I wasn't planning on it, but..........

[MedSchlHopeful]

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I just read another thread talking about writing that you're a minority and it working to your advantage (I've heard this before though). I actually never even considered doing that for myself, but now I'm starting to wonder... I'm 1/4 Spanish (Spain Spanish, not Latin America or Mexico, etc.), I have a VERY Spanish last name, I look very Spanish/'ethnic,' etc. But I'm also half Polish, and that's about as white as a person can get. Also, I'm not fluent in Spanish by any means, and the only Spanish I know is from high school. I don't want to write down that I'm Hispanic if I'm not technically Hispanic though. What would you do? 😕

 

[Karen12345]

I don't think you would be considered a minority. Being whatever part Spanish from Spain is not what schools are looking for.

 

[MedSchlHopeful]

I don't think you would be considered a minority. Being whatever part Spanish from Spain is not what schools are looking for.

That's what I thought too. I had a feeling that Hispanic (even though it can classically refer to people from Spain) was more meant for Latin America. Thanks! 🙂

 

[Revenant]

Sorry, I don't think you get the racial golden ticket.

 

[alwaysaangel]

Apply as Caucasian non-URM which is what you are.

If you apply as URM you will likely get caught since you don't speak spanish, have likely done no work with minorities, and have no other evidence of actually being URM.

Not worth the risk of being essentially black-listed from medical schools for lying.

 

[howdy2u]

Yes, you should apply as a URM in your application if you want the adcoms to pass around your file and laugh at you!

Don't hurt your chances by making a stupid mistake...just apply as non-URM Caucasian. If you really want to talk about your unique background (Polish, Spanish, etc.), then write about it during your secondaries (diversity essays, describe yourself, etc.).

 

[SketchLazy]

Apply as Caucasian non-URM which is what you are.

If you apply as URM you will likely get caught since you don't speak spanish, have likely done no work with minorities, and have no other evidence of actually being URM.

Not worth the risk of being essentially black-listed from medical schools for lying.

So is there really a blacklist?

 

[ssquared]

I don't think you would be considered a minority. Being whatever part Spanish from Spain is not what schools are looking for.

Yeah, you're European. Which means that you're white.

Sorry. I knew somebody in college who got in on the "I'm hispanic card" by claiming that the fact her mother was from Spain made her "spanish." People quite resented her for that.

That, and even if you were technically Hispanic, the fact that you would have no experience working in your community would reflect poorly on you, because then it would look more like you're using your background to your advantage rather than actually celebrating it.

 

[GoHop]

Yeah, you're European. Which means that you're white.

Sorry. I knew somebody in college who got in on the "I'm hispanic card" by claiming that the fact her mother was from Spain made her "spanish." People quite resented her for that.

That, and even if you were technically Hispanic, the fact that you would have no experience working in your community would reflect poorly on you, because then it would look more like you're using your background to your advantage rather than actually celebrating it.

she should have kept her mouth shut. and how is that going to look like he's using his background to his advantage?!??! he checks one box, he didn't write about it in an essay or claim to be active in the Hispanic community. he's got the last name, he may not look the part but i HIGHLY doubt they will care or question him. the only thing that is morally wrong with doing it in his situation is that he is only 1/4 spanish and is technically more white than spanish.

If they wanted latin americans they would have put latin american in the app not hispanic.

 

[ScienceJunkie]

bull$hit. the only TRUE hispanics are iberians (look up what "hispanic" actually is), including portuguese, basques, aragonese, castillians, valencians, canary islanders, andalusians, galicians, and aranese, asturians, leonese, and those from gibraltar and andorra.

hispanics outside of iberia includue Latin American and those in the phillipines/guam.

there are 20 Hispanic countries in the world, Spain being the "mother" country, or Hispanola (the Roman's name for the Iberian Penninsula).

i'm a Spanish citizen (and U.S), and i HATE it when people argue, "oh, you're not really hispanic". it's like, "F-ck off, douchebag. If you know what Hispanic even means..."...arghhh it's quite frustrating. it's even better getting these comments from mexicans speaking their corrupted version of spanish.

in fact, i once applied to a minority scholarship as Hispanic and made it to the top 10 regional finalists.
i walk in for an interview by the committee, and they stare at me. i'm not dark-skinned (most spaniards are not; southerners are tan, but not actually brown-skinned), and i look "white."

it didn't matter that i was highly qualified. or that i spoke 3 spanish dialects, and that i had an enormous cultural experience that would outdo most other "hispanic" applicants.

the first question out of their self-righteous mouths?

