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I can't carry on a conversation. Also I can't drink because of muh genetics. I feel like I should go to make friends but I know I would hate it
 
chillaxbro said:
I can't carry on a conversation. Also I can't drink because of muh genetics. I feel like I should go to make friends but I know I would hate it
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Stop trying to respond to the OPs query about socializing in med school; we've moved on. 😛
 
EMDO2018 said:
No its really annoying actually, when people call me immoral for being an atheist, while they do everything their bible says not to do
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So you hate your family (give you a pass as we all have different families), you don't want to converse with your classmates and wish to stay isolated, you're already being judgmental about your classmates, and you're mad that they think you're immoral bc you told them you're an atheist, and you see racism at every turn (saying something racist yourself)? Seems like u have a great 4 years ahead of you.
 
Winged Scapula said:
Stop trying to respond to the OPs query about socializing in med school; we've moved on. 😛
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Calling it a query is generous. More like a guy with a HUGE chip on his shoulder. He'll need another one on the other shoulder to balance it out.
 
chillaxbro said:
I can't carry on a conversation. Also I can't drink because of muh genetics. I feel like I should go to make friends but I know I would hate it
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Then do it anyways, bc you'll need it during MS-3.
 
Winged Scapula said:
At some point, you will (or at least most of us have) come across someone who doesn't - who thinks the umbilicus is the entry point, or who don't realize the mechanics of it all.
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I'm proud to say I've never come across such a person. I have a hard time believing you're trolling us, but you seriously met someone who thought the umbilicus is the entry point? Was this person an adult?
 
PL198 said:
I'm proud to say I've never come across such a person. I have a hard time believing you're trolling us, but you seriously met someone who thought the umbilicus is the entry point? Was this person an adult?
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I think she meant someone who doesn't know the proper way to satisfy sexual urges.
 
Ismet said:
Saw this on FB today and it reminded me of this exchange: http://m.tickld.com/x/next-time-someone-says-women-arent-victims-of-harassment-show-them
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Yeah, I was just kinda messing around yesterday. I guess you could call it semi-trolling. Funny thing is the way I met one of my previous girlfriends was by apologizing to her for all the men whistling and shouting inappropriate things at her. Initially I wasn't even trying to get her number or anything, I just felt bad for her and things just escalated.
 
Ismet said:
Saw this on FB today and it reminded me of this exchange: http://m.tickld.com/x/next-time-someone-says-women-arent-victims-of-harassment-show-them
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Here's just a few examples of how that link is *****ic:
1) Telling a rando you have a BF has nothing to do with harassment. Most women do it because it's simple, most men will immediately respect this claim and it doesn't require the woman to actually reject the guy directly. I'm pretty sure if someone is actually harassing a woman, they wouldn't talk about their significant other, they'd just say, "get away from me," and then elevate the issue from there if it isn't finished. So in terms of actual harassment, this isn't involved.
2) Groping is direct sexual harassment. I'm not sure there's anyone that somehow negates groping as harassment, but it was a nice addition to try to draw sympathy? "Yeah murder is real, I just got shot in the head and died."
3) The author of this could look up the definition of provocative. It requires dressing a certain way to acquire attention. As in, that was the persons intent by dressing that way. If that attention becomes a problem(ie becomes harassment) then the issue is handled as such. It's pretty clear to me that someone that purposefully dresses to attract attention is going to receive a higher amount of both good and bad attention than someone who does not. It's not slut shaming, it's just not being oblivious to the fact of someone's intent. It doesn't mean the woman is asking for it, it just means if she was being rational, she'd have understood that dressing proactively, by nature will result in a higher amount of both good and bad attention.
4) Cool down periods have nothing to do with public ownership. I'm not a proponent of them at all, but its another thing to blatantly misconstrue. If anything, it's public ownership of the administrators of the abortion, not the person receiving it, as they are the one with the regulations. No one is stopping a woman from doing that herself, but if she wants a medical abortion, then she would have to go through a provider, which has regulations. Thus those regulations aren't inherently about a potential "ownership" or her, it's of the providers.
5) I still don't know anyone that says women are never harassed. I've definitely seen it happen, and have literally stepped in when I was asked to. People commonly say that the issue is overplayed and talked about too frequently, which is completely different than saying it doesn't exist.

