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Discussion in 'General Residency Issues' started by Angry Mouse, Mar 3, 2004.
Do you guys have any tips?
1. Fax machine
2. Get as many office and PD telephone numbers now in the field you'll be scrambling for (because the list may have some to many inaccurate numbers)
3. Don't try to log in to the NRMP site for the list; it will be emailed to you (at least, it was last year), and you will get the list that way (as a PDF file). I got it at about 12:02pm, and had my spot that I scrambled for by 12:20.
4. When you consider the places, the big names will get calls from everyone. If there is a lower-tier place you would be happy at, call them first. A bird in hand is worth two in the bush.
5. Don't be a spaz on the telephone. Be concise and to the point (since, for many PD's, scramble day can be the worst day of their lives). It's actually more chill than you might expect. And, if you get a PD on the phone, have a ready, concise answer for: "Why are you scrambling this year?" (And if you numbers are weak, say that: "My numbers aren't strong, but I am; my recommendations show that")
So, do you get started with faxing CV etc before even knowing if you matched successfully ??
You find out Monday IF you matched (not WHERE). If you DON'T match, on Tuesday you get the list at noon.
Does anyone know when the hospitals get their list. The reason I am asking is for someone like me with only 3 program on the list, I could probably ring the hospital 1 2 &3 by 15th and confirm it..
how can you already know that you have to scramble? i thought we find out on march 16th???
If he didn't rank any programs he knows he needs to scramble.
If the hospitals disclose before noon Thursday, they run the risk of being dumped from the NRMP. That is a big violation. I know programs find out on Monday at noon if they filled or not, but I don't know if they get specifics on whom.
This is the info from the ERAS site on the Scramble this year:
> Contact Programs <
If you are unmatched, you should telephone the program
director of programs with unfilled position(s) before
sending any information. Program directors will tell
you whether they wish to receive documents via ERAS,
via e-mail, or via fax.
> Scramble Dates <
This year's Scramble runs from 12:00 noon on Tuesday
March 16 to 12 noon on Thursday March 18. During this
time, the Scramble version of ERAS will be available.
Note that the MyERAS web site will be closed for one
hour, from 11:00 am to 12 noon on Tuesday March 16,
to facilitate the cutover to the Scramble version.
> Before Scramble <
In the next few days, you should access MyERAS and
confirm that the information in your Profile is
up-to-date. You may also want to look at your
Personal Statement to see if you should create a
new one for Scramble.
Print out NOW - copies of your Application, CV and
Personal Statement in case you need to fax these to
programs during Scramble.
> Scramble ERAS <
You may use MyERAS to transmit your application
to no more than 30 programs during the scramble period
(12 noon on Tuesday March 16 to 12 noon on Thursday
March 18, 2004).
There will be no ERAS fees charged for applications
transmitted during this time.
Note that 30 programs is an absolute maximum - you will
not be able to apply to more than 30 programs via ERAS
during the scramble period, even if you are willing to
pay a fee to do so.
> Applying to Programs <
During Scramble, select the programs you wish to apply
to as normal. They will appear on your
"Programs - Selected" list. Click on the button
'Apply to Selected Programs'. You will see an invoice
with zero ERAS fees. From this screen, click on the
button 'Apply to Selected Programs'. This will process
your application to the residency programs.
Once you see these programs on your "Programs - Applied
To" list, you know your applications have been processed.
> USMLE Transcripts
The National Board of Medical Examiners (NBME) and the
Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG)
will process USMLE transcript requests received during
the scramble period. Applicants who have not previously
requested electronic transmission of USMLE transcripts
through ERAS will be charged the $50 NBME/ECFMG fee.
Applicants who have already transmitted scores via ERAS
will not incur additional USMLE transcript fees.
> Applicant Document Tracking System (ADTS)
Due to the extra load ADTS reports place on the ERAS
database, ADTS will not be available on the
first day of scramble.
> Post Scramble
At 12 noon on Thursday March 20, the Scramble version of
ERAS will close. Any programs applied to after that time
will incur normal ERAS charges.
I hope that this helps!
okay, I didn't match. I'm okay with it. But now I'm going have to scramble. So basically we just call the program directors tomorrow and talk to them right? Would love to hear from someone who's been there before. Also would you try and scramble into a program that you loved during the interview, but didn't match at???
Ok bad news. I did not match.
How do I scramble from tomorrow- can I reapply through ERAS or is it only faxing.
I didn't scramble so I can't give you alot of details about the process, but I can tell you that there is a very good chance you could scramble into a program you interviewed at.
