SDN members see fewer ads and full resolution images. Join our non-profit community!

How serious are the boards?

Discussion in 'Dental' started by Faux, May 14, 2017.

  1. Faux

    Faux 2+ Year Member

    1,643
    1,206
    Jan 26, 2013
    Are we talking DAT level of specifics?


    I'm going through gross section of the decks and its making me relive my trauma of gross anatomy all over again.
     
    Snowmead, esqueleto and Advance like this.
  2. SDN Members don't see this ad. About the ads.
  3. distressstudent

    distressstudent 2+ Year Member

    1,007
    876
    Sep 3, 2013
    Isn't that the point
     
    CallMeDoct and wengerout like this.
  4. Typical Average Student

    Typical Average Student 2+ Year Member

    1,396
    1,625
    Jul 6, 2014
    Houston, TX
    idunno. You kinda-- you know... need it to be a dentist in the US.... or at least a legal one. :cool:
     
    Auntymarkovnikov likes this.
  5. Faux

    Faux 2+ Year Member

    1,643
    1,206
    Jan 26, 2013
    I read a few times you just need score higher than the lowest 10%. Just trying to gauge how much time I should really spend on this exam.
     
  6. gatsby121

    gatsby121 2+ Year Member

    191
    164
    Jan 20, 2014
    yeah its DAT level specific......however given that it is pass/fail and has a high first attempt pass rate its not nearly as stressful as the DAT was, for me at least. i studied for a week for boards part one and passed.
     
  7. Typical Average Student

    Typical Average Student 2+ Year Member

    1,396
    1,625
    Jul 6, 2014
    Houston, TX
    I was told by a 3rd year that it was fairly easy if you're in the top 50% of your class. There's just too much material to cover in such a short period of time. She said to do a quick review then take it as early of possible.
     
  8. TanMan

    TanMan New Member Dentist 10+ Year Member

    336
    485
    Jul 21, 2004
    Back when I took it... not too detailed. All you need is a week of cramming to do well. I remember taking a week off to cram and got a 90 (before P/F) on part I; same thing on Part II. If you're taking the WREB written portion (if it hasn't changed), I don't even think you have to study for more than a day.
     
  9. THS

    THS Articulating Disc Jockey 5+ Year Member

    518
    537
    Jun 20, 2012
    Louisiana
    Go through Decks once and you'll be fine.
     
    ncide, Mascota and Advance like this.
  10. fa_tth

    fa_tth 2+ Year Member

    79
    50
    Sep 7, 2015
    Also taking the boards this summer. Is it really that easy to pass that you can study for only a week? Going through First Aid / Decks makes it seem significantly more intimidating than that.
     
  11. Medin2017

    Medin2017

    763
    615
    Mar 7, 2017
    is it a dental related first aid or the same as the MD one? Thought FA was like the bible for USMLE? Didn't know boards would get that deep
     
  12. fa_tth

    fa_tth 2+ Year Member

    79
    50
    Sep 7, 2015
    NBDE 1 FA
     
    Medin2017 likes this.
  13. ncide

    ncide 2+ Year Member

    1,190
    1,226
    Mar 2, 2015
    This.
     
  14. hannah_hoac

    hannah_hoac 2+ Year Member

    648
    596
    Aug 20, 2014
    I, and other friends I studied with, only used First Aid, Youtube videos and old exams.
     
  15. toothdriller2k17

    toothdriller2k17 2+ Year Member

    237
    184
    Jul 16, 2014
    study and you'll be fine. decks are overkill in my opinion
     
    hannah_hoac likes this.
  16. Greyangel6

    Greyangel6 2+ Year Member

    303
    240
    Aug 8, 2013
    so this is just my experience but I regret buying deck because the exam didn't reflect what I studied in the deck. My school has a review course and that was the most helpful. I also went over ADA published exams that's on their website, that was very helpful as well. I had the NBDE1 mastery app that I went over twice, it helped a bit (maybe 7-8% of my total exam). Also for the biochem section, there's a booklet for it that's about 124 pages and it did help in a bunch of questions as well.
     
    hannah_hoac likes this.
  17. Faux

    Faux 2+ Year Member

    1,643
    1,206
    Jan 26, 2013
    Yeah I'm not liking decks too much. I was thinking about just going through sketchy micro/pathoma and some physio vids. Might be more time consuming but at least its more enjoyable.
     
    hannah_hoac likes this.
  18. PreDentTechySon

    PreDentTechySon 5+ Year Member

    79
    36
    May 13, 2011
    I've heard from a lot of people at my school that old exams are the way to go. I definitely plan on going through them, but my concern is being able to keep organized when I study (i.e. Having to switch from dental anatomy to micro to anatomical sciences etc.). Would anyone have any recommendations about First Aid or other material?
     
