How to put up with other people's judgement

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So yea as we know people have started to get acceptances today. I see them posting on Facebook. And I'm happy for them. I personally am OK with how my application cycle has been going. I have several interview invites, but haven't attended any yet so obviously I wouldn't be hearing anything today.

But after all these people have been posting about their acceptances, a bunch of people have been asking me if I've heard back from anywhere/gotten accepted. And I have to give that awkward "no, not yet but hopefully soon" answer. And when I say that, it seems like they start to judge me negatively, like I'm not good enough to have an acceptance. They sort of give that ingenuine "oh, maybe...you never know" answer in return.

I guess I can't blame them too much since they don't know how medical school admissions works. But it sucks to be judged like this and compared to all the people that have acceptances today. And now I'm starting to envy them. How do you put up with that negative judgement?

Again, I'm fine with how my application cycle has been going (could be better, but I'm sure other people would happily trade spots with me). I just can't stand being compared and judged like this by all these other people.
 
But after all these people have been posting about their acceptances, a bunch of people have been asking me if I've heard back from anywhere/gotten accepted. And I have to give that awkward "no, not yet but hopefully soon" answer. And when I say that, it seems like they start to judge me negatively, like I'm not good enough to have an acceptance. They sort of give that ingenuine "oh, maybe...you never know" answer in return.

I hear ya. People who ask subconsciously know they're adding to your stress levels.

I recently told my mom and brother not to ask about the process anymore. I told them I'd let them know when the outcome is certain.
 
Don't let others' opinions/thoughts about you affect your own perception of your successes or failures. In your case, just tell your friends that you haven't even gone to any of your interviews yet. I, too, am anxiously waiting for decisions as I read SDN people getting accepted to schools and while I'm happy for them, I become more and more anxious for my acceptance/rejection/waitlist decisions. However, I remind myself that I have 17 MD interview invitations and in a very comfortable position and I just have to wait until the time comes. You have to trust your yourself and not let others' success and perceptions affect your self-confidence.
 
Don't worry about what other people think. You know your worth. In a couple weeks/months from now you very well may be posting about your own acceptances and all those who judged you will probably be congratulating you.

And honestly, out of sight out of mind. If it bothers you, stay away from facebook or social media for awhile and focus on acing your upcoming interviews 🙂.
 
As others have said it can be difficult (especially when it comes from family) but this is a perfect chance to learn how to let other opinions not affect you. There's a multitude of people out there that seem to enjoy putting down others and life is too short to let them have any control over your life. 👍 keep up the good work; interview invites mean you've done a lot right so far.
 
I, too, had tell my parents to stop e-mailing me about med school. Like seriously, they love sending me emails going, "Ooooh, look at the stats of this school," or "Have you heard back from School XXX yet?"

Just stay off Facebook if you can. Otherwise just say, "Not yet, but hopefully soon. By the way, how's your life going?" And turn it back on them. :meanie:
 
And turn it back on them. :meanie:

Yeah, turn the tables on those punks! just kidding, but in all seriousness this is a big reason why I got off of facebook 4 years ago. So much of the time, its just a way for people to humble brag about their lives and basically project to the world whatever person they wish they were. Not everyone uses it this way, but I just got fed up with everything. If you have multiple interviews, you're doing awesome, and none of those other dummies have any clue how this process works.
 
So yea as we know people have started to get acceptances today. I see them posting on Facebook. And I'm happy for them. I personally am OK with how my application cycle has been going. I have several interview invites, but haven't attended any yet so obviously I wouldn't be hearing anything today.

But after all these people have been posting about their acceptances, a bunch of people have been asking me if I've heard back from anywhere/gotten accepted. And I have to give that awkward "no, not yet but hopefully soon" answer. And when I say that, it seems like they start to judge me negatively, like I'm not good enough to have an acceptance. They sort of give that ingenuine "oh, maybe...you never know" answer in return.

I guess I can't blame them too much since they don't know how medical school admissions works. But it sucks to be judged like this and compared to all the people that have acceptances today. And now I'm starting to envy them. How do you put up with that negative judgement?

Again, I'm fine with how my application cycle has been going (could be better, but I'm sure other people would happily trade spots with me). I just can't stand being compared and judged like this by all these other people.

Your situation is lightyears better than a lot of others.