"you don't look hispanic."

this is why i disdain the whole URM crap--it's reverse racism. diversity is not a matter of skin color, but of cultural enrichment. it makes me furious to think i was dismissed as too white even though i was more culturally rich than some kid of mexican parents whose skin is dark, yet he doesn't know squat **** about mexican culture or even how to read and write spanish. (i was told beforehand by the secretary that they were considering me for the regional winner--after this "interview," i left empty-handed).


the point is, american political correctness and "civil rights" are obsessed about skin color. they could give a rat's ass about REAL diversity; instead, it's the amount of melanin in your skin.

/rant

 

[cruz21]

bull$hit. the only TRUE hispanics are iberians (look up what "hispanic" actually is), including portuguese, basques, aragonese, castillians, valencians, canary islanders, andalusians, galicians, and aranese, asturians, leonese, and those from gibraltar and andorra.

hispanics outside of iberia includue Latin American and those in the phillipines/guam.

there are 20 Hispanic countries in the world, Spain being the "mother" country, or Hispanola (the Roman's name for the Iberian Penninsula).

i'm a Spanish citizen (and U.S), and i HATE it when people argue, "oh, you're not really hispanic". it's like, "F-ck off, douchebag. If you know what Hispanic even means..."...arghhh it's quite frustrating. it's even better getting these comments from mexicans speaking their corrupted version of spanish.

in fact, i once applied to a minority scholarship as Hispanic and made it to the top 10 regional finalists.
i walk in for an interview by the committee, and they stare at me. i'm not dark-skinned (most spaniards are not; southerners are tan, but not actually brown-skinned), and i look "white."

it didn't matter that i was highly qualified. or that i spoke 3 spanish dialects, and that i had an enormous cultural experience that would outdo most other "hispanic" applicants.

the first question out of their self-righteous mouths?

"you don't look hispanic."

this is why i disdain the whole URM crap--it's reverse racism. diversity is not a matter of skin color, but of cultural enrichment. it makes me furious to think i was dismissed as too white even though i was more culturally rich than some kid of mexican parents whose skin is dark, yet he doesn't know squat **** about mexican culture or even how to read and write spanish. (i was told beforehand by the secretary that they were considering me for the regional winner--after this "interview," i left empty-handed).


the point is, american political correctness and "civil rights" are obsessed about skin color. they could give a rat's ass about REAL diversity; instead, it's the amount of melanin in your skin.

/rant

así es, you tell 'em brother!

 

[GoHop]

bull$hit. the only TRUE hispanics are iberians (look up what "hispanic" actually is), including portuguese, basques, aragonese, castillians, valencians, canary islanders, andalusians, galicians, and aranese, asturians, leonese, and those from gibraltar and andorra.

hispanics outside of iberia includue Latin American and those in the phillipines/guam.

there are 20 Hispanic countries in the world, Spain being the "mother" country, or Hispanola (the Roman's name for the Iberian Penninsula).

i'm a Spanish citizen (and U.S), and i HATE it when people argue, "oh, you're not really hispanic". it's like, "F-ck off, douchebag. If you know what Hispanic even means..."...arghhh it's quite frustrating. it's even better getting these comments from mexicans speaking their corrupted version of spanish.

in fact, i once applied to a minority scholarship as Hispanic and made it to the top 10 regional finalists.
i walk in for an interview by the committee, and they stare at me. i'm not dark-skinned (most spaniards are not; southerners are tan, but not actually brown-skinned), and i look "white."

it didn't matter that i was highly qualified. or that i spoke 3 spanish dialects, and that i had an enormous cultural experience that would outdo most other "hispanic" applicants.

the first question out of their self-righteous mouths?

