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supposed "inappropriate" threads, but the racist and offensive ones (like: DO YOU RESENT URMs) stay put. It's pretty funny, don't you think?
MissMary said:I call the poll: DO YOU RESENT URMs? bold, disgusting, and hateful. The thing should have been shut down already. Period. And if this is what it takes, so be it.
MissMary said:I call the poll: DO YOU RESENT URMs? bold, disgusting, and hateful. The thing should have been shut down already. Period. And if this is what it takes, so be it.
why thank you!medhacker said:There ain't nothing wrong about calling it out. Why the need to be shy about your opinion that such topics are not handled appropriately? everyone else seems to enjoy their cyber-freedom to express how they feel, why couldn't you do the same?
Again, sister I applaud you!
um so are some of your posts...but who's counting?MissMary said:I call the poll: DO YOU RESENT URMs? bold, disgusting, and hateful. The thing should have been shut down already. Period. And if this is what it takes, so be it.
thanks for bumping my post...Psycho Doctor said:um so are some of your posts...but who's counting?
MissMary said:thanks for bumping my post...
If you find any post (or the original post/title) offensive click the red triangle under the person's profile and you can explain why you think it is offensive and it alerts the mods.MissMary said:I call the poll: DO YOU RESENT URMs? bold, disgusting, and hateful. The thing should have been shut down already. Period. And if this is what it takes, so be it.
BrettBatchelor said:If you find any post (or the original post/title) offensive click the red triangle under the person's profile and you can explain why you think it is offensive and it alerts the mods.
WHOA!!!femmedargent said:You call the post "disgusting and hateful" . While you clearly feel this is obvious, I would like to know what makes the thread disgusting or hateful in your opinion.
BrettBatchelor said:WHOA!!!
You misquoted me there.
Psycho Doctor said:um so are some of your posts...but who's counting?
MissMary said:supposed "inappropriate" threads, but the racist and offensive ones (like: DO YOU RESENT URMs) stay put. It's pretty funny, don't you think?
Let me reiterate the protocol if you want something closed down/post removed.MissMary said:Re: The OP is aware that mods are not paid to sit at a computer and monitor every post that comes up, 24 hours per day, and that they handle things when they see them.........
Isn't she?
1. there were 3 to 4 moderators monitoring the pre-allo forum since this morning. i am certain that one of them saw it. that is when the thread should have been closed.
2. the DO YOU RESENT URMs thread has been one of the top threads since it was started. not very hard to miss. you certainly didnt miss it.
3. the moderators would not have to monitor every thread, just the active ones, which are always at the top.
4. furthermore, they wouldn't even have to read all the posts. the titles itself is offensive. dont think a: DO YOU RESENT WHITE FOLKS? thread would have been taken very well either.
5. if i wanted to send a PM, i would have done so. I dont make decisions based on what others think i should do.
6. if PMing is such a good idea, why didnt the OP of the DO YOU RESENT URMs thread, just PM a few ppl, ask them questions, and get his answers that way
No, I don't find it funny. Contrary to popular opinion, the moderators of Pre-Allo and the SMods and Admins who help out are not online 24-7.MissMary said:supposed "inappropriate" threads, but the racist and offensive ones (like: DO YOU RESENT URMs) stay put. It's pretty funny, don't you think?
I highly doubt 3-4 moderators with privileges in this forum were monitoring Pre-Allo this morning. Only the moderators of Pre-Allo, Super Moderators, and Administrators have privileges in Pre-Allo. For example, if I see a bad post in Pre-Osteopathic or the Internal Medicine forums, I don't have the privileges to remove the post. And if some of these moderators with privileges on Pre-Allo were online, they may simply have missed it.MissMary said:1. there were 3 to 4 moderators monitoring the pre-allo forum since this morning. i am certain that one of them saw it. that is when the thread should have been closed.
I can't see threads when I'm not online. The first time I opened the thread, I closed it immediately after.2. the DO YOU RESENT URMs thread has been one of the top threads since it was started. not very hard to miss. you certainly didnt miss it.
If you find something inappropriate, use the Report Bad Post icon.3. the moderators would not have to monitor every thread, just the active ones, which are always at the top.
Again, I took action on the thread when I first viewed it. Your assumption that I saw the thread and just let it go is insulting.4. furthermore, they wouldn't even have to read all the posts. the titles itself is offensive. dont think a: DO YOU RESENT WHITE FOLKS? thread would have been taken very well either.
You started a thread based on an entirely faulty assumption. Instead, you could have sent a PM to the moderators or used the Report Bad Post icon and we would have acted accordingly when we had the opportunity.5. if i wanted to send a PM, i would have done so. I dont make decisions based on what others think i should do.
You're welcomeMissMary said:so we were all insulted. my apologies. thank you for closing the forum.