Try to change your outlook on the way people view you/life etc.
 
I know that my current situation is good. Sure, it could be better (still waiting to hear good news from schools in my current geographic location), but at the end of the day I'll take the 4 II's that I have so far.

It's just all the judgement that's bugging me. I know I shouldn't listen to other people's opinions but I can't help it. I'm a really self-conscious person and its just the way I am/have been. For years I just have a tendency to worry myself about what others think about me and how they compare me to other people they know.
 
I know that my current situation is good. Sure, it could be better (still waiting to hear good news from schools in my current geographic location), but at the end of the day I'll take the 4 II's that I have so far.

It's just all the judgement that's bugging me. I know I shouldn't listen to other people's opinions but I can't help it. I'm a really self-conscious person and its just the way I am/have been. For years I just have a tendency to worry myself about what others think about me and how they compare me to other people they know.


I definitely hear you. Especially when multiple friends around you won Rhodes, Soros, and other prestigious awards, and they ask you what your plans are for the upcoming year(s), it can be worse. Their ECs and numbers seem light years ahead of mine, and I feel "not good enough" for their standards or my ideals.


Here's what I did. It is all about perspectives.

1) Tell yourself that it is normal to be self-conscious and disturbing to be feeling "not good enough," because all of us here have very high standards and pursue for the best outcomes like being accepted today/this week. And when we don't meet such standards, we feel discouraged and have self-doubts. This is a normal process. Simply take a note that you have high standards to achieve and you take things seriously about yourself. Many successful people are very critical on themselves, constantly trying to improve and change. So, it is a positive thing to set high standards. Otherwise, you wouldn't be bothered at the first place about being compared.

2) Tell yourself that we are all different, not about who is better or worse. Some people get more opportunities than others; some people get more lucky than others; some people realized certain things earlier than you did, so they perhaps made certain decisions better than you did at the time. When all things are equal and certain people did better than you, sure maybe they are better. But in real life, you cannot have all things being equal. Different upbringings, different priorities, different resources, different labs, different connections, and so on. So, this is why people tend to say that life is not fair. Remind yourself that you did the best you can in the context of everything and other factors around you, with countless hours of hard work.

3) If it helps, don't log into Facebook or Twitter for a while. Or avoid meeting certain friends for a while.

4) This is the most important key here. I am not sure if it was from SDN or the recent books by Atul Gawande that I've read, but someone said: "My strokes in swimming were as good as others, but always I came in second because I kept looking at other lanes and see how others are doing compared to me. Here was the best advice from my coach: 'Swim in your own lane, swim your fastest and you will win.'" You need to set your own goals (shortening the time of your swim records, for example) and pursue that goal without comparing yourself to others. The moment you compare yourself to others, you are wasting your energy on something that does not matter in the end.


Let me share a story.

There was a young, Asian ballet dancer. When she was young, she moved to Germany for better education of ballet. When she got there, everyone else was better than her. She started her ballet lessons relatively late in her age, and everyone else around her were simply far more superior. She cried multiple nights and told her adviser that she doesn't belong here. She was not fluent in German at the time, so it was even more frustrating. But the adviser told her he will support her. So, she decided to stay instead of going back to her country. Every night, she practiced for multiple hours. She stopped comparing herself to others, because simply their upbringings and environments were different from hers, so it was obvious to her that they were better. So she believed that she had to make up that difference by more practice. She had injuries and cried many nights, but she didn't care. After some years, she won one of the national competitions as one of the first Asian ballet dancer in their histories.

She then realized that her sweat and tear don't lie to her. The more she practiced, the more she suffered, the more she cried and sweated, the better she became. But this feeling of being compared came back when she joined one of the most prestigious ballet group in Germany. She was relatively old among her peers, but other people's skills and talents were much ahead of hers, so she felt depressed again. One day, she realized she doesn't want to get older and older without taking any solo role in ballet performances, so she did that practice again many nights. She stopped comparing herself to others, because it was about self-improvements, not about evaluating who is better or not. Her goal was not about being better than others; it was about taking that solo role to shine on the stage. It took 5-7 years until she eventually got that solo role she wanted. After that, many national awards followed and she is probably one of the most successful ballet dancers in Germany.

