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For those who are married/have children/work full-time AND are doing their pre-reqs, HOW DO YOU HANDLE IT?

I don't work but I have a 7 week old baby and a toddler. Next fall i'd like to take 14 credits or more and volunteer but i'm wondering if it will be too much as far as finding time to study efficiently.

A schedule could help but as we all know things always happen and could not go as planned.

How do you juggle your course load with the rest of your life?
 
The rule of thumb is three hours a week outside of class for every hour in lecture. So if 14 credits represents 9 hours a week in lecture, then you have to find roughly 27 hours a week to do the work. With discipline, you might find 2 hours in the morning, like from 5 to 7 and 2 hours in the afternoon while they nap, bringing you quite close. I would think you would have very little time to do much of anything else, such as personal time, housework, marriage maintenance etc. Certainly, unless the volunteer work included your kids, that seems like it would be a stretch.

My advice to you would be to take one class next semester so you could work out the kinks, figure out how much time you need to ace a class and how much time you can realistically carve out of your week. You can probably volunteer as well.

HTH. I took organic and biochem with one year old twins and a three year old while working full time.
 
The rule of thumb is three hours a week outside of class for every hour in lecture. So if 14 credits represents 9 hours a week in lecture, then you have to find roughly 27 hours a week to do the work. With discipline, you might find 2 hours in the morning, like from 5 to 7 and 2 hours in the afternoon while they nap, bringing you quite close. I would think you would have very little time to do much of anything else, such as personal time, housework, marriage maintenance etc. Certainly, unless the volunteer work included your kids, that seems like it would be a stretch.

My advice to you would be to take one class next semester so you could work out the kinks, figure out how much time you need to ace a class and how much time you can realistically carve out of your week. You can probably volunteer as well.

HTH. I took organic and biochem with one year old twins and a three year old while working full time.

Thank you! I want to take the MCAT next spring so i kind of have to take 2 courses next semester and if possible 3 or 4 because i am still missing both orgos and physics. I definitely would have to see how i can work that into my schedule though.
 
Just factor in that an mcat you are poorly prepared for is a wasted year, and a year without excellent grades is worse than a wasted year. Trust me, there are enough years in the world for you to get where you are going, and you won't always have a newborn and a toddler.

Best of luck to you on your journey!
 
Sleep very little and use all the time you're given. Skip a trip, use a babysitter...do anything to get that time in. This isn't just about the pre-reqs, this is about the big picture. Good luck.
 
Sleep very little and use all the time you're given. Skip a trip, use a babysitter...do anything to get that time in. This isn't just about the pre-reqs, this is about the big picture. Good luck.

In other words.. grind,grind, grind!

Thanks !
 
For those who are married/have children/work full-time AND are doing their pre-reqs, HOW DO YOU HANDLE IT?

I don't work but I have a 7 week old baby and a toddler. Next fall i'd like to take 14 credits or more and volunteer but i'm wondering if it will be too much as far as finding time to study efficiently.

A schedule could help but as we all know things always happen and could not go as planned.

How do you juggle your course load with the rest of your life?

I am a single mom of two boys, currently I'm a 3rd year medical student. I got divorced, and then went to undergrad - my youngest was 2 when I started undergrad and my oldest was 8. I did NOT work full-time through undergrad, instead, I worked 20 hours a week as a work study on campus which allowed me to have a work schedule that was very flexible around my classes, research, volunteer hours and shadowing. It also allowed me to be a mom to my boys easier. I took an average of 20 credit hours a semester.

I was lucky, in a way, that I didn't have to study all through undergrad - the pre-reqs, other classes and the MCAT just came together easily for me. I did study for organic chem 1 - as it was my hardest class in undergrad. However, the draw back to that was I never built good study habits for myself until I was in medical school - which was a problem at the beginning of medical school. As a result, I had a rocky start to undergrad (I got an 86 in anatomy because I simply didn't know how to study). So, my recommendation as far as studying goes is this -- obviously, if something comes easy to you, you won't need to study as much, but still figure out how you study best.

