i just got rejected....wtff

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Yeah, based on how quick you were to throw a tantrum, I'm gonna assume that your LORs were real bad. "Student has a hard time with rejection" "ability to take feedback is poor" "recommend with reservations..."

Any of those statements can be a deal breaker, regardless of your scores.

Plus, your so late in the game now to be sending in your DAT scores. Temple gets over 4,000 applications/year they definitly don't have time to wait around for you.

BE ON TIME AND IF YOU CANT BE ON TIME BE EARLY!!
 
Plus, your so late in the game now to be sending in your DAT scores. Temple gets over 4,000 applications/year they definitly don't have time to wait around for you.

Obviously you have no idea how the interview/admissions process works at temple. My classmates on the admissions committee told me, Brian takes all of the applications, and toss them down the stairs, and depending on where they land determines what they do with the student. Rejection, Do Nothing, Interview, and Acceptance. With 4000+ students applying per year, this is the easiest way to determine what to do.

Hey you're going to get rejections, and Temple is no "safety" school, so work hard, and if you dont get in this year, thats not the end of the world.
 
I just got rejected from temple dental w/ a 3.3 gpa and they still havnt EVEN RECIEVED MY DAT SCORES because i only just took them in late august! THEY definitley did not get my dat scores so they rejected me based on everything else? wtffffff my scores havnt even REACHED THE SCHOOLS. WTF WTF WTF WTF. i thought my application was pretty good as a whole, and my DAT score is a 20. wtfffff????????? im pissed and disgusted. and of course admissions is closed on saturday so i cant call and ask them why they hate me so much. great.

the same exact thing happened to me last year except it was at umdnj. last year you could mark that you were re-taking the dat on the app., well i got a rejection from them before i even took the test. oh well. ironically, i have been invited for an interview with the scores from last year that they never looked at, and i just took the test again and did considerably better. haha, well kinda (funny that is).
 
my gpa is a 3.2 and dat is a 19 and i sitll havent been rejected from temple yet...i applied in july...
 
Obviously you have no idea how the interview/admissions process works at temple. My classmates on the admissions committee told me, Brian takes all of the applications, and toss them down the stairs, and depending on where they land determines what they do with the student. Rejection, Do Nothing, Interview, and Acceptance. With 4000+ students applying per year, this is the easiest way to determine what to do.

Hey you're going to get rejections, and Temple is no "safety" school, so work hard, and if you dont get in this year, thats not the end of the world.

haha that would explain the big black whole that is dental school admissions once you meet cutoff points :laugh:
 
I just got rejected from temple dental w/ a 3.3 gpa and they still havnt EVEN RECIEVED MY DAT SCORES because i only just took them in late august! THEY definitley did not get my dat scores so they rejected me based on everything else? wtffffff my scores havnt even REACHED THE SCHOOLS. WTF WTF WTF WTF. i thought my application was pretty good as a whole, and my DAT score is a 20. wtfffff????????? im pissed and disgusted. and of course admissions is closed on saturday so i cant call and ask them why they hate me so much. great.

I don't want to directly attack you, but I don't think this is how you should be acting because you got a rejection.

3.3 GPA and 20 DAT come fairly easy without too much effort. Bottom line, your DAT and GPA are both not even close to being good enough to be angry about a rejection.

Obviously you didn't put that much effort into building your application and now you are mad about a rejection? There are tons of others who have tried harder than you and deserve admission much more than you.

Especially if you are a person with this kind of attitude and personality, I am glad that the school didn't waste their time interviewing you.
 
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That's low. I agree with Sfoksn. I have 3.7 GPA and 25 DAT but I still think my stats are not competitive because dental schools look at other things such as your personal statement, jobshadowing and etc. It's a good thing that they rejected you early.
 
That's low. I agree with Sfoksn. I have 3.7 GPA and 25 DAT but I still think my stats are not competitive because dental schools look at other things such as your personal statement, jobshadowing and etc. It's a good thing that they rejected you early.

now i'm sad...
i have a 3.2GPA and a 23DAT, and i don't hold a candle compared to you and sfoskn's sun....
I have quite a few ECs and work experience and 1 research project, but compared to people like sfoskn, I have nothing....