If her goal was about winning a certain competition the fastest or winning a certain award at the youngest age (like getting the acceptance early for medical school), she would have been miserable and depressed. Because she knew that she wouldn't meet that goal, not because she was not hard working but because her upbringing and opportunities available were simply different and not as resourceful as other dancers in Germany. However, her goal was rather about trying to improve herself to meet her high standards (getting a certain solo role). She did not care how long it would take to get there, but she just wanted to get there one day after improving herself. So the next step was simply to practice and practice more hours than others. Get up earlier than others, and sleep later than others.



It is all about your perspective and what your goals are.

If your goal is about getting into medical school as fast as possible and you believe that is the only criterion to decide who is better, that is an unhealthy, wrong perspective and you need to reevaluate your goal or point of view. Once you did that, everything else follows.
 
Humble brag! That is my new phrase. Love it.

The worst are the Facebook statuses that look like they are a media statement written by a lawyer or publicist.

"After 12 years of hard work, I am so very happy to share with you all that I was accepted to medical school. My dreams are coming true!"

"Brad and I are so very happy to announce the birth of our daughter, Shiloh. We respectively ask for privacy to ensure the safety of our growing happy family." -- Angelina

That hilarious! I know exactly what you're talking about. This girl who I went to school with posted a status a while back... "After much thought and consideration, I am pleased to announce I will be attending Columbia Law School in the Fall. This was a very difficult decision but..." I think it went on but I stopped reading. I just don't see why people need to do that kind of thing - self-validation? Ego? Desire to craft a certain image? It's totally fine to be proud of your achievements, but publicly sharing them with thousands of people you only vaguely know (like me) is totally unnecessary.
 
The level of attention whoring these days is absolutely ridiculous.
 
However, I remind myself that I have 17 MD interview invitations and in a very comfortable position and I just have to wait until the time comes.

😱

But yeah, **** those people. Who cares what they think?
 
I, too, am anxiously waiting for decisions as I read SDN people getting accepted to schools and while I'm happy for them, I become more and more anxious for my acceptance/rejection/waitlist decisions. However, I remind myself that I have 17 MD interview invitations and in a very comfortable position and I just have to wait until the time comes.

:laugh::laugh::laugh: I'm not sure bringing up your 17 interviews is the best way to comfort an OP who is trying to stop comparing their achievements with those of others...
 
:laugh::laugh::laugh: I'm not sure bringing up your 17 interviews is the best way to comfort an OP who is trying to stop comparing their achievements with those of others...

It's the thought that counts

🙄
 
"After 12 years of hard work, I am so very happy to share with you all that I was accepted to medical school. My dreams are coming true!"


I honestly don't see anything inherently wrong with this.
 
I know that my current situation is good. Sure, it could be better (still waiting to hear good news from schools in my current geographic location), but at the end of the day I'll take the 4 II's that I have so far.

It's just all the judgement that's bugging me. I know I shouldn't listen to other people's opinions but I can't help it. I'm a really self-conscious person and its just the way I am/have been. For years I just have a tendency to worry myself about what others think about me and how they compare me to other people they know.

Why aren't you blocking or stopping talkign to these people. If they are judging you, they are not your friends, and there is no need to communicate with them.

I am completely baffled by your response.
 
yeah that happened to me too
you just deal with it
the first person accepted isn't necessarily the best student or the best doctor
we're here for you bro
 
I honestly don't see anything inherently wrong with this.

The question I would ask is, why are you posting it? Is it because you are actually interested in sharing this information with your acquaintances/HS friends you haven't talked to in years, or for some other reason, such as bragging, crafting an image, seeking attention, etc.

The people who really care about this kind of thing won't find out via Facebook. They'll find out via excited texts or phone calls, or when they meet you that night for dinner, or when you go out for drinks with them that weekend. The person who learns about it by scrolling through his facebook feed while bored at work/in class doesn't really care and you don't really have any meaningful reason to tell them that isn't self-serving in some way.

Even if you really just are excited, I think it's better to say too little than too much when it comes to public celebrations of your accomplishments.
 
People don't realize sometimes that they're being insensitive.

Ultimately, the end goal is the same -- it's just a matter of when.

You have a couple of interview invites which is already impressive. Don't be negatively affected by the progress of others, just be comfortable with the pace that your applications are going.