MissMary said:Re: The OP is aware that mods are not paid to sit at a computer and monitor every post that comes up, 24 hours per day, and that they handle things when they see them.........
Isn't she?
1. there were 3 to 4 moderators monitoring the pre-allo forum since this morning. i am certain that one of them saw it. that is when the thread should have been closed.
2. the DO YOU RESENT URMs thread has been one of the top threads since it was started. not very hard to miss. you certainly didnt miss it.
3. the moderators would not have to monitor every thread, just the active ones, which are always at the top.
4. furthermore, they wouldn't even have to read all the posts. the titles itself is offensive. dont think a: DO YOU RESENT WHITE FOLKS? thread would have been taken very well either.
5. if i wanted to send a PM, i would have done so. I dont make decisions based on what others think i should do.
6. if PMing is such a good idea, why didnt the OP of the DO YOU RESENT URMs thread, just PM a few ppl, ask them questions, and get his answers that way
Phil Anthropist said:You're welcome
RayhanS1282 said:Complaining about the Mods....that's a bannin'.
MoosePilot said:Sorry, Phil. I think you guys were out to lunch on this one. The topic is one that deserves open debate. I haven't looked at the thread, so I don't know if it went to personal attacks, but the topic itself isn't insulting by definition.
If we, as a nation, are going to help some into med school at the potential cost of others, we should be open about why and whether it's working how it was intended.
RayhanS1282 said:Complaining about the Mods....that's a bannin'.
agreedjtank said:MissMary is such an instigator.
in addition, the misuse of AA creates the very racism that it was designed to correctsleepy_dwarf said:I'm an URM and all, and I didn't find the post offensive. Yeah, racism and prejudice are out there, but its just as shameful to wipe it away like it doesn't exist. I think its useful information to me to know that I'm resented by my peers. Putting a post up doesn't create anger, it just gives it a much more visceral form which we can't ignore, which bothers some people. I can deal with people resenting me.
Phil Anthropist said:No, I don't find it funny. Contrary to popular opinion, the moderators of Pre-Allo and the SMods and Admins who help out are not online 24-7.
Your assumption that we aren't concerned with dealing with offensive threads is not only false, it's offensive to us as well.
I received close to 40 reported posts on Monday alone. On Tuesday I went through every single post again, including the posts in threads I had already closed, and deleted posts or removed text because I knew that the racist comments were still inappropriate, offensive, and viewable.
Closing the "Do you resent URMs?" thread was the first thing I did when I logged into SDN today thanks to helpful users reporting the post. Should you have any concerns in the future, PM the moderators of the respective forum or use the Report Bad Post icon.
I highly doubt 3-4 moderators with privileges in this forum were monitoring Pre-Allo this morning. Only the moderators of Pre-Allo, Super Moderators, and Administrators have privileges in Pre-Allo. For example, if I see a bad post in Pre-Osteopathic or the Internal Medicine forums, I don't have the privileges to remove the post. And if some of these moderators with privileges on Pre-Allo were online, they may simply have missed it.
I can't see threads when I'm not online. The first time I opened the thread, I closed it immediately after.
If you find something inappropriate, use the Report Bad Post icon.
Again, I took action on the thread when I first viewed it. Your assumption that I saw the thread and just let it go is insulting.
You started a thread based on an entirely faulty assumption. Instead, you could have sent a PM to the moderators or used the Report Bad Post icon and we would have acted accordingly when we had the opportunity.
Mr. Adventure said:I hear she's quite contrary...
alright, that was bad.
oh...you mean threads you personally like or dislike, and how the sdn govt might not quite be following your exact whims? pick your poison, censor everything or censor nothing. but you cant have it your cake and eat it too.MissMary said:supposed "inappropriate" threads, but the racist and offensive ones (like: DO YOU RESENT URMs) stay put. It's pretty funny, don't you think?
Phil Anthropist said:No, I don't find it funny. Contrary to popular opinion, the moderators of Pre-Allo and the SMods and Admins who help out are not online 24-7.
Your assumption that we aren't concerned with dealing with offensive threads is not only false, it's offensive to us as well.
I received close to 40 reported posts on Monday alone. On Tuesday I went through every single post again, including the posts in threads I had already closed, and deleted posts or removed text because I knew that the racist comments were still inappropriate, offensive, and viewable.
Closing the "Do you resent URMs?" thread was the first thing I did when I logged into SDN today thanks to helpful users reporting the post. Should you have any concerns in the future, PM the moderators of the respective forum or use the Report Bad Post icon.
I highly doubt 3-4 moderators with privileges in this forum were monitoring Pre-Allo this morning. Only the moderators of Pre-Allo, Super Moderators, and Administrators have privileges in Pre-Allo. For example, if I see a bad post in Pre-Osteopathic or the Internal Medicine forums, I don't have the privileges to remove the post. And if some of these moderators with privileges on Pre-Allo were online, they may simply have missed it.
