how to defeat burnout when you have a full time job

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Hi all,

I'm a 28-yo nontraditional student. I have a full-time job, and have been doing a DIY postbacc for two years. As the finals are approaching in two weeks, I'm becoming increasingly anxious and stressed out. I'm taking ochem3 with lab and calculus 1 this quarter, both are challenging and time-consuming. Worse, my daytime job is very demanding lately. Every evening when I arrived home, I feel my brain is on strike. I need to summon up lots of energy and willpower to pull myself out of the couch and sit in front of the books. Every time I had an unproductive evening, I would feel guilty and get depressed. Dear fellow nontrads (especially those who works full-time), do you have any ideas how to fight this burnout? I can't quit this job, and I need to perform well so the employer would sponsor me applying for permanent residency.
 
I am also a full time worker taking med school pre reqs, so I know the struggle you face. I work midnights so I am always tired. It takes a lot of motivation to do what you are doing. Always keep the end goal in mind. There are sacrifices to be made, and this is only the beginning.

Make your study space as motivational as possible. Famous quotes, inspirational leaders, physicians you admire, etc. Try to create an environment that drives you to succeed and reminds you of why you are doing what you are doing, instead of being on that couch. It has helped me along the way.

Hoping for others to chime in, would love to hear other perspectives.
 
Also, the GC will take ~2 years even with Eb2 and not being from India, China, or Philippines. So get started asap. You could probably take your time or take a break with your classes if you figure out the GC timeline. You'll have a more competitive application with a GC than as an international. (Though it's possible, I got accepted without the GC.)
Pardon me, what GC stands for?
 
Hey, so I also work full-time and go to school. I'm actually a graduate student at a university about an hour and half to two hours away (depending on traffic and road construction) from where I live and work. Work full-time and school is not an easy thing to do, especially if you have a job that's either physically or mentally taxing.

The first 4 years of doing this graduate program I worked nights across the weekend (say thurs, fri, sat, sun 10 hr shifts) and would get off work Monday morning, get some food and drive up for class all day Monday. Crash hard all day Tuesday. Class on Wed. Then shift back to a night schedule for Thurs. It started off pretty well, but by the end of the third year I was pretty burned out and really struggling. I wasn't enjoying my job as much, and was just dreading driving up there. I was hoping to finish in 3-4 years, but I decided to slow it down a bit do give myself a more relaxed schedule. I could have gotten done faster if I took classes through the summer, but I decided not to and I'm glad. I really think my grades or sanity would have suffered if I tried to go straight through year round.

That Nov. starting my 4th year I decided I needed to get off the night shift even if it made taking classes harder. An opportunity for promotion came up and I applied for the position and got it, started in spring. It's a lot more responsibility and instead of working 40 hrs a week it's more like 50 some weeks. I'm pretty worthless when I get home, but I enjoy what I'm doing now so it helped immensely with the burnout.

This spring semester I had that work schedule plus 3 graduate classes and I tried to have a schedule where I'd work on class stuff on Mondays, Tues, Friday, and Saturdays. (Wed was commute day and after that I would just crash after work Thurs). But I found I just struggled to be productive on days I worked, then I'd feel guilty that I wasn't being productive and so on. So I decided to try and give myself permission to just study on the weekends and let myself read novels, or watch TV shows on weeknights. I wasn't sure how that was going to go, especially since using my weekends for schoolwork instead of a break sounded crappy. But it actually turned out well. I was able to train myself not to feel guilty for not being productive on weeknights (there were weeks where I still had to do stuff during the week) and I actually found that since I was more productive and not exhausted on the weekends, I was more efficient and got stuff done faster than I seemed to when I tried to do it after work. So even though I was doing most of my coursework during the weekend, I still had time to hang out with friends and relax on the weekends as well.

Take home points:
1.) Give yourself breaks, like summers off if you need to. This is a marathon, not a sprint. ( should note that I'm 32 so I do feel the pressure to get on to the next stage)
2.) Shift gears if you need to. Switching positions at my job made a heck of a difference even though it involved me working more hours. I really like what I do so it's less stressful overall.
3.)Try rearranging your schedule. If you're too exhausted to be productive after work, try studying in the morning or if the course allows it, just do it on the weekends. If you do that and still get done what you need to, then the guilt will fade away eventually.
4.) regular exercise seems to help me a lot when it comes to burn out so I recommend finding time, even 20 minutes to just do some cardio and burn off some steam a few times a week. it seems like you wont' have time, but again it helps with attention span and efficiency and you wind up better off.
 
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And as another full time worker, and almost full time student, I have to say to make sure to take a little time for yourself every day to recharge. Even if it means 30 min less studying it is worth it. I find I could spend hour's of wasted time if my head isn't right while studying, where as taking 30 min/hour to go for a run/ride/workout resets me, and I can salvage more productive time then if I just tried to power thru. Take some time for yourself, let yourself watch tv/sit on the couch, plan for it, and you will feel less guilty.

I did MCAT prep classes/physics III/Ochem II, and worked 40-50 hours a week, so I know how the crunch goes, but just know you can get thru it.
 
I'm just here to give you solidarity and not advice. Same thing happened to me. Had a very taxing and stressful job and really struggled to mcat study and later study for one class. Luckily the stressful job was near the end of my pre med time right before applying, so all the other things were out of the way. It was bad. Ug. I know how you feel. All I can suggest is a different job but I get that green card stuff may complicate that.
 
When I was in my undergrad, I worked over night at a hospital on weekends, and went to class while working as a ranch hand and tutoring during the week. All in all, I was working about 80-90 hours a week and taking 12-14 hours a semester. All I ever told myself was that I had to make it through the crap to get to the other end. I didn't like coming from a family that was dirt poor and lived next to crack houses that made meth, but it was the cards I was dealt. There's no sense in dwelling on bad times because they will absolutely end if you put in the work and effort. I was told several times that I would never amount to anything, much less get into medical school, but here I am waiting to start DO school in the summer. Absolute strength of will can help tremendously! It's how I got into medical school, it's how I went from 315 pounds to 157, and it's how I plan to live my life. You can do this!
 
I'm in solidarity. I took a break. And now as I push through F/T job, physics, MCAT prep, AMCAS app, family, and volunteering - I give myself one full day to sit in sweat pants and eat ice cream (without bacon) ... or go jet skiing or play video games without any guilt.

The day gives me the 100% freedom from anything mental and I generally find myself happier, able to get back at it the next day.
 
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