How do you give presentation? What's your style during MS3?

[traxxradiorocks]

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Just wondering.
There are those who want you to give the full presentation and those who only want the pertinent negatives....
Is there a style that you use that can cater to both? Care to share?

Don't you just hate it when you get feedbacks about not having a ddx in mind when giving a presentation? Personally, I have been scorned for not giving a more complete presentation because a MS3 student is expected to give a more complete presentation. Likewise, I have been scorned for giving too much nonpertinent history/PE.

What do you guys think?

 

[Knicks]

Doctors ....



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[alwaysaangel]

On every rotation during 3rd year you don't get to have your own style. You pay attention to those before you and what your resident tells you to say and you present it like that. Every specialty has a different style. As does every attending. You just need to learn what each wants and you will do fine.

Then when you're older you can do the specialty you want and present a little more your style.

 

[metallo]

There's nothing wrong with asking what the expectations are on the first day you rotate with a particular attending, resident, etc. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, then just watch the residents' presentations and try to use that style. You can always tweak yours as necessary when you get feedback -- nobody expects you to be perfect as a third year.

 

[metallo]

Don't you just hate it when you get feedbacks about not having a ddx in mind when giving a presentation?

One other point... the vast majority of attendings will not want a full presentation. In that case, you need to be sticking to the pertient info only, and the best way to know what to include is to think about whether a certain history or physical finding is helping you rule in or out your differential diagnoses. If it is, it goes in your presentation. If it isn't, leave it out.

 

[Perrotfish]

You just need to change your style for every attending and resident. After my first couple of presentations I just flat out ask what they think I could do to 'improve' my presentation. So far everyone I've asked has given me a very clear idea of what they want.

 

[Ableton]

You just need to change your style for every attending and resident. After my first couple of presentations I just flat out ask what they think I could do to 'improve' my presentation. So far everyone I've asked has given me a very clear idea of what they want.

I ask them even before my first presentation if there's anything specific they prefer to hear. It makes my life that much easier.

 

[bawer234]

Best to ask the attending. I "perfected" my presentation skills for one of my attendings only to get my corn hole ripped to pieces in front of the entire team by my next attending for including the pertinent PMH in the HPI. You just roll with it and adapt to the style they tell you to present it in.

Bottom line, do your best to learn how to present good facts in a logical order while writing quality notes. The little details about EXACTLY where and when you should be talking about the ROS, Labs, ect is subjective and may change with each attending.

 

[TrojanGopher]

On every rotation during 3rd year you don't get to have your own style. You pay attention to those before you and what your resident tells you to say and you present it like that. Every specialty has a different style. As does every attending. You just need to learn what each wants and you will do fine.

Then when you're older you can do the specialty you want and present a little more your style.

This is so true

 

[Perrotfish]

I ask them even before my first presentation if there's anything specific they prefer to hear. It makes my life that much easier.

See, when I've done this they've always looked at me like I had a dick growing out of my forehead. The way they see it there's only one possible way you can reasonblely give a presentation (the way they like it) so asking how you should present is like asking which hole you should stick a sandwich in. On the other hand when I ask them to 'correct' my presentation they're more than happy to tell me exactly what they want.

 

[turkeyjerky]

See, when I've done this they've always looked at me like I had a dick growing out of my forehead. The way they see it there's only one possible way you can reasonblely give a presentation (the way they like it) so asking how you should present is like asking which hole you should stick a sandwich in. On the other hand when I ask them to 'correct' my presentation they're more than happy to tell me exactly what they want.

you just captured how I've felt since july--like I have a dick growing out of my forehead

hahaha...i think i'm gonna go f*ck myself

 

[Ableton]

See, when I've done this they've always looked at me like I had a dick growing out of my forehead. The way they see it there's only one possible way you can reasonblely give a presentation (the way they like it) so asking how you should present is like asking which hole you should stick a sandwich in. On the other hand when I ask them to 'correct' my presentation they're more than happy to tell me exactly what they want.

I'm a very laid back person, so the attitude I give off while asking them that isn't really one of sucking up... it's more along the lines of "tell me what I need to do so I can make your life easy and get the hell out of here."

Not every guy looks the same using the same pick up line you know 🙄

 

[mmmcdowe]

you just captured how I've felt since july--like I have a dick growing out of my forehead

hahaha...i think i'm gonna go f*ck myself

Sig worthy

 

[Beamer128]

You just need to change your style for every attending and resident. After my first couple of presentations I just flat out ask what they think I could do to 'improve' my presentation. So far everyone I've asked has given me a very clear idea of what they want.

This. If your attending doesn't give you feedback, ask for it EARLY so you have time to adjust your presentation to their liking.

 

[footcloud]

It's hard for emerg because you have a new attending each time. They seem to like it brief though, otherwise it's hard to tell really.

Any general tips? Some say to "tell a story".....

 

[Dirt]

Any general tips? Some say to "tell a story".....

For emergency I would say make it more of a haiku. Speed is of the essence.

one day neck stiffness
headache, photophobia
time to tap that $hit

repeat customer
pain, pain, pain ten out of ten
wants some dilaudid

pain and blood per rectum
found a kitchen utensil
how did that get there?

and so on and so forth.