I can't see threads when I'm not online. The first time I opened the thread, I closed it immediately after.
If you find something inappropriate, use the Report Bad Post icon.
Again, I took action on the thread when I first viewed it. Your assumption that I saw the thread and just let it go is insulting.
You started a thread based on an entirely faulty assumption. Instead, you could have sent a PM to the moderators or used the Report Bad Post icon and we would have acted accordingly when we had the opportunity.
you'd make a good modMoosePilot said:Maybe SDN needs a higher number of mods. The paradigm of 2-3 volunteer mods per forum is what creates this "problem" (I don't really think it's a huge issue). You could have as many as 10 mods in pre-allo and it probably wouldn't hurt anything (as long as they were chosen carefully).
i disagree. might as well reduce the number of mods and hire them, to work shifts perhaps. smaller govt. stronger and more tangible incentives. but this is just the way i think. i think too many mods running around would be chaos rather than order. theres enough tattling and outcries in pre allo as it is. let ppl work things out amongst themselves, youd think pre allo was an elementary school playground.MoosePilot said:Maybe SDN needs a higher number of mods. The paradigm of 2-3 volunteer mods per forum is what creates this "problem" (I don't really think it's a huge issue). You could have as many as 10 mods in pre-allo and it probably wouldn't hurt anything (as long as they were chosen carefully).
Very well said.MoosePilot said:Sorry, Phil. I think you guys were out to lunch on this one. The topic is one that deserves open debate. I haven't looked at the thread, so I don't know if it went to personal attacks, but the topic itself isn't insulting by definition.
If we, as a nation, are going to help some into med school at the potential cost of others, we should be open about why and whether it's working how it was intended.
medhacker said:What a bunch of brownnosers
How does the fact that MODs are volunteers make it improper to make a post to express your opinion about how they have handled a situation?
Had you complained because the post was made on the pre-allo forum as opposed to a more general forum, then there would have been more sense to your replies.
For one, this post allowed everyone to express their own sentiments to how the matter of the URM thread was handled
Now if that is a bannin' then ban away! just make sure SDN is well known for bannin people who respectfully express their discontent, even if it is discontent with the SDN "gov't" as some of you have so risibly termed those who administer the forum.
I personally see nothing wrong with making a post to make an open/public criticism about the administration of SDN, if anything it allows others to contribute to it and share if they feel the same way or not. Furthermore, it allows the MODs to provide their opinion and rectify any situation that needs be rectified. This could not possibly occur via a PM to the MODs.
In my opinion, some of you are resentful of what the OP may have said in other threads and have used this opportunity to feed a flame against her. This, again, I feel is a shame and worthy of criticism in itself.
So, if criticizing, anything or anyone (in the appropriate forum sections, that is) is a reason for bannin' then you do what you have to do! , if you do be it known you condone the suppresion of unpopular opinions and hide behind the facade of disrespect to the mods.
The OP is a member of the SDN community who somehow (correctly or incorrectly) felt that the issue of race (which pertains her in a direct manner) through a thread, was not being handled appropriately. Why should the existence of the "report" button preclude her from wanting to get a public opinion on how that thread was handled?
I truly question the intentions of your flames toward her as I do not believe you are insulted on behalf of the MOD...
Mr. Adventure said:My favorite episode of The Simpsons: "PTA Disbands"
Old Man Jaspers:
"Talking out of turn that's a paddlin
Looking out the window... that's a paddlin
Staring at my sandals... that's a paddlin
Paddlin the school canoe oh, you better believe that's a paddlin"
R, I think the Simpsons has been on since 1988. I'm having trouble with numbers but I think that's a lot of years - at least 11. And Family Guy and American Dad are quality. Oh, and they have FOX News stuff on FOX occasionally, just in case you don't get enough of it on FOX News. And that always makes me laugh. Just the other day they were dispelling the liberal media bias by showing "IRAQ: The Untold Story". Iraq is doing great, by the way. FOX News told me so.RayhanS1282 said:
Did you notice how the old Simpsons episodes were so funny and memorable but nowadays it seems so bland and forgettable? It seems like the studio is just churning out episodes simply for the sake of keeping it on air. But I guess that's the price for being on air for...what is it ...11 seasons?
Still, it's better than most of the stuff on Fox. Arrested Development was funny so of course that had to be cancelled but The OC must return for a new season.
MattD said:the post she was offended by was made shortly after MIDNIGHT, and was closed at approximately 9 am. How can she attack the moderators for not catching a post immediately that was made when most people are fast asleep? If the post were 24 hours old, truly offensive, and still up