pbj sandwiches?
methinks it has very little to do with ratio of men vs. women and these days most women (newer generation) aren't more likely to know how to cook prior to being forced to learn for themselves.. i think it has a little do with med schools selecting for more well-rounded students with different interests.. many of these students care about health and nutrition. also our knowledge about the risks of processed foods is increasing. and of course the realization that good food costs a lot and you can save money by cooking.Go ahead and crucify me as sexist, but since med schools are 50-60% women these days, (compared to my 1974 graduating class, which was about 5-7% female), does this have something to do with the interest in cooking? I honestly don't know any male doctors who know or care anything about cooking. On the other hand I can pump eight quarters into the vending machine at the hospital faster than anyone to come out with my can of Beefaroni. I have to bring my own plastic spoon, however.
This thread is great! But the back and forth argument about not having enough time to cook is crazy... Everyone has the time to do it whether you want to or not.
I would love some recipes, tidbits for crockpot stuff especially proportions, how much meat/potatoes/veggies/seasoning etc.. Also do u guys know good websites for beginners, basic simple cooking...
So everyone in med school is either starving or eating out? Food preparation does not require a large time commitment nor is it overly difficult, as many others before me have echoedWhat I find crazy is people telling other people what they do and don't have time for, especially when it's a pre-dental student telling someone in med school what they have time to do and not do.
So everyone in med school is either starving or eating out? Food preparation does not require a large time commitment nor is it overly difficult, as many others before me have echoed
If I cook 7 days worth of food, I guarantee you that I will finish it all on day 3. I'm a "eat what's in front of me" type of guy.
If I cook 7 days worth of food, I guarantee you that I will finish it all on day 3. I'm a "eat what's in front of me" type of guy.
Just got back from Sat. AM hospital rounds. Breakfast and lunch consists of Big Bag of Cheez Doodles with 20 oz RC Cola while typing this note. On call dinner tonight will be Large Domino's Death Disk with extra cheese, mushrooms, pepperoni and onions. Tomorrow night's dinner will be leftover pizza, but with a supermarket health salad topped with low-cal French dressing. Does that qualifiy me as a healthy eater?
hahahhaa i like you. its true...MD, 1974. I know all about health and nutrition, and the risk of processed foods. I tell that to all my patients. I just don't have the time to follow my own advice, so that they will probably outlive me.
I am also curious about how "well rounded" you can be if you need a 3.8 science GPA to get through the front door. Maybe it's all of those extracurricular activities, like dancing with the NYC Ballet or being an NFL quartrerback or an astronaut that med schools require these days, which they didn't care about when I was applyiing. I guess nerds like me need not apply.
hahahhaa i like you. its true...
no one here mentioned french fries.. so easy. cut up potatoes into strips and fry with whatever seasonings you like! or cut into thin disks for homemade potato chips
not healthy but cheap and easy to make.. hehe.
what do you guys do about exercise? i used to be all about resistance workouts pretty much stopped working out ~2 years ago when i decided i wanted to do the med school route and studied for mcat and piled on a bunch of ECs. now in med school its even harder to get back into shape.
For your crockpot... it works best when it's 2/3 to 3/4 of the way full, so plan accordingly. If you're cooking meat, know that it will produce its own juices, but anything else you'll probably have to add some water. You can fill it all with meat, if you want... I've made several chicken dishes like that.
Check out http://crockpot365.blogspot.com for recipe ideas. She cooked in the crockpot every day for a year a few years ago, so there's a ton of recipes to check out there.
Now I think this argument is getting out of hand. It's possible to make a healthy and easy meal in about 30 minutes or even less. Are you telling me that no one has even that amount of time to cook something? Maybe someone is tired, or doesn't want to but CAN'T? What about when prepackaged processed food or fast food restaurants weren't as popular as they were now? Why even stick with cooking, let's branch out onto showering, sleeping and doing laundry, are you going to say that I'm telling people what they can or can't do if I say that people should have time to do those also?Exactly who said everyone? I've read this entire thread and haven't seen one person utter the word "everyone." By contrast, you're the one trying to make absolutes with your belief that "everyone" has time to do this or that instead of understanding that not everyone is in the same boat. Some people have a rougher school schedule than others and required attendance, which is why when the age-old question "how much free time will I have during MS1" is asked here on SDN, there are varying answers. For you to dismiss all that and come in to preach your belief that "everyone has time..." as a PRE-dental student is not only extremely arrogant, but also overly presumptuous.
Now I think this argument is getting out of hand. It's possible to make a healthy and easy meal in about 30 minutes or even less. Are you telling me that no one has even that amount of time to cook something? Maybe someone is tired, or doesn't want to but CAN'T? What about when prepackaged processed food or fast food restaurants weren't as popular as they were now? Why even stick with cooking, let's branch out onto showering, sleeping and doing laundry, are you going to say that I'm telling people what they can or can't do if I say that people should have time to do those also?
EmersonAnne said:I can tell you that I often didn't have time to cook during first year unless I did it on the weekends. Most sections, we had class/labs from 8-5 and then some nights tutoring (everyone at my school had access to tutors first year) from 6-8 p.m. I'd get home at 8:30 and still had four or five lectures to review before bed. I don't care how "easy" it is, at 8:30 at night with four hours of work ahead of me, there was no time for cooking. The nights I got home earlier, I'd have time to pull something together, but we generally didn't get our tutoring schedule until the week of so it was difficult to plan for those nights (defrost chicken, etc.). I cooked on the weekend and frequently froze what I made for the week. This plan went to hell on test weekends though.
