I know a lot of you hate on Chapman's quackery....

[KeikoTanaka]

But I totally have one in my left 5th ICS. Drink coffee, 20 minutes later, literally feel acid coming up, eat some Tums, touch that spot, and I have a "small bee-bee sized grain of rice" that hurts like hell when I touch it. Don't have it anywhere else. Maybe there's some truth to this afterall... lol

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[samac]

Rub the crap out of it and it should cure you. That’ll be $200 thanks.

 

[deleted407021]

My favorite is the cerebellum one lmao

 

[Ho0v-man]

I like massage the proximal humerus for every case of pink eye.

 

[Sardonix]

You guys are full of crap.

Better massage your lateral thighs to help fix that.

 

[scoopdaboop]

muscle energy post-isometric relaxation will help u

 

[BorntobeDO?]

But I totally have one in my left 5th ICS. Drink coffee, 20 minutes later, literally feel acid coming up, eat some Tums, touch that spot, and I have a "small bee-bee sized grain of rice" that hurts like hell when I touch it. Don't have it anywhere else. Maybe there's some truth to this afterall... lol

Hmm so what brought you here to the inpatient psychiatric unit? Tell me more about this 'bee-bee sized grain of rice' in your side.

Rub the crap out of it and it should cure you. That’ll be $200 thanks.

Is this medical advice on the forum!!!!! I think we need to close down this thread.

 

[Goro]

But I totally have one in my left 5th ICS. Drink coffee, 20 minutes later, literally feel acid coming up, eat some Tums, touch that spot, and I have a "small bee-bee sized grain of rice" that hurts like hell when I touch it. Don't have it anywhere else. Maybe there's some truth to this afterall... lol

Observer bias, much?

 

[Medic741]

But I totally have one in my left 5th ICS. Drink coffee, 20 minutes later, literally feel acid coming up, eat some Tums, touch that spot, and I have a "small bee-bee sized grain of rice" that hurts like hell when I touch it. Don't have it anywhere else. Maybe there's some truth to this afterall... lol

This is why people **** on DO’s and for good reason if they believe this crap

 

[Ho0v-man]

This is why people **** on DO’s and for good reason if they believe this crap

I assumed this was a troll thread. Surely OP is joking.

 

[NecFasc92]

I assumed this was a troll thread. Surely OP is joking.

If you look through her history you’ll see that she is actually pretty big on omm so I doubt it

 

[Medic741]

I assumed this was a troll thread. Surely OP is joking.

I’m really, really hoping lol.

Have stealthily looked for Chapman points during M3 and haven’t found one yet

 

[Ho0v-man]

Have stealthily looked for Chapman points during M3 and haven’t found one yet

 

[Neopolymath]

Please cut it out so that we may have histological evidence of its existence. Good luck.

 

[Angus Avagadro]

Please cut it out so that we may have histological evidence of its existence. Good luck.

Actually, a local University Neurosurgeon tried to do just that, cut out tender points. He was gone in 6 months.

 

[Neopolymath]

Actually, a local University Neurosurgeon tried to do just that, cut out tender points. He was gone in 6 months.

Chapman's points = Kaiser Soze

 

[Ruraldoc18]

One time my buddy thought he found one on me, turns out it was my coracoid process. Hurt like all get out when he kept "applying rotatory pressure" on it lol.

 

[KeikoTanaka]

I assumed this was a troll thread. Surely OP is joking.

Nah not kidding! I haven't found any but the GERD one, and, as a 26 year old fit male, I probably don't have enough innate organic dysfunction to really manifest as a true one? Definitely don't believe in all Chapman's points... But I really did feel this one, and it correlated perfectly to my acid reflux. Actually, the intercostal muscle spasmed initially which drew me to that area, then I felt a little muscle fiber-like tone underneath. Wish I could have shown you guys so maybe you could believe in the banana-doge in the sky.

 

[KeikoTanaka]

Please cut it out so that we may have histological evidence of its existence. Good luck.

Have you ever cut someone's Charlie Horse out of the back of their hamstring and looked at it under a slide? Seems extreme

 

[samac]

 

[Cath Up]

Have you ever cut someone's Charlie Horse out of the back of their hamstring and looked at it under a slide? Seems extreme

It... seems extreme to ask for actual evidence of a supposedly palpable/nodular/physical phenomenon?

As far as I can tell it would be really easy to prove the existence of a Chapman's Point. Patient has appendicitis. Quack DO palpates an appendicitis Chapman's Point. Surgeon performs appendectomy and really quickly looks around the exact area where Quack DO felt Chapman's Point for any bumps.

Ya know what? I am guessing they would have noticed one by now, if they were around. Or a DO would have demonstrated their physical existence in a study, and they would have been accepted into mainstream medicine. But that hasn't been done, because they don't exist, or even if they do appear in some subset of patients, clearly have no diagnostic value.

 

[deleted407021]

It... seems extreme to ask for actual evidence of a supposedly palpable/nodular/physical phenomenon?

As far as I can tell it would be really easy to prove the existence of a Chapman's Point. Patient has appendicitis. Quack DO palpates an appendicitis Chapman's Point. Surgeon performs appendectomy and really quickly looks around the exact area where Quack DO felt Chapman's Point for any bumps.

Ya know what? I am guessing they would have noticed one by now, if they were around. Or a DO would have demonstrated their physical existence in a study, and they would have been accepted into mainstream medicine. But that hasn't been done, because they don't exist, or even if they do appear in some subset of patients, clearly have no diagnostic value.

Lol right. Patient has peritoneal signs, rebound, RLQ pain, might be febrile and sick as s*** and CT is conclusive but it’s time to hunt for a mysterious tender point on the tip of rib 12 on the right? No competent clinician would waste time investigating further, it’s obviously a surgical case.

 

[Osminog]

OP, it sounds like you're really on to something. You should conduct a study where you use objective tests to determine if people suffering from GERD are more likely to have "grains of rice" in their 5th ICS than healthy individuals.

All kidding aside, though, Chapman's points are as real as reflexology points or acupuncture points. Stop deluding yourself.

 

[Giovanotto]

Nah not kidding! I haven't found any but the GERD one, and, as a 26 year old fit male, I probably don't have enough innate organic dysfunction to really manifest as a true one? Definitely don't believe in all Chapman's points... But I really did feel this one, and it correlated perfectly to my acid reflux. Actually, the intercostal muscle spasmed initially which drew me to that area, then I felt a little muscle fiber-like tone underneath. Wish I could have shown you guys so maybe you could believe in the banana-doge in the sky.

Troll or not, you legit had me 10/10 laughing with this one.

 

[Goro]

This is why people **** on DO’s and for good reason if they believe this crap

Well, at this point in time it's only the True Believers who go for this type of woo.

Please cut it out so that we may have histological evidence of its existence. Good luck.

I'll be 100% all for Chapman's points if someone can only show me one on a histo slide. They've only bee around for, what, 100 years/ Surely if they were real, someone would have found one conclusively by now.