Time management is going to be the biggest issue for someone with a family, whether there is a spouse or not. Balancing a family and school isn't always easy - but, you CAN do it. Now that I'm in medical school, I find that I study primarily once my children are asleep - which has meant a lot of very late nights. It's not always a matter of the number of hours you put it - rather, the quality of the hours you put in. Study smart, study efficiently. Being able to pick out the important information is a major part of efficient studying. Often there is a lot of detail, that, frankly, isn't important - that true in both undergrad and medical school. Then, there are other times that the detail is what is important. Being able to recognize when the detail is important and when it's not is a major part of studying.

A basic example: If you are taking anatomy as part of your undergrad - which could help you in med school - learn things by compartments. The anterior compartment of the arm is the flexor compartment, meaning that it's main action is flexion. All the muscles are innervated by the musculocutaneous nerve from the 5th, 6th & 7th cervical spinal nerves. The muscles are biceps brachii, brachialis, and coracobrachialis. This is much easier than trying to memorize each muscle individually. Most of anatomy can be done in some form of grouping.
 
I am a single mom of two boys, currently I'm a 3rd year medical student. I got divorced, and then went to undergrad - my youngest was 2 when I started undergrad and my oldest was 8. I did NOT work full-time through undergrad, instead, I worked 20 hours a week as a work study on campus which allowed me to have a work schedule that was very flexible around my classes, research, volunteer hours and shadowing. It also allowed me to be a mom to my boys easier. I took an average of 20 credit hours a semester.

I was lucky, in a way, that I didn't have to study all through undergrad - the pre-reqs, other classes and the MCAT just came together easily for me. I did study for organic chem 1 - as it was my hardest class in undergrad. However, the draw back to that was I never built good study habits for myself until I was in medical school - which was a problem at the beginning of medical school. As a result, I had a rocky start to undergrad (I got an 86 in anatomy because I simply didn't know how to study). So, my recommendation as far as studying goes is this -- obviously, if something comes easy to you, you won't need to study as much, but still figure out how you study best.

Time management is going to be the biggest issue for someone with a family, whether there is a spouse or not. Balancing a family and school isn't always easy - but, you CAN do it. Now that I'm in medical school, I find that I study primarily once my children are asleep - which has meant a lot of very late nights. It's not always a matter of the number of hours you put it - rather, the quality of the hours you put in. Study smart, study efficiently. Being able to pick out the important information is a major part of efficient studying. Often there is a lot of detail, that, frankly, isn't important - that true in both undergrad and medical school. Then, there are other times that the detail is what is important. Being able to recognize when the detail is important and when it's not is a major part of studying.

A basic example: If you are taking anatomy as part of your undergrad - which could help you in med school - learn things by compartments. The anterior compartment of the arm is the flexor compartment, meaning that it's main action is flexion. All the muscles are innervated by the musculocutaneous nerve from the 5th, 6th & 7th cervical spinal nerves. The muscles are biceps brachii, brachialis, and coracobrachialis. This is much easier than trying to memorize each muscle individually. Most of anatomy can be done in some form of grouping.

Thank you for your post. It always helps to hear that a fellow mom of 2 could make it into medical school. I am worried it will be too much and my grades will suffer and thats the last thing i need right now.
 
For those who are married/have children/work full-time AND are doing their pre-reqs, HOW DO YOU HANDLE IT?

I don't work but I have a 7 week old baby and a toddler. Next fall i'd like to take 14 credits or more and volunteer but i'm wondering if it will be too much as far as finding time to study efficiently.

A schedule could help but as we all know things always happen and could not go as planned.

How do you juggle your course load with the rest of your life?

