Hpsp Ppt?

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My local recruiter is helping to put on a military medical fair for the local ROTC. He asked for me to do a 15 min presentation on HPSP. Does anyone know where I can find one or do I need to start from scratch?
 

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lol...I've got one, but I'm not sure how to post it online and I'm not sure if it's what your recruiter has in mind. It's AF-centric, detailing the recent match fiasco and has a long-term financial analysis of the HPSP program for recipients. When you see it you'll realize why recruiters never include what would be an obvious selling point of the HPSP in their presentations - even with conservative estimates of civilian physician salaries, HPSP is a losing financial proposition. If anyone has any computer advice about posting Powerpoint presentations online I'll be glad to share it, otherwise you can PM me for it via email.
 
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I couldn't put a positive spin on HPSP and still look at myself in the mirror every morning. Please be fair. That doesn't mean outright bashing, but it doesn't mean lying like the filthy recruiters out there. You owe your future colleagues an unbiased look at the enormous gravity of this decision.

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You owe your future colleagues an unbiased look at the enormous gravity of this decision.

Not to mention that you owe it to your own personal sense of integrity, that means risks and benefits. Unvarnished truth, warts and all.

What were those core values again?

Integrity <------ (Hey! Look! It's number one!)
Service before Self
Excellence in all we do.

You're no salesman working on commission, but neither are you some execrable service-scorning anti-recruiter. If Mil-med were a great deal, it would sell itself. That said, I don't think an honest sitrep of the current state of military medicine will have them signing up in droves. Let the single-digit retention numbers (and the leadership's indifference to those numbers) speak for themselves.
 

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Not to mention that you owe it to your own personal sense of integrity, that means risks and benefits. Unvarnished truth, warts and all.

What were those core values again?

Integrity <------ (Hey! Look! It's number one!)
Service before Self
Excellence in all we do.

You're no salesman working on commission, but neither are you some execrable service-scorning anti-recruiter. If Mil-med were a great deal, it would sell itself. That said, I don't think an honest sitrep of the current state of military medicine will have them signing up in droves. Let the single-digit retention numbers (and the leadership's indifference to those numbers) speak for themselves.
Wait, what? I was with you until you made it sound like you should let recruiters continue to fill up the pipeline, just to keep those retention numbers down, and thus effect change. Wha-what? It seems pretty clear the powers that be find little wrong with the current state of affairs. You can't honestly be advocating another few classes of cannon fodder, in the hopes that someone up the chain of command "gets it" one day, are you?

I don't think you need to worry about prospectives getting their fair share of the benefits. I think the best use of one's time would be to act as a counterpoint to what's offered from Military PR. Fair and balanced requires balance.
 

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I don't think you need to worry about prospectives getting their fair share of the benefits. I think the best use of one's time would be to act as a counterpoint to what's offered from Military PR. Fair and balanced requires balance.


Sometimes you really have to emphasize something to get beyond the first impressions many prospective applicants have about the HPSP. One college senior I spoke with couldn't understand how not having that much med school debt could be anything but a huge financial benefit despite civilian physician salaries. I finally asked him if his recruiters had ever shown him anything like the financial breakdown I had in my talk. He said no, never seen anything like it. But if HPSP is such a huge financial benefit, why aren't recruiters waving spreadsheets around and shouting from the rooftops about the tens of thousands of dollars you'll save? I asked. Wouldn't that be an obvious and hugely beneficial recruiting point? I think he was starting to understand.
 

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Sometimes you really have to emphasize something to get beyond the first impressions many prospective applicants have about the HPSP. One college senior I spoke with couldn't understand how not having that much med school debt could be anything but a huge financial benefit despite civilian physician salaries. I finally asked him if his recruiters had ever shown him anything like the financial breakdown I had in my talk. He said no, never seen anything like it. But if HPSP is such a huge financial benefit, why aren't recruiters waving spreadsheets around and shouting from the rooftops about the tens of thousands of dollars you'll save? I asked. Wouldn't that be an obvious and hugely beneficial recruiting point? I think he was starting to understand.

Then again, maybe the recruiters shouldn't be trying to get docs based strictly on financial considerations. I've always thought that was a very deceptive practice anyway...kind of like "join the army and go to college for free". If military medicine was made to offer significant benefits over civilian practice, the money wouldn't be the main talking point.
 

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I have no intentions of lying or presenting a half truth. It doesn't make sense to mislead someone that I will likely run into later professionally. I wanted to just give some nuts and bolts of the program and then discuss my personal experiences in the program.
 

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Wait, what? I was with you until you made it sound like you should let recruiters continue to fill up the pipeline

Geez... did I write so poorly that I gave some of you that impression?

What I meant by my post is that simply sticking to the facts will be all you need to educate students about HPSP, and dissuade most of them from joining the program. When the facts are on your side (and they are), argue the facts. Emotional appeals are for people that have nothing else in their quiver.
 
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