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I am really serious about dentistry as a career.
But I have a problem.

I have a pretty low overall gpa which is is somewhat 2.1 - I know it sounds pretty pathetic. That's form the previous degree I had.
I am going to attend a 4-year pre-dental degree. So, I was wondering if there anything I could do to fix my problem. I will try to keep my science gpa as high as possible and hit at least 23 or 24 on DAT, plus get shadowing as dental offices. And retake those classes I did poorly on, my gen eds. I even thought of going to a different undergrad school. I heard that gpa gets refreshed if so. Is it for overall gpa that gets refreshed?
I heard that some dental schools like UMKC are pretty feroucious to get into.
What are my choices here? Forget and move on?
I was hoping to get at least overall gpa of 3.5 if I really bust my brain.
What are your adviced?
 
A while ago you posted this:

I know soomeone who wants to be a dentist, but his overall gpa is 2.1 or 2.2.
If he starts a new degree/gets back to school, then will these 4 four pre-dental years help him out to raise his gpa? He hopes to get 3.5 overall and science close to 3.8 (Tha't is his dream anyway). And also he is going to retake those classes that he did not do good at.
What are your opinions?

Whenever someone posts asking a questions for a friend, I always assume that he's asking for himself. But I digress...

You're in a rough spot. If you repeated your undergrad with a 4.0, you'd have just above a 3.0 to get you past the autoscreens at schools. I really don't know how you'll go from being a C student to an A student... Without that 3.0, you may get autoscreened at many schools even if you had a successful SMP(masters) performance.

I would recommend that you move on. If you really wanted to pursue dentistry, I know that if you were a Texas resident, they have a 2nd chance program that allows you to wipe your academic slate clean after a decade. Look into that or check out the under 3.0 club on the dental boards for inspiration and guidance.
 
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hum.. i dont think u will be able to reach 3.5... since u already have a degree (i suppose ~130credits?)
but u will be able to reach 3.0 then do bio related master and obtain atleast 3.8 for two years.... DAT.. u need to destory it...
 
Don't double post.
Anyways, if you have almost 0 science courses done, you can have really good BCP gpa, which could compensate for your poor overall gpa.
EVERYTHING THAT YOU TOOK WILL BE COUNTED WHEN AADSAS CALCULATE YOUR GPA. THERE IS NO REFRESHING AT ALL. You messed up, its like permanent tattoo.
Another thing is, out of about 10,000 test takers, only about 500~700 score above 23.
 
Hey man its not looking to good for you but you know that. But Cliché as it may sound, anything is possible so if you truly want to become a dentist or a Oral surgeon for god sakes you can. It requires 2 things though , Time and Dedication.

You just havent had a track record for wowing anything GPA related lately but shooting for a 3.5 is not enough you, You have to shoot for a 4.0 and not settle for anything less. If you don't feel that you can do this then find another career because as the others have mentioned you still will only be breaking the 3.0 cut off by doing this.

But remember your most recent college has the most weight to admissions so 4.0 a masters program and KILLLLL the DAT and you'll be nearly as competitive as the next bottom teir candidate at the very least.

my .o2
 
I have a 2.25 with 22 attempted credits. None of them science. I am thankful that I buckled down before things got worse. You can do it.
 
I have a 2.25 with 22 attempted credits. None of them science. I am thankful that I buckled down before things got worse. You can do it.

👍 Nice job.

See people can make a change it takes one moment to decide that you will actually commit to it though.
 
👍 Nice job.

See people can make a change it takes one moment to decide that you will actually commit to it though.

I think it takes a whole lot more than one moment - keeping that motivation to destroy each and every class for 4 years takes prolonged devotion and steadfast concentration.

OP: What was your original degree in? If you are seriously ready for another 4 years of undergrad, and you've committed yourself to altering your study/work habits - go for it, get a second degree. If you think you'll have similar results as your first time around, save yourself the tens of thousands of dollars and try to adjust your dreams a bit.
 
You might be able to get a B.S. by taking only science courses and using your other courses as non science electives to come up to the ~120 credit hours you will need. The remaining time would be better spent getting an M.S.
 
I think it takes a whole lot more than one moment - keeping that motivation to destroy each and every class for 4 years takes prolonged devotion and steadfast concentration.

OP: What was your original degree in? If you are seriously ready for another 4 years of undergrad, and you've committed yourself to altering your study/work habits - go for it, get a second degree. If you think you'll have similar results as your first time around, save yourself the tens of thousands of dollars and try to adjust your dreams a bit.

Agreed, yet it takes a split second to make the switch in your mind that you will attempt this feat with every fiber of you're being. You cant sell the idea that it doesn't because it happened that way for me, I had to constantly remind myself of the change and devote myself to the cause but it was no more than a given instance that changed everything reached by a culmination of events that made me make a change 4 semester ago and I've been a 4.0 student ever since.
 
You cant sell the idea that it doesn't because it happened that way for me, I had to constantly remind myself of the change and devote myself to the cause but it was no more than a given instance that changed everything reached by a culmination of events that made me make a change 4 semester ago and I've been a 4.0 student ever since.

Hold on, I need to catch my breath after reading that sentence.

OK - I'm not trying to sell anything, I just think it takes more than "one moment" to get good grades for FOUR years. Going from a 2.1 student to a 4.0 student takes more than just some blind hope and momentary optimism. The OP is facing an unbelievable challenge, not only to endure another four years of college, but to completely redefine themself as a student.
 
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You might be able to get a B.S. by taking only science courses and using your other courses as non science electives to come up to the ~120 credit hours you will need. The remaining time would be better spent getting an M.S.

Unfortunately I think if the OP has already received a degree using those Gen Ed classes, they are allocated specifically for that degree and cannot be used reciprocally. I looked into this at my state university and that was the case - may not be true for all institutions.
 
Opinions are like buttholes, everybody has one. For some it take a second to realize you don't like the direction your life is going in. For other it takes them years to figure it out. There are also those that get it right from the start. The important thing is that you catch yourself and get on the right path. For the OP, we all have faith that you will do fine. Do good in all your science courses maybe retake some classes if you can. You could also acquire a masters degree and that should help a lot. There is always a way, you just have to have faith in yourself that there is light at the end of the tunnel and its worth making it to the end. As long as you're breathing you truly have a chance.


Dang I should have my own life class on OWN. I've been watching a lot of Iyanla Fix My Life lol.
 
Unfortunately I think if the OP has already received a degree using those Gen Ed classes, they are allocated specifically for that degree and cannot be used reciprocally. I looked into this at my state university and that was the case - may not be true for all institutions.

When applying for a graduate program where the undergrad degree was in a different discipline, it is mandatory to fulfill the requirements for a BS degree before enrolling into grad courses. A BS degree may or may not be awarded. You mean at your university you need ~ 240 undergrad credits to have two B.S. degrees?
 
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i am really serious about dentistry as a career.
But i have a problem.

I have a pretty low overall gpa which is is somewhat 2.1 - i know it sounds pretty pathetic. That's form the previous degree i had.
I am going to attend a 4-year pre-dental degree. So, i was wondering if there anything i could do to fix my problem. I will try to keep my science gpa as high as possible and hit at least 23 or 24 on dat, plus get shadowing as dental offices. And retake those classes i did poorly on, my gen eds. I even thought of going to a different undergrad school. I heard that gpa gets refreshed if so. Is it for overall gpa that gets refreshed?
I heard that some dental schools like umkc are pretty feroucious to get into.
What are my choices here? Forget and move on?
I was hoping to get at least overall gpa of 3.5 if i really bust my brain.
What are your adviced?

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