Hi Dportorreal,

I cant exactly relate completely but some. I was working part-time, commuting an hour each way to school full time to do my pre-reqs, in a relationship (we also have a dog) and volunteer stuff. So basically, time management and accepting my situation was different than a traditional student. I had to accept that I had limited time to study and to do the best that I could with the time that I had. In my interviews, I was asked about this and how I managed and looking back on it I think it will help me out in the future.

In terms of how much credits you should take depends on your comfort level. Have you taken a similar course load and ECs and are comfortable with the results? If so, then I think you should give it a shot and see how it turns out.

If you have any specific questions feel free to PM me.
Good Luck!!
 
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Thank you for your post. It always helps to hear that a fellow mom of 2 could make it into medical school. I am worried it will be too much and my grades will suffer and thats the last thing i need right now.

You're welcome. Also, I'm not the only parent, and not even the only single parent, at my school. Yeah, there are challenges - but, it is possible. Don't get discouraged, focus on your classes and being a good parent. If you can cut your hours at work, that may help you balance things.

Good luck
 
You're welcome. Also, I'm not the only parent, and not even the only single parent, at my school. Yeah, there are challenges - but, it is possible. Don't get discouraged, focus on your classes and being a good parent. If you can cut your hours at work, that may help you balance things.

Good luck

Thanks! Also, i dont work i just go to school. I guess that means i should really be able to manage huh?!
 
I have three kids and an hour long commute for classes 2-3 days per week. Thankfully I'm not working right now but will be volunteering after this term since my husband's schedule will be more settled.

You just learn how to make it work. It may mean studying at 11pm when all you can think about is your bed, missing school stuff for the kids and being the party pooper who doesn't want to go bowling on Sunday afternoon when you have an exam coming up. Do you have a support system around?
 
Yes. Sacrificing comforts, fun, and sleep. Not downloading candy crush to your cell is also crucial (or put another way, use every bit of time you have productively). I miss my family a lot (frequently and high in magnitude) and I have to miss out events with friends almost invariably. Sometimes, I have had to pull all nighters and then work right after classes the next day. Summarily: accept the sacrifices, make the best of the situation otherwise, and make it worth it by succeeding! Good luck, OP!!
 
I have three kids and an hour long commute for classes 2-3 days per week. Thankfully I'm not working right now but will be volunteering after this term since my husband's schedule will be more settled.

You just learn how to make it work. It may mean studying at 11pm when all you can think about is your bed, missing school stuff for the kids and being the party pooper who doesn't want to go bowling on Sunday afternoon when you have an exam coming up. Do you have a support system around?

Thank you. Yes i have a support system, my step mom helps out ALOT. They live across the street and my fiance also helps me often. He supports my decision so i hope he is ready for this ride.
 
Yes. Sacrificing comforts, fun, and sleep. Not downloading candy crush to your cell is also crucial (or put another way, use every bit of time you have productively). I miss my family a lot (frequently and high in magnitude) and I have to miss out events with friends almost invariably. Sometimes, I have had to pull all nighters and then work right after classes the next day. Summarily: accept the sacrifices, make the best of the situation otherwise, and make it worth it by succeeding! Good luck, OP!!

Funny you say that.. i actually stopped playing candy crush a couple of weeks ago. Im not much of a party person and im pretty much sacrificing now so i think i should be okay. Thank you!!!

Good luck to everyone here as well!!
 
For me, I didn't have kids until this last year (first baby came in september) and I'm graduating this week so only a few of my pre-req's were done with the full blow of things, but I have been married/working full time/schooling full time/volunteering/shadowing/clubbing(premed clubs of course) throughout my entire undergrad so I can say that it wasn't easy but it's worth it. You need to set a time that is study time. Basically, tell your spouse that from xyz time to abc time you will be in school/studying and please don't text or call unless it's an emergency. If you live close to the school, run home for lunch and spend some time with the kid(s) then go back to school and you are once again unavailable. Use that time you have set aside very wisely because it runs out quickly!