Typical emotional draw though.
 
PL198 said:
Here's just a few examples of how that link is *****ic:
1) Telling a rando you have a BF has nothing to do with harassment. Most women do it because it's simple, most men will immediately respect this claim and it doesn't require the woman to actually reject the guy directly. I'm pretty sure if someone is actually harassing a woman, they wouldn't talk about their significant other, they'd just say, "get away from me," and then elevate the issue from there if it isn't finished. So in terms of actual harassment, this isn't involved.
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No actually many of us wouldn't say, "get away from me". Many of us were raised to be "nice young ladies" who don't say anything rude to someone else, regardless of whether it's unwanted attention or a physical altercation.

Yes saying you have a BF is easier and doesn't require you to reject the unwanted attention which can (and often does) escalate. What woman here hasn't tried to reject some unwanted attention and been labeled a **** or a bitch? It's just easier to end the harassment before it gets to that level, and because it works because men respect others "property".
 
Winged Scapula said:
No actually many of us wouldn't say, "get away from me". Many of us were raised to be "nice young ladies" who don't say anything rude to someone else, regardless of whether it's unwanted attention or a physical altercation.

Yes saying you have a BF is easier and doesn't require you to reject the unwanted attention which can (and often does) escalate. What woman here hasn't tried to reject some unwanted attention and been labeled a **** or a bitch? It's just easier to end the harassment before it gets to that level, and because it works because men respect others "property".
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You wouldn't say that if it was actually becoming harassment rather than someone just approaching you? I think being a nice young lady would go out the door for most people in the event something becomes criminal.
 
PL198 said:
You wouldn't say that if it was actually becoming harassment rather than someone just approaching you? I think being a nice young lady would go out the door for most people in the event something becomes criminal.
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But you're conflating harassment with criminal behavior; it may certainly end up that way (and yes I think I could speak up were that to,ever happen - fortunately, I've never been in a situation. I considered criminal). What were talking about is the guy who just won't leave you alone, the one who thinks it's flattering to comment on your body or looks, or to touch you. Things that most wouldn't consider criminal.
 
Winged Scapula said:
But you're conflating harassment with criminal behavior; it may certainly end up that way (and yes I think I could speak up were that to,ever happen - fortunately, I've never been in a situation. I considered criminal). What were talking about is the guy who just won't leave you alone, the one who thinks it's flattering to comment on your body or looks, or to touch you. Things that most wouldn't consider criminal.
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That's harassment though, which is a crime and thus criminal... Not sure I'm following you here. Here's my thoughts on the situation and nice young lady response :
Guy coming up hitting on you: totally cool, nice young lady says " I have a BF," which is code for " move on buddy." Guy moves along and nothing happens. This wasn't harassment and nice young girl was still nice.
Guy coming up hitting on you, won't leave you alone, touches you, etc: that's harassment, and nice young ladies would say " GTFO" Nice young lady is still nice in my book.
 
PL198 said:
That's harassment though, which is a crime and thus criminal... Not sure I'm following you here. Here's my thoughts on the situation and nice young lady response :
Guy coming up hitting on you: totally cool, nice young lady says " I have a BF," which is code for " move on buddy." Guy moves along and nothing happens. This wasn't harassment and nice young girl was still nice.
Guy coming up hitting on you, won't leave you alone, touches you, etc: that's harassment, and nice young ladies would say " GTFO" Nice young lady is still nice in my book.
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She may still be nice, but I'd venture to guess her social etiquette leaves something to be desired. However, it is probably hard to "properly" handle incessant harassment.
 
RJGOP said:
She may still be nice, but I'd venture to guess her social etiquette leaves something to be desired. However, it is probably hard to "properly" handle incessant harassment.
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What do you mean? I don't even understand how this is up for debate. If someone is actually harassing you, you respond and you respond with purpose. I'm not sure some people understand the definition of harassment and that results in some of things featured on that website that was linked. What do you mean "leaves something to be desired?" Um someone's committing a crime against her, who in the world would judge someone poorly for saying "get away from me." it's not like she's shooting the dude in the face.

It's not proper etiquette to endure harassment or be gentle about it. I have no idea what you're trying to say.

