I don't get it. Who's doing research? and what are you studying

[YouDontKnowJack]

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I saw on the match outcomes pdf that 70-80% of med students do research before residency. Are people lying on their application or what?

How many of you are doing research? and what the hell are you researching?
Most of us are not PHD's, so i can't imagine students doing any fancy **** right. you poke rats and inject them with toxins or some other bullsh**, and you put that on your resume?


I imagine most of us are going into clinical medicine, and not academic medicine. So what's with the 80% research......even in anesthesia, ob/gyn, and IM.

 

[DHMO]

Remember that most people have probably done some research in undergrad before going to med school. This would still be included in your residency application. Also, many students do research during the the summer after first year. It's not too difficult to do a short clinical research project in 2-3 months. Some students take some of 4th year to do a research elective for 1-2 months. Clinical research is much easier to accomplish than basic science.

 

[SLUser11]

I saw on the match outcomes pdf that 70-80% of med students do research before residency. Are people lying on their application or what?

How many of you are doing research? and what the hell are you researching?
Most of us are not PHD's, so i can't imagine students doing any fancy **** right. you poke rats and inject them with toxins or some other bullsh**, and you put that on your resume?


I imagine most of us are going into clinical medicine, and not academic medicine. So what's with the 80% research......even in anesthesia, ob/gyn, and IM.

1. Doing research and getting published are two completely different things. I found the number of people that have published to be more suprising.

2. Anything you list in the "research" portion of ERAS probably counted. Alot of med students do some type of research after first year, with a time commitment as little as one week, but usually 3 months.

 

[YouDontKnowJack]

so if you never did research in undergrad, and you don't give a crap about research in med school...... it doesn't hurt right? for the most part, research is as worthless as basic science grades?

 

[48 hours]

I saw on the match outcomes pdf that 70-80% of med students do research before residency. Are people lying on their application or what?

How many of you are doing research? and what the hell are you researching?
Most of us are not PHD's, so i can't imagine students doing any fancy **** right. you poke rats and inject them with toxins or some other bullsh**, and you put that on your resume?


I imagine most of us are going into clinical medicine, and not academic medicine. So what's with the 80% research......even in anesthesia, ob/gyn, and IM.

At my school, we have a summer research program available during the one summer we have off between 1st and 2nd year. Anyway, you find a PI and a project (which might be easier here since we happen to be on an undergrad campus), then apply. If you're accepted (most students are), then you get a stipend/grant for completing a research project and presenting at a late summer research forum. Usually, this isn't enough time to publish, but many continue to dabble in their projects, recruit undergrads, etc for the remainder of their 3 years.

Some do basic science and some clinical. My project looks at health care indicators specific to the treatment of hospitalized vulnerable elders. So, for example, I presented at a Hospitalist meeting and an AGS meeting. Anyway, I thought this was a pretty common med school thing. I guess not, then??

 

[QuinnB]

with the publishing thing, i've noticed that a lot of people include case reports in this...which is definitely being published but a little different than writing a clinical/basic research paper

 

[SLUser11]

so if you never did research in undergrad, and you don't give a crap about research in med school...... it doesn't hurt right? for the most part, research is as worthless as basic science grades?

Just because you didn't do it, that doesn't make it worthless.

It makes a difference, nowhere near as much as step 1 scores, etc., but it makes a difference. Pad your resume, it will pay off later.

 

[48 hours]

Just because you didn't do it, that doesn't make it worthless.

It makes a difference, nowhere near as much as step 1 scores, etc., but it makes a difference. Pad your resume, it will pay off later.

I think it depends what you want to do. If you want to be train at a community hospital residency program or be a private practice doc, etc. then youdon'tknowjack is probably right. Research probably doesn't matter much to those institutions, I would think?

On the other hand, if you are looking to be an academic physician, I've been told that research can be very helpful.

 

[caffeinefree08]

Lots of med schools advertise their summer research programs between med 1 and med 2. Some med schools with independent study type or problem based learning let you do research during the year. There are tons of clincians that are looking for medically knowledgeable data organizers to do the leg work of that little publishable research project they never finished getting started.

This works out well for everyone. You, the med student, get publishable research that could relate to a specialty you go into. The physician gets another published project that goes toward his/her tenure review and proves he/she has some type of mentoring/teaching skills. The med school gets to tell everyone how many wonderful research opportunities and diverse work they have going on. Potential residencies see it as a way to screen and judge people, and sell how much research their particular program does.

 

[Adcadet]

During my first 3 years of medical school I worked on a clinical epi project in critical care that led to many presentations and the a manuscript from it was recently accepted for publication. I'm now doing an epi project in cardiology that I hope to have at least one publication from by the time I graduate. I have an advanced degree (see my sig) and I plan to enter academic medicine.