Edit: When I say use it wisely I mean, that 5 minutes you just spent on youtube JUST ONE video (then another then another) isn't coming back, the 10 minutes you spent JUST QUICKLY reading on SDN isn't coming back, and the 15 minutes you just spent looking up info and planning your upcoming climbing trip in a few weeks, that's not coming back either. (speaking from personal experiences...)
 
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For me, I didn't have kids until this last year (first baby came in september) and I'm graduating this week so only a few of my pre-req's were done with the full blow of things, but I have been married/working full time/schooling full time/volunteering/shadowing/clubbing(premed clubs of course) throughout my entire undergrad so I can say that it wasn't easy but it's worth it. You need to set a time that is study time. Basically, tell your spouse that from xyz time to abc time you will be in school/studying and please don't text or call unless it's an emergency. If you live close to the school, run home for lunch and spend some time with the kid(s) then go back to school and you are once again unavailable. Use that time you have set aside very wisely because it runs out quickly!

👍👍 We're in very very similar circumstances. Interestingly, we almost ended up classmates (KCOM).
 
For me, I didn't have kids until this last year (first baby came in september) and I'm graduating this week so only a few of my pre-req's were done with the full blow of things, but I have been married/working full time/schooling full time/volunteering/shadowing/clubbing(premed clubs of course) throughout my entire undergrad so I can say that it wasn't easy but it's worth it. You need to set a time that is study time. Basically, tell your spouse that from xyz time to abc time you will be in school/studying and please don't text or call unless it's an emergency. If you live close to the school, run home for lunch and spend some time with the kid(s) then go back to school and you are once again unavailable. Use that time you have set aside very wisely because it runs out quickly!

Edit: When I say use it wisely I mean, that 5 minutes you just spent on youtube JUST ONE video (then another then another) isn't coming back, the 10 minutes you spent JUST QUICKLY reading on SDN isn't coming back, and the 15 minutes you just spent looking up info and planning your upcoming climbing trip in a few weeks, that's not coming back either. (speaking from personal experiences...)

Thank you for your input!! Im definitely adopting all of your ideas for next semester and this summer.
 
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Rule 1: Take a Breath

This discussion brings out the point that many older students miss: logistics of life. You have to have a good handle on that, on support, on how it will all fall together.

Some of the points previously mentioned are worth repeating

1) Learn to be a student first. If you have been out of school for a while, these study habits are not needed simply get thru the prereqs but to be successful in medical school.

2) Dont bite off more than you can chew. I deal will students who want to fill the last rushed spring with Organic AND Lab AND Physics AND Lab AND have MCAT prep AND get LORs AND write their statements. Or worse, they try to Organic in the summer (it is brutal, I know I did it) THEN take an August MCAT THEN apply.

3) Find what will work for you and be disciplined about it.

4) there is a site MomMD that deals extensively with this subject .

Thank you for the great advice. I am one of those students who is trying to get Orgo w/ Lab Phys w. Lab in for the spring '14 as well as study for the MCAT. Mostly because i want to take the MCAT before 2015.

I definitely do need to figure out what works for me.
 
OP,

I'd suggest not taking more than two hard sciences (with labs) per semester. It's a hellava lot of work, and as someone who is married, with a mortgage and job, I can tell you it is and can be rough. It gets easier as you become more accustomed to it, but I'd cut that 14 credit hope down to 10 or whatever two sciences will give you.

I'm finishing up my classes and doing my MCAT study. Outside of this semester, I've worked 40+ for the past two years on this post-bac, doing the sciences.

It can be done, but it's hard when you have to choose between study and family. Go for strong time management, sacrificing trips/money and you can do it.
 
Thanks! Also, i dont work i just go to school. I guess that means i should really be able to manage huh?!
Yea, you really can make it. Stop making excuses. 🙂
 
hi
you don't need to worry its obvious and common thing with first baby but still you worry just appoint care taker or baby sitter it will make stress low .

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