In fact, compared to sfoskn, I think most of us are crap-tastic applicants.
 
now i'm sad...
i have a 3.2GPA and a 23DAT, and i don't hold a candle compared to you and sfoskn's sun....
I have quite a few ECs and work experience and 1 research project, but compared to people like sfoskn, I have nothing....

In fact, compared to sfoskn, I think most of us are crap-tastic applicants.

Yes there are amazing applicants out there, but they incredibly rare. The average applicant has been 3.5 overall/18-19 DAT. Yes having those 25+, 3.7's help, but if you don't have them, it's not the death of your application. And for those that say "if you don't have a 3.7+, 25+ this cycle, you're screwed." Get real. You're in the minority, and you know it. :laugh:

I have quite a few interviews with below average gpa and 22 DAT. Never sell yourself short- especially at your interviews. Period.🙂

WOOPS LOL DIME A DOZEN FAIL.
 
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3.3 GPA comes very easy without any effort, and 20 DAT is fairly easy without much effort.

Dude, mad respect for you and all, but this is a rather insensitive statement to make. Especially the GPA part--some schools are just going to be a lot harder than others. A 3.3 might be "easy", but "without any effort"? Really?

I don't know about you, but where I go, it DEFINITELY takes effort to get a B+ in a science class. Despite how you feel about the OP's work ethic/attitude/whatever, this jab at people with lower stats is rather unnecessary.
 
Many people have worked hard to earn a 3.3gpa. I worked 35hrs while taking full time CC credits just to get a degree (AA) before finally joining the military to get enough money to do the whole process right (not having to work as much). Now I've earned a 3.75X3yrs but because of my past grades my gpa is still lower - @ a 3.3 cum.
I'm just pointing out that you do have great stats but many people have worked just as hard and have a little less to show for it.

3.3 GPA comes very easy without any effort, and 20 DAT is fairly easy without much effort...

Obviously you didn't put that much effort into building your application and now you are mad about a rejection?
 
Many people have worked hard to earn a 3.3gpa. I worked 35hrs while taking full time CC credits just to get a degree (AA) before finally joining the military to get enough money to do the whole process right (not having to work as much). Now I've earned a 3.75X3yrs but because of my past grades my gpa is still lower - @ a 3.3 cum.
I'm just pointing out that you do have great stats but many people have worked just as hard and have a little less to show for it.

Like I said, sell yourself at the interview/personal statement/work experience. Yes numbers play a role, but if it were that way, I doubt I would of gotten as many interviews. Just work it, and don't let the "jabs" get to you. 👍
 
Dude, mad respect for you and all, but this is a rather insensitive statement to make. Especially the GPA part--some schools are just going to be a lot harder than others. A 3.3 might be "easy", but "without any effort"? Really?

I don't know about you, but where I go, it DEFINITELY takes effort to get a B+ in a science class. Despite how you feel about the OP's work ethic/attitude/whatever, this jab at people with lower stats is rather unnecessary.

I agree, maybe sfoskn is talking to the people who go to those "easier" schools? According to his predents profile, he goes to UCLA, and UCLA is by far means not an easy school.
As much as I know that I have to sell myself at the interview, that's all fine and dandy ONLY if I do get interviews lol
 
Many people have worked hard to earn a 3.3gpa. I worked 35hrs while taking full time CC credits just to get a degree (AA) before finally joining the military to get enough money to do the whole process right (not having to work as much). Now I've earned a 3.75X3yrs but because of my past grades my gpa is still lower - @ a 3.3 cum.
I'm just pointing out that you do have great stats but many people have worked just as hard and have a little less to show for it.

I totally agree with you my friend. Getting 3.3 is not an easy job for me either. I worked more than 40 hours per week while going to school same time. I am not born with silver spoon.
 
I agree, maybe sfoskn is talking to the people who go to those "easier" schools? According to his predents profile, he goes to UCLA, and UCLA is by far means not an easy school.
As much as I know that I have to sell myself at the interview, that's all fine and dandy ONLY if I do get interviews lol

Completely agree. Any of the UC's including Berkeley, UCLA, and UCSD are very difficult. A 3.3 at UCLA is a good GPA, and requires a great deal of "work."
 
