I told a school I'd go if accepted, now not so sure

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Adcoms and deans tend to be academic physicians who are interested in medical education. PDs tend to be academic physicians who are interested in medical education. It's not crazy that these groups can overlap, but the chances of the PD of your exact program knowing about this and remembering in 4 years are pretty slim.
 
It was really an effect of the interview day and seeing some intangibles of the second school I had never really considered. Things like having extremely friendly faculty and students, great curriculum (Pass/Fail and unranked preclinical years), and brand new facilities. Basically I realized that theres more to a school then just a famous name and a good location.

Pass fail unranked?! Isn't there only a few schools in the country that do that (Yale, pen, who else?). Screw the old school who cares if you burn bridges. Go to the second school and don't look back!

Don't be disappointed if you find out they really are ranking you in all of your courses. My school was P/F, and didn't necessarily rank my classmates and I. However, we were placed into quartiles based on performance for each course. It is expected that your MSPE contains a comparison of you and your classmates when applying to residency. So, expect them to compare you to your classmates in some way.

You are right that picking a school should be based on more than a name or prestige. It has to feel right. Good luck!
 
OP and her partner were both accepted to the second school without sending letters of intent. That tells me that they were perfectly capable of being accepted to a more desirable school without the benefit of such letters. Hence, we can conclude that the letters didn't necessarily have a positive effect on their acceptance to the first school.

OP, as for your concern: The dean doesn't care, as noted above. Even if he cares, he won't remember you 4 years from now. If he remembers, it won't matter unless he's in the specialty that you're applying to and is on the residency admissions committee. But since he's a dean, he probably won't be. Even if he is on that committee, you probably won't even want to go there, given that you will probably have complex residency needs as a couple. Plus, you may not have been accepted there anyway.

Conclusion

Likelihood that this would affect you later : Pretty much zero.
 
OP you and your SO have two great options together. Pick the one you see yourselves being happier. You have little to no chance of anything happening, but it is best to be graceful in your exit because you were both given a chance somewhere.

It's troubling in the same way that is happening with some of these Jefferson posters. Calling/emailing and then getting a II that day or the next (or within minutes). Creates the perception that you can go outside the lines a little bit to help manufacture a desired result. Now everyone seems to be emailing Jefferson to see if they can trigger a II by this method (and who wouldn't if they saw this working for others?). It's like hearing that you can't influence decisions with extra calls, letters, and such, but then seeing others make it work. Same thing with the "in the area" inquiries. How is it fair for someone to get a II because they inquired about being in the area when everyone else is waiting for a II? The aura of desperation with the whole process of course is going to lead to folks exploring every angle or maneuver they can to score an acceptance, and seeing that succeed even occasionally creates a feeding frenzy. I think most just want the process to be "fair" and reflect integrity in how awarding of IIs and acceptances occur.

You're worrying too much about what everyone else is doing. Spend the energy improving your own application.

Jeff wants students who really want to be there. Prove that you want to be there in a sea of 10k apps and you'll obviously get the upper hand. I did this last year and got a end of cycle interview and was accepted at the next date. Sadly, I couldn't attend the school but it wasn't for a lack of want. Jeff was my favorite school post interview, but it was far cheaper for me to go elsewhere. A friend had similar luck last cycle with the end of cycle interview which he got after I told him to reach out to them. He's a student there now.

I talked to the Dean at Jeff about it at length and thanked her for the opportunity and explained what had happened. Even with adjustments to a few things it just didn't make any financial sense. I told her that she'd hear from me again in four years.

Life is about the intangibles sometimes. You can't really quantify how much this hurt or helped because for every person that 'succeeded' in getting the result desired, far more did not. You just don't really hear people talk about the latter because it's not really fun to tell people about.
 
You're worrying too much about what everyone else is doing. Spend the energy improving your own application.

Jeff wants students who really want to be there. Prove that you want to be there in a sea of 10k apps and you'll obviously get the upper hand. I did this last year and got a end of cycle interview and was accepted at the next date. Sadly, I couldn't attend the school but it wasn't for a lack of want. Jeff was my favorite school post interview, but it was far cheaper for me to go elsewhere. A friend had similar luck last cycle with the end of cycle interview which he got after I told him to reach out to them. He's a student there now.

I talked to the Dean at Jeff about it at length and thanked her for the opportunity and explained what had happened. Even with adjustments to a few things it just didn't make any financial sense. I told her that she'd hear from me again in four years.

Life is about the intangibles sometimes. You can't really quantify how much this hurt or helped because for every person that 'succeeded' in getting the result desired, far more did not. You just don't really hear people talk about the latter because it's not really fun to tell people about.