THey already have your paperwork, they've interviewed you and you have already interviewed them. Taking you over someone sight unseen would be pretty attractive to most PDs.
I didn't match either so I'm feeling your frustration/pain. My question is the same as yours so please let me know if someone gives you some info. I emailed my med school's dean's office a few minutes okay because I've been out of medical school for 2 years now and she basically told me that we can start calling PD's at 12 pm (EST) and then they will tell us how to send the info to them. I'm praying it can be sent via ERAS because I don't have a fax and do not feel like making the 2 hour trip back to my medical school.
also would you consider scrambling into a program where you didn't match???
^^ AnneMD, i'm sorry to hear you didn't match, but now is not the time to just sit back. buy, borrow or steal a fax machine NOW. do NOT sit on this. if you need to drive 2 hours to your medschool, please do it. one more day of work will determine your future.
those who didn't match, please read the other thread on scrambling ("scramble 2004"), there are some good tips there. have copies of your cv ready to fax. i think most programs will be able to dl your info off of eras. BE PREPARED. have cell ready, fax ready, open phone line ready.
i've been through the scrambe, so i understand how you feel. i was sick, wanted to throw up, but in the end, i ended up in a better program than if i had matched. it will work out. have faith. good luck.
I talked to my RC today and she says she does'nt know if we went filled or not yet, prolly find out tomorrow.
I haven't been through scramble either, but... if you interviewed and didn't match, either you didn't rank them or vice versa... Although having met you would prob be more attractive than going with someone sight unseen, I wonder if that would be an uncomfortable situation... just a thought.
Good luck to all who are scrambling!
if you go to the NRMP page and look at your reports you can find the number of programs in the various regions that didn't feel by specialty. For example, in the country there are 100 pediatrics programs that didn't fill this year with only 49 being in the south--the area of the country that I want to go. I guess we will have to wait for the list for actually programs
does anyone want to post the regional reports, since not all of us are seniors? just curious..
Your school should be a valuable asset for this. They should be on the phone trying to find you a slot too. They may also have some backdoor connections. It would probably be worth going to school for the day if you have a good administration.
Does anyone have any info on how many IM progs did not fill this year? Thanks in advance...
I hate to burst your bubble but that report states the number of POSITIONS, not programs. That is there are 100 positions in peds left unfilled not 100 programs. Good luck.
Could anyone tell me if the program is going through match and I have applied through ERAS do I really need to fax the CV again.
I would not leave anything to chance at this point. If you have even a shred of doubt, that should be telling you something...best to act on the side of caution. I would fax your info again, even if you applied through ERAS before. My guess is that program directors sift through hundreds of apps, and to be able to pull out one from that huge stack at a moment's notice...they should be able to, but it can't hurt to be proactive, either. Good luck!
thanks In2b8...for the clarification. ..that was most certainly a typo...but thanks anyway...
thanks for the luck too...I'm hoping that with 49 positions in the south..I might just end up in one..
As others have noted, BEG BORROW or STEAL a FAX. If you don't want to drive back to your medical school, surely you can find a fax locally - check your local Kinkos or other Business Supply store. Some will even rent Faxes so you can do your work in the comfort of your own home.
This is too important to rely on ERAS (ie, you should be contacting programs and they may ask you to send stuff right away).
thanks y'all. my new fax machine is on it's way...but it will be back in the box and back in the store tomorrow. the only source of worry is my USMLE transcript and my school transcript. I'm going to fax my degree instead...unfortunately...I can only fax my USMLE scores (which are going to come out screwy because it will have that "copy not original" marking on the paper..or else I'll have to send it through eras. But I have everything else. I'm just praying that this will be enough. Thanks for the luck and the support. Good luck to all
Jani, I hope you found a position. Just wanted to tell everyone I got a position. Scramble is the worst experience imaginable. I think I didn't start breathing until after I got confirmation of a slot. Thanks again for everyone replying to my questions, especially those who kept insisting I get the fax machine. I really needed it because ERAS is a piece of crap when it comes to scrambling. Good luck to everyone during intern year.
just wanted to let everyone know I got a slot. scrambling is the worst experience imaginable, but I think I ended up in a really good spot. It doesn't matter, I would have taken anything at this point because peds did very well this year. I want to thank everyone for your replies and your good wishes. Especially the part about the fax machine...you really do need it because ERAS is a piece of crap when it comes to scrambling. Good luck everyone. Thanks again
so where did you match?
Congrats! Remember this experience and return at this time next year to provide your help and advice to others in the same situation.