Who cares if others view you negatively -- that just proves that they are compensating for their own insecurities.
 
It's just all the judgement that's bugging me. I know I shouldn't listen to other people's opinions but I can't help it. I'm a really self-conscious person and its just the way I am/have been. For years I just have a tendency to worry myself about what others think about me and how they compare me to other people they know.

For those of us hoping to go to med school, this is just the beginning. Start working on that wall of self-assurance. Be confident in yourself. We have 7+ years of being compared to a room full of super smart people (classmates) waiting for us after that acceptance. If you let this bug you too much, you might just be insane by the end of this 😉
 
The question I would ask is, why are you posting it? Is it because you are actually interested in sharing this information with your acquaintances/HS friends you haven't talked to in years, or for some other reason, such as bragging, crafting an image, seeking attention, etc.

The people who really care about this kind of thing won't find out via Facebook. They'll find out via excited texts or phone calls, or when they meet you that night for dinner, or when you go out for drinks with them that weekend. The person who learns about it by scrolling through his facebook feed while bored at work/in class doesn't really care and you don't really have any meaningful reason to tell them that isn't self-serving in some way.

Even if you really just are excited, I think it's better to say too little than too much when it comes to public celebrations of your accomplishments.

Personal interpretation.

In this day and age everyone is seemingly connected via social media. Sure, mom, dad, and your closest friend may find out over a phone call or text, but old teachers, mentors, cousins, ext? A quick status update is second nature to a lot of people at this point, and I honestly wouldn't mind reading a message such as that from a friend or associate of mine. They're excited - it's an exciting moment.

Some are perturbed by it, some aren't. I have a gauge for comments I may deem contrived or self-serving, but the statement in question doesn't come off as such at all. Just not seeing it.
 
Personal interpretation.

In this day and age everyone is seemingly connected via social media. Sure, mom, dad, and your closest friend may find out over a phone call or text, but old teachers, mentors, cousins, ext? A quick status update is second nature to a lot of people at this point, and I honestly wouldn't mind reading a message such as that from a friend or associate of mine. They're excited - it's an exciting moment.

Some are perturbed by it, some aren't. I have a gauge for comments I may deem contrived or self-serving, but the statement in question doesn't come off as such at all. Just not seeing it.

Agree to disagree
 
So yea as we know people have started to get acceptances today. I see them posting on Facebook. And I'm happy for them. I personally am OK with how my application cycle has been going. I have several interview invites, but haven't attended any yet so obviously I wouldn't be hearing anything today.

But after all these people have been posting about their acceptances, a bunch of people have been asking me if I've heard back from anywhere/gotten accepted. And I have to give that awkward "no, not yet but hopefully soon" answer. And when I say that, it seems like they start to judge me negatively, like I'm not good enough to have an acceptance. They sort of give that ingenuine "oh, maybe...you never know" answer in return.

I guess I can't blame them too much since they don't know how medical school admissions works. But it sucks to be judged like this and compared to all the people that have acceptances today. And now I'm starting to envy them. How do you put up with that negative judgement?

Again, I'm fine with how my application cycle has been going (could be better, but I'm sure other people would happily trade spots with me). I just can't stand being compared and judged like this by all these other people.

I don't get why you just don't say "I have interview invites! I haven't heard back yet because I obviously need to attend an interview first. They're coming up."
 
I told family and friends that Oct 15th was the first day schools can notify you of an acceptance...just to get everyone off of my back. Unfortunately, people bombarded me with questions today (traveling yesterday)) asking if I got accepted. They all seemed genuinely disappointed and concerned when I said I hadn't heard back. I didn't even try to explain...
 
Thats why I usually tell family and close friends (that aren't familiar with med school) the bare minimum, before I actually hear good news. Even though I was 99% sure I would hear from 2 schools on the 15th or 16th, I just said something like, "It's possible that I could hear this week, but it could easily be much later." Tempers expectations a little bit.

Honestly, I only tell people that I'm VERY close to that I'm even applying unless they specifically ask...but I'm not the kind of person that keeps up with a million people.
 
I don't get why you just don't say "I have interview invites! I haven't heard back yet because I obviously need to attend an interview first. They're coming up."

