the page and it will go immediately to that spot in the recorded lecture without having to fast-forward/rewind etc. It allows you to hear what you missed, without having to necessarily re-listen to the whole thing. It has really relieved a lot of my anxiety that stems from my attention span. I find it's a vicious cycle that the more i miss, the more anxious I get, therefore the more I miss. But when I know that I won't miss anything (because I can go re-listen later), I tend to be much calmer, and therefore actually hear MORE than I did before, just because of that calmness allowing me to focus more. Also, it allows you to share your notes/recordings online so that friends can tap on the lectures too to hear the important stuff as well. Plus, my favorite, you can listen to lectures at faster speeds (which I do because I absorb better when the lecturers move faster -- easier for a mind like mine that is already moving far faster than it should be). I now take all my class notes in LiveScribe.

For live one-on-one, I've found a few things that are helping. One, is repeating more often, some of what people are saying (politely of course, ie "So.... can I make sure I got this correctly? You said that (sum up what they said).... is that right?") and whatever you missed, they can resummarize mistakes you might have made in what you said. I try not to do it too often, but if you do it at the breaks in topic, it won't be horribly out of place. You will find that some people may get impatient, but if you do it gently/politely, when they have gotten through a few minutes of talking, most people will give you the corrected version. It helps to keep you on track and by verbalizing the facts, the mind often absorbs them better.

Additionally, if you are working with someone you are becoming more comfortable with (someone you work with more than once), it can be helpful (though scary at first) to admit, "I am not always an auditory learner and I sometimes struggle with absorbing information when I have only heard it once... I apologize in advance, but I hope you don't mind, would you be willing to explain this (aspect/piece/topic) one more time? I sometimes need to hear things a couple of times." It seems simple, but can be really scary to ask/admit. It took me a long time to recognize some of my learning issues, and to be willing and able to express them to my professors without embarassment. The first response I got? "It's so great that you recognize your learning style. I'm happy to talk you through this."

You can also ask, "do you mind if I take some notes?" Sometimes taking a few notes (on a small pad) as they talk will help you pay attention, and help to solidify some of the information. Again, there are always a few exceptions to the rule, but most professors/mentors will appreciate you being honest, and respect that you know what you need and are willing to admit a struggle by asking for help. Most situations may not require even asking permission to take notes... but if you are at all concerned the professor/mentor might be offended, ask first.

Anyhoo, between LiveScribe, being more vocal, and taking more notes, I am finding some improvements. I hope these help you, and I am always open to more suggestions. Thanks for starting the discussion, it is helpful to all who deal with similar struggles. 🙂
 
Jill, thank you so much for mentioning the pen, I think it will be of great use for me. I also have ADHD... I haven't taken any meds so far but I think that ill probably need them to complete vet school:/
 
Hi guys,
Thank you for all of the thoughtful responses. You've really helped me to gain some more hope about being a successful veterinarian despite some of my weaknesses. I've also just started trying some medication, and it seems to be helping me. I haven't had a great deal of time to fully test it, but my processing speed seems to have sped up an appreciable amount.

Twelvetigers: Thank you for the links to the threads and the support. I read through them and it was really helpful to see how other people with ADD coped with veterinary school.

Nyanko: I agree that there are some strengths often associated with ADD/ADHD that can help offset some of the weaknesses. Depending on the situation, I can be pretty good at multitasking (as long as it's not too fast paced; then I'm awful at it). I also think I'm a lot more creative than other people.
And yeah, I've reflected on the fact that vet school might be a lot more difficult. I'm working on developing some organization strategies and seeing if the medication will help me significant amount. It's nice to hear from someone else who has ADD/ADHD.

Vetsincethe80's: Wow, I wasn't expecting to hear back from a well-practiced veterinarian. Thank you for taking the time to post a response. It's really nice to know you've worked with a lot of successful veterinarians/technicians with ADD. I think it probably would be a good idea to get as much feedback as I can, although I'm not completely comfortable telling people about it yet... I've just started to take a stimulant so hopefully it can help me a bit. You've given me a lot of hope, thank you.

Jill418: I looked up that pen, and it looks completely awesome! I wish I had known about it in undergrad, it would have saved me a lot of trouble with losing my notes. I am definitely getting one when I get into vet school. And thank you for all your other advice as well. It's really nice to hear how someone else with ADD copes and that you have been successful in spite of it.


Anyways, thanks everyone for the support. Hopefully this thread will help other people as well!
 
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