  19. Sidrap

    Sidrap Slum Lord

    25
    8
    May 20, 2017
    Seems VCU has taught us well (co 2018)...
     
    ncide likes this.
  20. wildzodiac

    wildzodiac 2+ Year Member

    475
    486
    Jun 4, 2014
    I am convinced that this exam has simply become a money thing after they changed it from pass/fail. With that being said, the majority of people I know who took it went into the exam, some studying for 2 months and others a week, and they all equally seemed to have felt like they failed the exam miserably. I remember going into the exam, taking it, and feeling the exact same way after studying solid for a good 4 weeks. When everyone gets the news that they passed, and trust me, pretty much everyone passes with the exception of 0-2 people per year out of a class of 130+, you will probably laugh while questing if they mixed up your student ID number with some other dental student in the country.

    Seriously though, go through decks once and don't spend too much time on one concept. Study for a few weeks, take the exam, feel like you failed, get the results, realize you passed, laugh, and carry on.
     
  21. fa_tth

    fa_tth 2+ Year Member

    79
    50
    Sep 7, 2015
    It easy to say that in hindsight but those weeks leading up the exam are intimidating as ****. Its hard to go into an exam knowing you know 60% of what you studied. It goes against the very nature of what 99% of us have been doing our entire lives. That said, I totally agree with you lol.
     
  22. free99

    free99 Moderator 5+ Year Member

    1,787
    716
    Oct 24, 2012
    This is so spot on
     
  23. Greyangel6

    Greyangel6 2+ Year Member

    303
    240
    Aug 8, 2013
    To keep your mind at east, I recommend focusing on clinical entry exams that you may have while waiting for your results. I did a quick analysis and found that if I didn't pass my clinical entry exams, I would delay my clinic entry by a month VERSUS if I didn't pass my boards and pass clinical entry exams, I wouldn't be delayed for clinic entry, I'd just have to work extra harder to find time to study and retake....
     
  24. Faux

    Faux 2+ Year Member

    1,643
    1,206
    Jan 26, 2013
    For those that passed, what scores were you guys getting on mastery ap?
     
    HelicaseInitiator likes this.
  25. The Anhedonia

    The Anhedonia pro Battlefield 4 player, OMFS hobbyist Dentist Physician 7+ Year Member

    983
    318
    Feb 18, 2009
    Boston
    It's P/F. you need to answer around 67% of the questions to pass. They do not update the questions routinely (and true to dentistry form are very poorly written). If you pay attention to your basic sciences and flip through a firstaid/dental decks x1 you will be adequately prepared.
     
    Daneosaurus and Big Time Hoosier like this.
  26. toothdriller2k17

    toothdriller2k17 2+ Year Member

    237
    184
    Jul 16, 2014
    you'll pass. only 1 person failed in 2018 and 1 in 2016...you'll be fine.
     
  27. FeralisExtremum

    FeralisExtremum SDN Gold Donor Gold Donor Classifieds Approved 7+ Year Member

    2,882
    3,134
    May 17, 2008
    According to ADA data:

    NBDE Part 1 Failure Rates:

    2010: 5.3%
    2011: 4.5%
    2012: 6.1%
    2013: 6.3%
    2014: 3.7%
    2015: 3.4%
    2016: 5.2%

    The test is administered to roughly 9-10k people annually, so only a few hundred students fail each year. Of the 9-10k people taking the exam annually, roughly 3k are not from accredited dental schools (i.e. foreign dental students) - most of the failure rate is attributed to these non-domestic dental students.
     
    Last edited: Jan 17, 2018 at 6:37 PM
    Medin2017 likes this.
  28. toothdriller2k17

    toothdriller2k17 2+ Year Member

    237
    184
    Jul 16, 2014
    yes, only 1 person a year fails, and it is possible to obtain data from 2018 o_O:claps:
    class of 2018 and class of 2016 at NYUCD****

    if i remember correctly, OP attends NYUCD
     
  29. Faux

    Faux 2+ Year Member

    1,643
    1,206
    Jan 26, 2013

    ub
     
  30. Garett24

    Garett24 2+ Year Member

    117
    115
    Nov 4, 2014
    Tallahassee
    very...VERY SERIOUS Plank-plank-ed-edd-n-eddy-24146324-259-194.jpg
     
  31. toothdriller2k17

    toothdriller2k17 2+ Year Member

    237
    184
    Jul 16, 2014
    oh, oops. either way, you'll be fine
     
  32. BioTic

    BioTic

    1,140
    444
    Dec 31, 2015
    What are decks?
     
  33. ncide

    ncide 2+ Year Member

    1,190
    1,226
    Mar 2, 2015
    They are a set of several hundred flashcards with NBDE questions on them. They have answers on the back as well as background information on the topic. You use them to study off of and they are quite extensive. They used to be the standard study method, but in recent years the NBDE mastery app has shown to be another viable alternative to the decks.
     
