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and bed-ridden. I can't think of anything positive to say when they seem to have given up on life
Weirdoc said:and bed-ridden. I can't think of anything positive to say when they seem to have given up on life
Weirdoc said:and bed-ridden. I can't think of anything positive to say when they seem to have given up on life
Weirdoc said:and bed-ridden. I can't think of anything positive to say when they seem to have given up on life
Panda Bear said:Ah hell, just be yourself. If you aren't a compassionate person then don't try to fake it. Sometimes there is nothing positive to say and all you really need to do is your usual doctor stuff.
deuist said:\
...If you can't be a passionate person, then don't go into medicine....
Weirdoc said:and bed-ridden. I can't think of anything positive to say when they seem to have given up on life
As someone who has experienced depression firsthand, this is the best advice posted yet:Weirdoc said:and bed-ridden. I can't think of anything positive to say when they seem to have given up on life
Often the best thing anyone could do was to listen. Sometimes I vented, sometimes I talked about something competely different. You, as the student doctor, won't cure them. You can't solve the problem (clinical, financial, etc) that's making them depressed. But is your job to? Just be there, talk to them, ask them about...anything that pops into your head. If they start getting agitated, then steer away from that topic. Just giving someone a reprieve from their introspection is a wonderful thing.TinyFish said:...distraction is a very, very powerful tool. Many people who are depressed are extremely introspective at the time, and "taking them out of their heads" can help a lot, even if it's only for a little while...these things take one's focus away from his inner world and out onto something that bears no negative associations...
Amen, brother.Panda Bear said:Bull. "Passionate" is one of the most over-used and meaningless words on SDN. It means nothing as it's definition is either so broad as to be encompass everything or so specific that nobody can really live up to it.
Jocomama said:Also - not uncommon and something to consider: very structured, busy people become depressed or "out of sorts" when not working or in their schedule.
TinyFish said:Oh, one thing I forgot to mention about the post previous to mine.
Putting on a positive aura is important in some cases, but you have to keep a tight check on what you do and say. Being overly "positive," "cheery," or "chirpy" can be extremely, extremely annoying to a patient who is depressed. They can perceive an overly cheerful person as being fake, and they can take that sort of behavior as an insult. I used to interpet cheery people as phonies who had no respect for my problem, and I associated overly cheerful behavior as saying, "See? It's so easy to be cheerful. Why can't you be cheerful?"
It's okay to smile and be positive, but pay careful attention to patient to see how s/he takes it.
Weirdoc said:and bed-ridden. I can't think of anything positive to say when they seem to have given up on life
Weirdoc said:and bed-ridden. I can't think of anything positive to say when they seem to have given up on life
Sporky said:As an aspiring medical student (I actually typed "aspirin" before I caught myself)
I say to those of you here who are already doing it, "KBO", which in Churchillese means "don't quit". You are all in positions we aspire to.
As a missionary and minister of many years, I can say that there are times when I have not wanted to be positive and upbeat and I thank you for your honesty. Sometimes it is hard to be upbeat. One thing which helps me remain positive is the knowledge that there is a purpose in everything - we cannot always discern it, but it is there nevertheless.
The ancient Hippocratic oath to "do no harm" actually means a great deal more than just not hurting people. As a physician or student, you are a source of hope and encouragement to those for whom you are caring. Even really crappy doctors initially provide this - it just comes with the package.
Sometimes a simple greeting or touch can be a life-saving entreaty to a depressed or suicidal person. A kind word given in love can deter much anger and hatred. These are simple things which our world often forgets, but which can be powerful tools in the hands of doctors like yourself.
Here's hoping to be in your shoes and keep being honest and real and remember that you are having more impact on your patients than you may know.
Blessings,
Sporky said:As an aspiring medical student (I actually typed "aspirin" before I caught myself)
I say to those of you here who are already doing it, "KBO", which in Churchillese means "don't quit". You are all in positions we aspire to.
As a missionary and minister of many years, I can say that there are times when I have not wanted to be positive and upbeat and I thank you for your honesty. Sometimes it is hard to be upbeat. One thing which helps me remain positive is the knowledge that there is a purpose in everything - we cannot always discern it, but it is there nevertheless.
The ancient Hippocratic oath to "do no harm" actually means a great deal more than just not hurting people. As a physician or student, you are a source of hope and encouragement to those for whom you are caring. Even really crappy doctors initially provide this - it just comes with the package.
Sometimes a simple greeting or touch can be a life-saving entreaty to a depressed or suicidal person. A kind word given in love can deter much anger and hatred. These are simple things which our world often forgets, but which can be powerful tools in the hands of doctors like yourself.
Here's hoping to be in your shoes and keep being honest and real and remember that you are having more impact on your patients than you may know.
Blessings,
I am going to try tickling them.Panda Bear said:Gag.
stoic said:hey, i saw my first pt the other day who ask what i thought about Kevin Troudea's "natural cures." now THAT was hard to keep from laughing about. i think "con-artist" only escaped my lips one time.
Panda Bear said:Patch Adams my ass. You will be hated not only by your collegues but also by most of your patients if you try to whip some Patch Adams on them a la Robin Williams.
The medical profession is just not like that.
Laughter is not, repeat not, the best medicine. Vancomycin is.
Sorry.
Panda Bear said:Patch Adams my ass. You will be hated not only by your collegues but also by most of your patients if you try to whip some Patch Adams on them a la Robin Williams.
The medical profession is just not like that.
Laughter is not, repeat not, the best medicine. Vancomycin is.
Sorry.