+1


I'm very confused? That seems a bit too self-conscious to me brah, time to man up
 
I feel so guilty of doing this too. …. asking where he's going, which school did you choose, etc. I said this to my cousin at the time when I was applying to UG. I knew when those deadlines were. I knew when ED information came out. I knew when I'd hear back from all the schools, and when I had to decide. What I didn't know was how the Medical School application process differs from the UG process. It's not so clear cut. Decisions can be anytime, but generally not sooner than Oct 15th, although even that can vary.

I'm not applying this year, but when this happens to me next year, I'll remind them that it's very different from UG admissions and the final decision won't be made until just before I start med school. So hold onto your hats.
 
Thats why I usually tell family and close friends (that aren't familiar with med school) the bare minimum, before I actually hear good news. Even though I was 99% sure I would hear from 2 schools on the 15th or 16th, I just said something like, "It's possible that I could hear this week, but it could easily be much later." Tempers expectations a little bit.

Honestly, I only tell people that I'm VERY close to that I'm even applying unless they specifically ask...but I'm not the kind of person that keeps up with a million people.

This is what I plan on doing. I'm not applying this year but when I do apply I don't plan on telling anyone until after I get accepted. That way if I don't get in my first try I will not have the added stress of worrying about what other people think
 
Are you guys really this sensitive?

That's what I was thinking. Everyone's a delicate flower nowadays. Everyone's a winner, nothing anyone says is PC #yolo.
 
That's what I was thinking. Everyone's a delicate flower nowadays. Everyone's a winner, nothing anyone says is PC #yolo.

So you consider it "sensitive" to be irritated by braggers?
 
Agree to disagree


Fair enough.


I am different in that I am just creeped out by Facebook in general. However, I can understand that Facebook users might want to share their excitement.

I was commenting more about the form of such statuses. It kind of just comes off as: It is with great pleasure that I -- someone very successful -- can OFFICIALLY (as opposed to unofficially? Was your publicist making you hold back?) announce to you all -- the masses and peasants -- of my acceptance to medical school.

While a dialogue such as that would be the furthest thing from my mind after reading a status update, I guess that's one way of looking at it. Clearly we all interpret these things differently. :laugh: Truth be told there are a lot of people out there who may do things to appease or inflate their ego over social media, but I'd quicker give someone the benefit of the doubt depending on how the comment was phrased.
 
Yeah, turn the tables on those punks! just kidding, but in all seriousness this is a big reason why I got off of facebook 4 years ago. So much of the time, its just a way for people to humble brag about their lives and basically project to the world whatever person they wish they were. Not everyone uses it this way, but I just got fed up with everything. If you have multiple interviews, you're doing awesome, and none of those other dummies have any clue how this process works.

I am still on Facebook... but this is so true... today when I was posting about asking advice from my friends who are already in medical school or graduated... I was thinking to myself... this is sort of a braggie post... if I was having a horrible application cycle... it would make me feel bad...

I also like the comment above about people who are asking... I think some people might even ask to make you more stressed out... if you wanted to share something about an outcome then you probably would... I began to get annoyed with a "friend" who constantly asked me about certain things that I was having a hard time with... I was having a difficult time and it made me feel bad to not have anything particular awesome to say about the outcome...

These are things that I need to keep in mind for how I interact with people. I want to show them that I care about them but not stress them out, myself.

I find comfort in believing that everything happens for a reason and ultimately everything will work itself out and we will all be exactly where God wants us to be
 
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This is what I plan on doing. I'm not applying this year but when I do apply I don't plan on telling anyone until after I get accepted. That way if I don't get in my first try I will not have the added stress of worrying about what other people think

This is a real good idea. I planned to do this when I started studying for the MCAT. I wanted to keep it from my roommates and family, and only tell my boyfriend. But there was no way of hiding it from people at work and then my roommates found out after several months. I wanted to avoid people's judgement and only tell people that I knew supported me. If you can manage this I think your life may be easier. 🙂 It is better to keep things private and do things because you want to do them and not live in the spot light.
 
So yea as we know people have started to get acceptances today. I see them posting on Facebook. And I'm happy for them. I personally am OK with how my application cycle has been going. I have several interview invites, but haven't attended any yet so obviously I wouldn't be hearing anything today.

