I have 5 hours to send in a decision...could use the moral support:
1) Columbia for $350k
or
2) UCLA for $265k
Thanks guys!
1) Columbia for $350k
or
2) UCLA for $265k
Thanks guys!
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i have 5 hours to send in a decision...could use the moral support:
1) columbia for $350k
or
2) ucla for $265k (dean's & regent's)
thanks guys!
Agreed. That's what I expected...jsut wanted to make sure all the sleep I've lost wasn't getting to me haha
NEITHER!!!!!!!
Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Clown College
I've declined all acceptances because of the debt and am changing my path
Agreed. That's what I expected...jsut wanted to make sure all the sleep I've lost wasn't getting to me haha
Hey, my brother-in-law works for the circus (Cirque du Soleil). He clears six figures and he doesn't even have to pay for a place to live. Not a bad option.
Hey, my brother-in-law works for the circus (Cirque du Soleil). He clears six figures and he doesn't even have to pay for a place to live. Not a bad option.
I think the result speaks for itself. You will love living in LA.
Cirque de Soleil is far from any general circus act you'd see from a regular circus; what they do is for the most part amazing. That six figure salary is well earned!
Cirque de Soleil is far from any general circus act you'd see from a regular circus; what they do is for the most part amazing. That six figure salary is well earned!
Yeah, some of the main acts must make alot of money. I went to vegas recently and saw those two muscle man balance on each other. Incredible strength, and they are one of the headlining acts. Noone else can do it. I would vouch they probably make those 6 figures.
Word. Yeah ucla up 10 to 1 basically says it all. LA will be a great time...not that NYC wouldn't have been but Columbia's not exactly close to all the action. PLus how can you go wrong with the beautiful women at UCLA. Answer...you can't haha.
Yeah, some of the main acts must make alot of money. I went to vegas recently and saw those two muscle man balance on each other. Incredible strength, and they are one of the headlining acts. Noone else can do it. I would vouch they probably make those 6 figures.
Although it doesn't matter because you already decided, but UCLA. I really enjoyed UCLA and wish I had gotten some money to attend there. The weather there seems amazing. Warm winters and not extremely hot summers. Perfect if you ask me.
what are the match stats like at UCLA?
Same as columbia's actually. I checked the PDF Columbia hands out and the last four years of annual reports from UCLA and each put 67 students into OMFS or Ortho over the last four years. Columbia is more OMFS heavy and UCLA is more Ortho heavy but those are the top two competitive specialties, so it's not like the schools aren't on par with each other. UCLA and Columbia students are gonna see a lot of each other on the specialty interview trail in all likelihood.
Columbia has a little bit better placement stats. Columbia puts a bunch into Pedo, Ortho and OMFS. UCLA is more so Ortho. UCLA's stats are available in their annual report.
I'm planning to go to Columbia. Although UCLA was a very, very close second.
yeah i just said i checked the last four annual reports. in-state tuition and an extra $30k off the top made ucla a very, very close first though. good luck at columbia! Maybe I'll buy myself a GT-R at graduation and call it even haha! jk
California's budget scares me though.
yeah that occurred to me too, but Columbia's four-year budget went up $10k over last year...UCLA even as bad as things are in sacramento only went up about $7k I think. Still ucla is NEVER going to be more expensive than columbia. period.
Why don't more dental schools have a chart like this on their website?
Jesus look at endo.... 1-2 people per year.... I wonder why that is.
Endo is notoriously difficult to get into.
Endo is notoriously difficult to get into.
not necessarily. it's because there is a wanning interest in the field (some might even say it's dying).
endo programs frequently prefer people with GPR or actual work experience. Hence, the #'s fresh out of school are going to seem lower since they do not account for those who end up in endo later. at least that is my understanding.
also, columbia matched 14-15 into ortho this year. take that UCLA!!!! (JK).
not necessarily. it's because there is a wanning interest in the field (some might even say it's dying).
endo programs frequently prefer people with GPR or actual work experience. Hence, the #'s fresh out of school are going to seem lower since they do not account for those who end up in endo later. at least that is my understanding.
also, columbia matched 14-15 into ortho this year. take that UCLA!!!! (JK).
Why do you think there is a dying interest in the field? I mean, it seems intriguing, low overhead cost, and the docs are compensated well.
it's not to say that all those things you list aren't attractive, they most certainly are ideal. however, one could argue that the viability (perhaps not the best word) is decreasing in the eyes of consumers. RCT always has a risk of failure, with a subsequent solution of placing an implant. sometimes, when given the choice, a patient my just skip RCT and opt for an extraction and place an implant, depending on the severity of the case.
(again, i'm not an endodontist, please feel free to correct me).
not necessarily. it's because there is a wanning interest in the field (some might even say it's dying).
endo programs frequently prefer people with GPR or actual work experience. Hence, the #'s fresh out of school are going to seem lower since they do not account for those who end up in endo later. at least that is my understanding.
also, columbia matched 14-15 into ortho this year. take that UCLA!!!! (JK).
did that columbia spike in ortho put a dent in the omfs numbers? like i said, in the last four years, (OMFS+Ortho)@Columbia = (OMFS+Ortho)@UCLA = 67. it seems like omfs and ortho both demand the most qualified applicants, so swings one way or the other year to year just depend on the preferences of the graduating class/culture of the school...
Hey flapa, do you per chance have all of Columbia's numbers for this year's placement?
they should be published on the home page of the college of dental medicine shortly.
rumor also has it that the c/o 2014 had the highest DAT scores in the country for the 3rd consecutive year . you crazy predents keep stepping up the game bigtime....
Actually now that I look at it closer...
For 2010, Columbia matched 33 of its graduates into OMFS, Ortho and Peds.... Thats like a 1/3 of the class getting into the more difficult specialties. You can also assume, these 33's CAN'T all be at the top of the class, so there is something else (aside from class rank) about this school that makes its applicants more attractive towards specialties.
I wonder how other dental schools are. I bet their numbers are no where near, or they'd post them lol
columbia ranks into thirds and ucla doesn't rank. school name plays a factor not because of "prestige" per se but because specialty programs that currently have hardvard, columbia, ucla, etc. graduates have seen how succesful they've been and that speaks highly of these respective DDS programs. Specialties are going to look highly upon a Columbia, etc. applicant if columbia grads have done well in their program in the past.
thirds? you mean there are only 3 categories you fall into? 1, 2, or last?....