BTW I can get 3.7 GPA too if someone wants to pay my tuition and living expenses plus support my family.
 
Many people have worked hard to earn a 3.3gpa. I worked 35hrs while taking full time CC credits just to get a degree (AA) before finally joining the military to get enough money to do the whole process right (not having to work as much). Now I've earned a 3.75X3yrs but because of my past grades my gpa is still lower - @ a 3.3 cum.
I'm just pointing out that you do have great stats but many people have worked just as hard and have a little less to show for it.

Not to make light of the effort you made in college prior to military service, but I worked 30-35 hrs per weeks as well at one job and then during the winter also had my ski racing/job to do on the weekends. I still managed to graduate with a 3.85. I knw not everyone will be able to do this, but I am not a brain. It just took a lot of long nights and taking advantage of free time.
 
Dude, mad respect for you and all, but this is a rather insensitive statement to make. Especially the GPA part--some schools are just going to be a lot harder than others. A 3.3 might be "easy", but "without any effort"? Really?

I don't know about you, but where I go, it DEFINITELY takes effort to get a B+ in a science class. Despite how you feel about the OP's work ethic/attitude/whatever, this jab at people with lower stats is rather unnecessary.

Sorry about that, you are right. 3.3 is not easy at all...
 
Aye, I wasnt as focused back then - at least not on academics. It's a bed I made - I'm lying it - but it's been alot of hard work. Congrats on your steller gpa.

Not to make light of the effort you made in college prior to military service, but I worked 30-35 hrs per weeks as well at one job and then during the winter also had my ski racing/job to do on the weekends. I still managed to graduate with a 3.85.
 
keep in mind that a 25 DAT is 99.9 percentile. That means out of the 15,000 that took the test, 15 got that grade. And 10 or so are on sdn. I'm just approximating obviously, but you get the point. If you have a 20 you are still competitive for several schools- don't let the outliers throw you off track.
 
The op wasn't b**ching about getting rejected- just the fact that they didn't consider the whole application.


and sfoksn get off your high horse. extraordinary grades do not mean that an individual will make a great dentist. part of it is character, which is something you clearly lack. many may have worked hard and still gotten a 3.3- do you know if they work, have a family, have monetary or family troubles? I personally have a friend who had a 3.5 and got into Harvard, as he had much more going on in his life than a pile of textbooks. Also, be an engineering major or something harder than anthropology, and then come talk to me about achieving a 3.3

I didn't mean to attack you, but making someone feel worse about something won't solve any problem.
 
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Dude, mad respect for you and all, but this is a rather insensitive statement to make. Especially the GPA part--some schools are just going to be a lot harder than others. A 3.3 might be "easy", but "without any effort"? Really?

I don't know about you, but where I go, it DEFINITELY takes effort to get a B+ in a science class. Despite how you feel about the OP's work ethic/attitude/whatever, this jab at people with lower stats is rather unnecessary.

I totally agree.
Not only this, but I think the OP is just mad about them not considering everything in his/her application.
I would be too...what ever happened to "look at the applicant as a whole"...yeah, a whole bunch of numbers?
Sometimes those numbers really don't properly represent your ability...
 
I don't want to directly attack you, but I don't think this is how you should be acting because you got a rejection.

3.3 GPA and 20 DAT come fairly easy without too much effort. Bottom line, your DAT and GPA are both not even close to being good enough to be angry about a rejection.

Obviously you didn't put that much effort into building your application and now you are mad about a rejection? There are tons of others who have tried harder than you and deserve admission much more than you.

Especially if you are a person with this kind of attitude and personality, I am glad that the school didn't waste their time interviewing you.

Pretty idiotic all the way around.
 
Pretty idiotic all the way around.


haha atleast im not the only one who thinks so!

not for nothing, but you don't see ucladds101 bashing people because they aren't as smart as him.
 
If it makes you feel any better I got my rejection letter from UMKC before they even received my application! LOL:laugh:
 
I totally agree.
Not only this, but I think the OP is just mad about them not considering everything in his/her application.
I would be too...what ever happened to "look at the applicant as a whole"...yeah, a whole bunch of numbers?
Sometimes those numbers really don't properly represent your ability...