As a second year, I get out earlier, but during our neuro block, there were days when we had class from 8-5 and by the time I got home, I knew I had something like 6-7 hours of work ahead of me in reviewing the days' notes. I may have had literal "time" to cook, as in there were still hours left in the day, but it's a stretch to say there's always time to cook.
Let me quote a post from upthread:
Now, are you going to be arrogant enough as someone not even in med school or dental school for that matter, to tell someone who is what they do and don't have time for?
I don't understand why some people act so offended when others claim their schedule is too packed to allow for nightly cooking that they come right out and call them a liar. I really don't get why some of you are wound so tight that you can't allow for the possibility that not everyone has the same amount of free time and that yes, even cooking on a nightly basis, is too time-consuming for some.
As for the other crap you listed, my guess is that everyone sleeps and showers on a daily basis. That was a ridiculous argument. No one said "there's no time for anything else in the whole wide world except school". What they said was there isn't time to COOK (not even there isn't time to eat) during the week. Obviously, some consider showering more important than cooking and I suspect if you were their classmates, you probably would rather they shower than take the time to cook the night before.
If you don't understand the argument, don't try to fight it.
The quote you posted doesn't really support your point... The student said that they DID have time to do it even as a MS1, whether they wanted to or not was a different story.
I can tell you that I often didn't have time to cook during first year unless I did it on the weekends.
Whether or not people consider showering more important than cooking isn't really my problem, if you make anything a priority you can make time for it. You can keep emphasizing how busy or how much work a med/dental/whatever student has to do but my point still stands... the time IS there.
For you and the other poster, I am not "telling" people what they time to do or not do as you both keep repeating,
Everyone has the time to do it whether you want to or not.
I am saying that the time is there if you make it a priority.
No one should eat junk/fast food and solely use the excuse "because I don't have anytime" cause it simply isn't true.
So me comparing cooking to showering is a "ridiculous argument" but you comparing cooking to working 50 hours a week isn't...What she said was:
You know what? I also have time to work 50 hours a week in addition to going to med school. The hours ARE there. But if anyone asks me, "hey, why don't you have a full-time job while going to med school?" I'm going to say "there's no time." Will I be lying?
From your very first post in this thread:
As I said above, the time is also there to work 50 hours a week in addition to going to med school, if I make it a priority. I doubt you'd jump on me if I said "I don't have time" in response to someone who asked why I don't work full-time.
I'd like you to show me where the few med students who complained about time constraints said they were eating junk food or fast food. There ARE healthy options for those who can't cook every night, you know. Maybe you should stop being so judgmental and assuming things that aren't true.
So me comparing cooking to showering is a "ridiculous argument" but you comparing cooking to working 50 hours a week isn't...
Instead of knit picking the points of your post, we'll just have to agree to disagree. IMHO to only way to eat healthiest you can is by making and preparing food yourself. There are countless recipes that you can make is a very short time (even less if your a vegan/raw foodist like me) if your willing to look. Instead of working 50 hours a week, you can go and blend a super healthy green drink, or prepare a great salad in less then 10 minutes. But no one has the time right?
When all else fails, use ad hominems...By your logic, if there are hours in the day, there must be time. Well, there are hours in the day to work, therefore, there must be time. It's priorities, after all.
Anyway, I'm done arguing with a know-it-all. You're too arrogant to consider anyone else's point of view and want to make a one-size-fits-all black and white statement with no room for gray. So thanks for the tip. I don't know how I ever lived without your wisdom. You know all.
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what do you guys do about exercise?
I am also curious about how "well rounded" you can be if you need a 3.8 science GPA to get through the front door. Maybe it's all of those extracurricular activities, like dancing with the NYC Ballet or being an NFL quartrerback or an astronaut that med schools require these days, which they didn't care about when I was applying. I guess nerds like me need not apply.
I guess the same way that doctors who smoke tell their patients that smoking is bad?How can anyone arguing about this tell a patient with a strait face that they need to eat better? What are you going to say when they ask how they should go about doing that?
spaghettio's and vending machine sausages for dinner?
Paper plates + plastic utensils.What's time consuming about cooking isn't just the prep but the cleanup as well. Especially with raw meat and eggs.
Paper plates + plastic utensils.
youre kidding me?The med school I am heading to has frats, with private chefs! They cook meals during the week. Great way to eat healthy and focus on school. Plus instant party group right after tests.
Whoa! $3600/year for a meal plan X 4 years = $14,400 for four years. That is more then the entire cost of my medical school tuition ($12,000 for four years in a private med school in the early 1970's). The amount you guys are shelling out to eat food prepared by an ex cruise ship chef is more than I made as a PGY 1 in 1974 ($12,800). Man, you guys are spoiled.
The fun part is they live there for that price! Lol not just eat! In the 300's includes RENT , food and all the other perks.
What are you paying for rent and your monthly grocery bill? How much did you spend on your books this year? Did you have to pay for a tutor? If you have a car, how about parking or gas?
I am guessing it adds up to WAY more than what we are paying.
Texas is stylin' on all of us. My rent+ utilities+internet are $480ish
Yeah, but gas is included in my rent so I can waste it.Are you turning on your heat and air?
Whoa! $3600/year for a meal plan X 4 years = $14,400 for four years. That is more then the entire cost of my medical school tuition ($12,000 for four years in a private med school in the early 1970's). The amount you guys are shelling out to eat food prepared by an ex cruise ship chef is more than I made as a PGY 1 in 1974 ($12,800). Man, you guys are spoiled.