Understood, and your candor is appreciated. If some applicants here read here that some have successfully generated a II by the means described, of course we can expect that others will jump to tap that well, especially when the whole process creates so much frustration and desperation. I would do the same thing I'm sure (if I was an applicant). That said, I agree with adcoms here. This sort of dynamic creates a feeding frenzy and leaves room for a lot of speculation. I think most would like schools to presume that applicants want to go there. And expressing deep interest in a school in a secondary or in an update in Oct/Nov is far different from reading about applicants pulling this card in February and jumping in front of others who need/want the spot just as badly. The frenzy in regard to Jeff, despite all the great things we hear about the school, hasn't been because everyone is so in love with it (and indeed it seems your love came post-interview). A lot of folks want to get in anywhere, and when they see an opening at any place that is reasonably attractive of course they are going to jump on it. The "love" for Jeff increases exponentially when one thinks he has a chance to manufacture a better shot at an II and acceptance when he is desperate for both. I assume you encouraged your friend to reach out because he or she still needed an acceptance.
 
Understood, and your candor is appreciated. If some applicants here read here that some have successfully generated a II by the means described, of course we can expect that others will jump to tap that well, especially when the whole process creates so much frustration and desperation. I would do the same thing I'm sure (if I was an applicant). That said, I agree with adcoms here. This sort of dynamic creates a feeding frenzy and leaves room for a lot of speculation. I think most would like schools to presume that applicants want to go there. And expressing deep interest in a school in a secondary or in an update in Oct/Nov is far different from reading about applicants pulling this card in February and jumping in front of others who need/want the spot just as badly. The frenzy in regard to Jeff, despite all the great things we hear about the school, hasn't been because everyone is so in love with it (and indeed it seems your love came post-interview). A lot of folks want to get in anywhere, and when they see an opening at any place that is reasonably attractive of course they are going to jump on it. The "love" for Jeff increases exponentially when one thinks he has a chance to manufacture a better shot at an II and acceptance when he is desperate for both. I assume you encouraged your friend to reach out because he or she still needed an acceptance.

The bolded is incorrect. I had strong reasons for wanting to be in that area given I grew up close by and wanted to be closer to my family during a trying time. I moved away for college and had been away for about a decade. As I mentioned in my post, I had a strong reason for wanting to be in philadelphia despite the fact that I had other acceptances. I would still rather be in that location than here, but I'm finally at a point where I'm extremely happy with how things are going where I am now since I'm close to where I used to live (have lots of friends there still) and live about a 4-5 hr drive from home so I can take a quick trip home without disrupting my routine too much if I really need to go back.

My friend did need an acceptance, but he was also woefully clueless about the application cycle.

Regardless, I don't see what your problem is with any of these scenarios. If you want to write them a letter, then do it. No one is stopping you. Why do you care so much that other people are doing it.
 
lol you guys sent a couple letter of intent?
 
I applaud the candor. Not many people would admit calling in their connections for an admission. I guess legacies do it all the time, but they don't post here...
 
For all those wondering it wasn't Jefferson...but in any case thanks for all the help.

I really don't see it as calling in connections to get an admission, it's just being honest with an admissions dept... Told them that since we're going as a couple they'd need to get me off the waitlist if they want my BF.

And it is not like just sending in a letter of intent and suddenly I'm admitted, it telling a school that they need to accept both of us if they want either of us to come! I'm sure they'd appreciate knowing that rather than us just shutting up and my Bf withdrawing eventually...
 
lol you guys sent a couple letter of intent?

Basically...we told all the schools we applied to (usually via email or the "anything to add section") that we were applying together and would like our apps to be considered jointly
 
For all those wondering it wasn't Jefferson...but in any case thanks for all the help.

I really don't see it as calling in connections to get an admission, it's just being honest with an admissions dept... Told them that since we're going as a couple they'd need to get me off the waitlist if they want my BF.

And it is not like just sending in a letter of intent and suddenly I'm admitted, it telling a school that they need to accept both of us if they want either of us to come! I'm sure they'd appreciate knowing that rather than us just shutting up and my Bf withdrawing eventually...
Hope your boyfriend didn't word it like you did. But very glad you have options that will work well with your relationship.
 
For all those wondering it wasn't Jefferson...but in any case thanks for all the help.

I really don't see it as calling in connections to get an admission, it's just being honest with an admissions dept... Told them that since we're going as a couple they'd need to get me off the waitlist if they want my BF.

And it is not like just sending in a letter of intent and suddenly I'm admitted, it telling a school that they need to accept both of us if they want either of us to come! I'm sure they'd appreciate knowing that rather than us just shutting up and my Bf withdrawing eventually...

That is perhaps the least humble way to say that lol
 
For all those wondering it wasn't Jefferson...but in any case thanks for all the help.

I really don't see it as calling in connections to get an admission, it's just being honest with an admissions dept... Told them that since we're going as a couple they'd need to get me off the waitlist if they want my BF.

And it is not like just sending in a letter of intent and suddenly I'm admitted, it telling a school that they need to accept both of us if they want either of us to come! I'm sure they'd appreciate knowing that rather than us just shutting up and my Bf withdrawing eventually...

Gutsy move.
 
I told a girl I wanted to be her boyfriend, but now I'm not so sure

people change their minds

And people often says "till death do us part" at marriages and yet the huge number of divorces indicates otherwise...
 
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