But after all these people have been posting about their acceptances, a bunch of people have been asking me if I've heard back from anywhere/gotten accepted. And I have to give that awkward "no, not yet but hopefully soon" answer. And when I say that, it seems like they start to judge me negatively, like I'm not good enough to have an acceptance. They sort of give that ingenuine "oh, maybe...you never know" answer in return.

I guess I can't blame them too much since they don't know how medical school admissions works. But it sucks to be judged like this and compared to all the people that have acceptances today. And now I'm starting to envy them. How do you put up with that negative judgement?

Again, I'm fine with how my application cycle has been going (could be better, but I'm sure other people would happily trade spots with me). I just can't stand being compared and judged like this by all these other people.

Haters will always be hatin'...ignore all those hippie voices and just do you. Your time will come! Once you get accepted you can flip em a huge middle finger.
 
4) This is the most important key here. I am not sure if it was from SDN or the recent books by Atul Gawande that I've read, but someone said: "My strokes in swimming were as good as others, but always I came in second because I kept looking at other lanes and see how others are doing compared to me. Here was the best advice from my coach: 'Swim in your own lane, swim your fastest and you will win.'" You need to set your own goals (shortening the time of your swim records, for example) and pursue that goal without comparing yourself to others. The moment you compare yourself to others, you are wasting your energy on something that does not matter in the end.

This is such a great response, especially that quote you shared. It's so hard to not compare yourself with others. We all have different backgrounds and different experiences. There's no set path that's right for everyone. 👍👍👍
 
This is what I plan on doing. I'm not applying this year but when I do apply I don't plan on telling anyone until after I get accepted. That way if I don't get in my first try I will not have the added stress of worrying about what other people think

That's what I did, but unlike me, be sure to figure out how you're going to break it to them. Then let me in on it 😉
 
That's what I did, but unlike me, be sure to figure out how you're going to break it to them. Then let me in on it 😉

That sounds like the easy part lol. I'll scream it so everyone can hear and be like SEE YA! PEACE!

j/k idk what I'll do. Maybe just mention something about packing for school and if they ask I'll tell them. If no one asks then I'll probably wait until I'm finished to make an official announcement. But I'm a private person.
 
The question I would ask is, why are you posting it? Is it because you are actually interested in sharing this information with your acquaintances/HS friends you haven't talked to in years, or for some other reason, such as bragging, crafting an image, seeking attention, etc.

Honestly, I am interested in sharing this with some of my high school friends, and middle school friends, and co-workers who have encouraged me and supported me along the way, even though I don't keep in constant communication with them. My immediate family is massively deranged, and my extended family to a lesser degree, so I get very little support or praise from home. Instead, I have a diffuse network of people who reach out and help where we can, cheer each other one, and pick each other up when we stumble. So yeah, periodically, I would like some validation from the network I have curated.

When I got accepted to my school of choice, after not making it off the waitlist last cycle, I did post one, discrete status update just saying I was going to be a doctor. I added specifics after people directly inquired, and I even had one family member come out of the woodwork and ask for help with her PS for graduate school.

I get the humblebrag hate, and I also hate it when people post stats, straight-out brags, or feign support when someone else in their group reveals that their progress to their dreams isn't as linear as they'd hoped. But not everyone posting about their acceptances is doing so to feed a massive ego or to denigrate those who are still figuring it out.
 
Honestly, I am interested in sharing this with some of my high school friends, and middle school friends, and co-workers who have encouraged me and supported me along the way, even though I don't keep in constant communication with them. My immediate family is massively deranged, and my extended family to a lesser degree, so I get very little support or praise from home. Instead, I have a diffuse network of people who reach out and help where we can, cheer each other one, and pick each other up when we stumble. So yeah, periodically, I would like some validation from the network I have curated.

When I got accepted to my school of choice, after not making it off the waitlist last cycle, I did post one, discrete status update just saying I was going to be a doctor. I added specifics after people directly inquired, and I even had one family member come out of the woodwork and ask for help with her PS for graduate school.

I get the humblebrag hate, and I also hate it when people post stats, straight-out brags, or feign support when someone else in their group reveals that their progress to their dreams isn't as linear as they'd hoped. But not everyone posting about their acceptances is doing so to feed a massive ego or to denigrate those who are still figuring it out.

That is a good point. There are definitely exceptional cases. Congrats on your acceptance.
 
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