No one is ever called a bitch for telling some dude that's actually harassing her to get away from her. From my experience, that happens when people would say "get away from me to a cold-approach," which is rude. Huge huge huge difference.
 
PL198 said:
What do you mean? I don't even understand how this is up for debate. If someone is actually harassing you, you respond and you respond with purpose. I'm not sure some people understand the definition of harassment and that results in some of things featured on that website that was linked. What do you mean "leaves something to be desired?" Um someone's committing a crime against her, who in the world would judge someone poorly for saying "get away from me." it's not like she's shooting the dude in the face.

It's not proper etiquette to endure harassment or be gentle about it. I have no idea what you're trying to say.

No one is ever called a bitch for telling some dude that's actually harassing her to get away from her. From my experience, that happens when people would say "get away from me to a cold-approach," which is rude. Huge huge huge difference.
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I agree that she is a victim of a crime in that situation, and I'm not criticizing what she said. I was just saying that whether or not she's a nice lady is irrelevant in that situation. It doesn't matter if she's a nice lady or not, she should still assert herself. But since you brought up the fact that she is still nice despite her vulgar response, which I agree with, I was just saying that her social etiquette is questionable. Those two qualities are not always correlated, and obviously the guy who was harassing her is both a douchebag and a social slob.
 
PL198 said:
What do you mean? I don't even understand how this is up for debate. If someone is actually harassing you, you respond and you respond with purpose. I'm not sure some people understand the definition of harassment and that results in some of things featured on that website that was linked. What do you mean "leaves something to be desired?" Um someone's committing a crime against her, who in the world would judge someone poorly for saying "get away from me." it's not like she's shooting the dude in the face.

It's not proper etiquette to endure harassment or be gentle about it. I have no idea what you're trying to say.

No one is ever called a bitch for telling some dude that's actually harassing her to get away from her. From my experience, that happens when people would say "get away from me to a cold-approach," which is rude. Huge huge huge difference.
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There is difference between legal harassment and what most women would would define as harassment.

If you honestly think that "no one" is ever called a bitch for telling off someone who is harassing her (or for even something as simple as "I'm not interested thanks"), then I'm not sure what else to say. You've just not seen it but it happens all the time. There are an awful lot of entitled men out there.
 
Winged Scapula said:
There is difference between legal harassment and what most women would would define as harassment.

If you honestly think that "no one" is ever called a bitch for telling off someone who is harassing her (or for even something as simple as "I'm not interested thanks"), then I'm not sure what else to say. You've just not seen it but it happens all the time. There are an awful lot of entitled men out there.
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Very good point. Also, even the legal definition of harassment is very subjective, let alone an angry woman's.
 
Winged Scapula said:
There is difference between legal harassment and what most women would would define as harassment.

If you honestly think that "no one" is ever called a bitch for telling off someone who is harassing her (or for even something as simple as "I'm not interested thanks"), then I'm not sure what else to say. You've just not seen it but it happens all the time. There are an awful lot of entitled men out there.
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I've had wives get in my face over their husbands approaching me, and me politely saying I wasn't interested or making small talk just in the interest of not causing a scene at a family event. People are cray
 
fancymylotus said:
I've had wives get in my face over their husbands approaching me, and me politely saying I wasn't interested or making small talk just in the interest of not causing a scene at a family event. People are cray
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Your intents were likely misconstrued. It's probably unsettling when someone sees their husband chatting with another young woman.
 
Winged Scapula said:
Let's be egalitarian about this: a man will also claim harassment when in reality its simply attention from someone he's not attracted to,
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Sorry, I wasn't trying to make it sound like its just women. Plenty of men are just as bad, if not worse,
 
Winged Scapula said:
There is difference between legal harassment and what most women would would define as harassment.

If you honestly think that "no one" is ever called a bitch for telling off someone who is harassing her (or for even something as simple as "I'm not interested thanks"), then I'm not sure what else to say. You've just not seen it but it happens all the time. There are an awful lot of entitled men out there.
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In what way? Legal definitions of crimes are always abstract for that very purpose. Anything you would ever call harassment would legally be harassment. If you're saying you're more strict, than that's by your own choice.

They're probably drunk, but yeah you're right. On the whole, I don't think the average person would call you that for saying "thanks I'm not interested."
 
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