    Advance likes this.
  34. Bis-GMA111

    Bis-GMA111 7+ Year Member

    1,970
    122
    Nov 7, 2010
    how serious are the boards?

    you need to pass them to get licensed....and at my school (if i remember correctly) you need it to advance to the next class. so, very serious.

    you're smart enough to get into dental school, so your study habits should be decent. give yourself enough time and read through review guides and class notes.
     
    ncide likes this.
  35. HelicaseInitiator

    HelicaseInitiator 2+ Year Member

    81
    70
    Sep 28, 2015
    I know they say that the passing rates are extremely high, however my school had extremely high (around 20%) fail rate for NBDE part 1. Its quite unnerving when we are given about 2.5-3 weeks of our summer break to study for boards...
     
    Advance likes this.
  36. Advance

    Advance The Unholy 2+ Year Member

    1,692
    2,378
    May 9, 2014
    Texas
    Jeeze. What school is this?
     
  37. BioTic

    BioTic

    1,140
    444
    Dec 31, 2015
    Don't worry about it Texas. I wouldn't want a person living in paradise with basically 0$ debt to be worried. Damn Texas.
     
    Advance likes this.
  38. Advance

    Advance The Unholy 2+ Year Member

    1,692
    2,378
    May 9, 2014
    Texas
    Yeah it's pretty great. A&M actually pays their students to attend. Every student that gets accepted receives a scholarship that covers the full COA. Here's the kicker, we don't even have to study. They only accept the best of the best applicants. A majority of the students come in knowing absolutely everything to pass NBDE1 before they even set foot in the classroom. Just having a DDS from A&M guarantees you a spot in any residency program in the country regardless of your rank or exam scores. A&M truly is the best dental school in the country.:)
     
  39. BioTic

    BioTic

    1,140
    444
    Dec 31, 2015
    Yeah ok Texas
     
    Advance likes this.
  40. free99

    free99 Moderator 5+ Year Member

    1,787
    716
    Oct 24, 2012
    No kidding? The most recently published nbde part 1 failure rate was about 3%. 20% is way over the national average, are you sure that number is accurate? [​IMG]
     
    Incis0r likes this.
  41. HelicaseInitiator

    HelicaseInitiator 2+ Year Member

    81
    70
    Sep 28, 2015
    Yes it was around 20% I know it's extremely high... I take my test in a week right out of first year!
     
    Advance likes this.
  42. Big Time Hoosier

    Big Time Hoosier Man. Myth. Legend. Dentist 2+ Year Member

    522
    1,148
    Jan 26, 2015
    Welcome to the Thunderdome!
    At least you have that. My school gave us 1 week of dedicated study time.

    Big Hoss
     
  43. mrtha pantoja

    mrtha pantoja 2+ Year Member

    55
    4
    Dec 8, 2014
    Is somebody planing to take NBDE part 1 this year?
     
  44. free99

    free99 Moderator 5+ Year Member

    1,787
    716
    Oct 24, 2012
    I think someone prob is
     
  45. BluntForceTrauma

    BluntForceTrauma 2+ Year Member

    327
    383
    Dec 1, 2013
    Boston, MA
    Lawl

    Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk
     
    free99 and Advance like this.
  46. Faux

    Faux 2+ Year Member

    1,643
    1,206
    Jan 26, 2013
    Forgot all about this thread. I passed it last summer but spent way too much time studying for it. Should have gave my self 2 weeks at most. Studied for most of the summer and I'm practically burning out at this point.
     
    Advance likes this.
  47. sjdent17

    sjdent17

    13
    2
    Tuesday
    Can you share how you would prepare for it for 2weeks plz? Thank you so much


    Sent from my iPhone using SDN mobile
     
  48. hellopeople

    hellopeople 7+ Year Member

    587
    23
    Dec 7, 2008
    Michigan
    If you go over you dental decks once you will be fine. The boards are a joke. The regional clinical exams are slightly harder, and they will charge you a grand or so for each part you have to retake.
     
  49. Advance

    Advance The Unholy 2+ Year Member

    1,692
    2,378
    May 9, 2014
    Texas
    I just used the Dental mastery app primarily for about 12 days and did a few old released exams and passed.
     
  50. mrtha pantoja

    mrtha pantoja 2+ Year Member

    55
    4
    Dec 8, 2014
    smart person congratulations, you will do a good dentist in this country too.
     
  51. sjdent17

    sjdent17

    13
    2
    Tuesday
    Did you buy the premium version? ImageUploadedBySDN1516300916.191340.jpg
    Is this app the one you mentioned?
    Thank you for the answer


    Sent from my iPhone using SDN mobile
     
    Advance likes this.

Share This Page