The OP should be getting some of the blame for not giving the adcom a complete application. As previously mentioned, adcom has thousands of application to look at, so why even consider an incomplete application. It shows lack of responsibility of the applicant regardless of any numbers (GPA or DAT). It is not that there is a lack of competitive applicants. The demand of getting into dental school greatly exceed the supply of available spots. Therefore you need to make sure that you don't give ANY reason for the adcom to reject you. I do feel for the OP, but take it as a lesson learned. Next time, make sure that your application is complete before submitting it.
 
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The OP should be get some of the blame for not giving the adcom a complete application. As previously mentioned, adcom has thousands of application to look at, so why even consider an incomplete application. It shows lack of responsibility of the applicant regardless of any numbers (GPA or DAT). It is not that there is a lack of competitive applicants. The demand of getting into dental school greatly exceed the supply of available spots. Therefore you need to make sure that you don't give ANY reason for the adcom to reject you. I do feel for the OP, but take it as a lesson learned. Next time, make sure that your application is complete before submitting it.
I disagree the schools can go into aadsas and pull info before your mailing and aadsas will mail if things are missing.

My LOR's were held up other a month due to the people e-posting them having an issue, not in my control. SO it is not always their fault if an app is lagging something
 
I disagree the schools can go into aadsas and pull info before your mailing and aadsas will mail if things are missing.

My LOR's were held up other a month due to the people e-posting them having an issue, not in my control. SO it is not always their fault if an app is lagging something

I believe that you are making an incorrect statement. Schools cannot pull information from AADSAS and that AADSAS cannot mail thing if you have NOT officially submit your application.

Hence before submitting your application, make sure that everything is there (DAT, LORs, Essay, etc). If not, you have no one to blame but yourself. Some people do submit when things are still missing, such as the DAT and LORs. It is their option to do so, but they should know the consequences.
 
I believe that you are making an incorrect statement. Schools cannot pull information from AADSAS and that AADSAS cannot mail thing if you have NOT officially submit your application.

Hence before submitting your application, make sure that everything is there (DAT, LORs, Essay, etc). If not, you have no one to blame but yourself. Some people do submit when things are still missing, such as the DAT and LORs. It is their option to do so, but they should know the consequences.


they can't pull info from aadsas. however, i have talked to several sources (tenured dental profs, students, adcoms, and my prehealth advisor) that said that it doesnt matter if everything is sent at once or in pieces. what is a priority is to atleast get aadsas out asap, then send like dat or lor later on if need be.

and you may have someone to blame but yourself- what if one of your family members got sick, and you had to be at the hospital for weeks? should you get rejected because you couldn't get your dat score in at the same time as everyone else?

and what "consequences?" most people apply and then forward their dat scores. they apply in june and use the summer to study so that they can maximize their score. imo, the consequence would be rushing the dat and doing poorly, albeit you have an early application.

plus waiting just puts you more and more at the bottom of the pile- get ur app in early and if need be, worry about filling in the gaps later on.
 
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Obviously what you suggested didn't work for the OP since he got rejected turning an incomplete application in early.

It really doesn't matter what you and I think. What really matter is what the adcom thinks. Whether the individual want to take some responsibility himself or blame others like the adcom, sick family members, the end of the world, or whatever excuses he can come up with is entirely up to him.


they can't pull info from aadsas. however, i have talked to several sources (tenured dental profs, students, adcoms, and my prehealth advisor) that said that it doesnt matter if everything is sent at once or in pieces. what is a priority is to atleast get aadsas out asap, then send like dat or lor later on if need be.

and you may have someone to blame but yourself- what if one of your family members got sick, and you had to be at the hospital for weeks? should you get rejected because you couldn't get your dat score in at the same time as everyone else?

and what "consequences?" most people apply and then forward their dat scores. they apply in june and use the summer to study so that they can maximize their score. imo, the consequence would be rushing the dat and doing poorly, albeit you have an early application.

plus waiting just puts you more and more at the bottom of the pile- get ur app in early and if need be, worry about filling in the gaps later on.
 
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