"you don't look hispanic."

this is why i disdain the whole URM crap--it's reverse racism. diversity is not a matter of skin color, but of cultural enrichment. it makes me furious to think i was dismissed as too white even though i was more culturally rich than some kid of mexican parents whose skin is dark, yet he doesn't know squat **** about mexican culture or even how to read and write spanish. (i was told beforehand by the secretary that they were considering me for the regional winner--after this "interview," i left empty-handed).


the point is, american political correctness and "civil rights" are obsessed about skin color. they could give a rat's ass about REAL diversity; instead, it's the amount of melanin in your skin.

/rant

OMG i'm in the exact same boat as you!!!!!!!!! it is refreshing to hear from a fell Spaniard. I get **** form people all the time because i'm not tan. It pisses me off so much. I really dont think med schools are going to make as big a deal about not being dark; when it comes down to it they are a business that wants to meet their quota and fill their classes with the best students possible.

 

[riceman04]

Yeah....ummmmmmmmm...rants are pointless.

 

[ScienceJunkie]

Yeah....ummmmmmmmm...rants are pointless.

 

[bellacnella]

SDN AMAZES ME! SO MUCH INTOLERANCE...

YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET OUT MORE...you know, into the real world...

 

[foreverLaur]

Out of curiosity, how do you prove you are a URM? I am 1/8 Cherokee Indian, but don't plan to use it but I would like to know how you would prove that? We don't have birth records, but we have a lot of albums, photographis, etc and my dad has traced our history back really far. It all got started because we're related to the American that Pocahontas married (no joke).

 

[BigRedPremed]

Out of curiosity, how do you prove you are a URM? I am 1/8 Cherokee Indian, but don't plan to use it but I would like to know how you would prove that? We don't have birth records, but we have a lot of albums, photographis, etc and my dad has traced our history back really far. It all got started because we're related to the American that Pocahontas married (no joke).

Unfortunately, too much of it is judged only on looks. If you look white, you are less believable as a Native American than someone who comes in with a feather in their hair. This is more due to the biases of the adcom than out of fairness. I always thought you needed proof of tribal membership but apparently you don't.

 

[alwaysaangel]

Out of curiosity, how do you prove you are a URM? I am 1/8 Cherokee Indian, but don't plan to use it but I would like to know how you would prove that? We don't have birth records, but we have a lot of albums, photographis, etc and my dad has traced our history back really far. It all got started because we're related to the American that Pocahontas married (no joke).

At least for scholarships I've seen you either have to prove you live on a reservation or show evidence of being at least 1/4 Native American (thats the percentage requirement I've always seen). I'd imagine colleges and med schools would do something similar if needed.

 

[diggitybop]

as someone else pointed out there is a difference between hispanic and latino. not sure the way its worded on amcas but if it includes hispanic in urm category then you wouldn't technically be lying (as you are of spanish descent) but its a huge mistake on amcas's part and seems just wrong. then again applicants are put through so many hoops that if ammcas screwed up why not take advantage of it.

 

[BigRedPremed]

as someone else pointed out there is a difference between hispanic and latino. not sure the way its worded on amcas but if it includes hispanic in urm category then you wouldn't technically be lying (as you are of spanish descent) but its a huge mistake on amcas's part and seems just wrong. then again applicants are put through so many hoops that if ammcas screwed up why not take advantage of it.

The problem is that we know med schools mean "Latino" even if they put "Hispanic." If you try to check yourself off as Hispanic when you are Spanish, do you think there would be backlash from the adcoms for thinking that you are trying to game the system?

 

[Chuckwalla]

If you feel you can't get into med school yourself then go for it.

 

[howdy2u]

I seriously think that is all just bull****. I think that we have a f^cked up system when an URM can have an advantage for acceptance WHEN that person does not plan to serve an "under-represented" patient population.

For example: A 21-year-old male from Beverly Hills (who is 1/4 Cherokee Indian) should not have an advantage for gaining acceptance IF he does not plan to provide healthcare to Native Americans.

Another example: If medSchlHopeful does not plan to serve the Hispanic population (doesn't even speak Spanish), then he/she should not gain acceptance because he/she has one grandparent from Spain!

Diversity is a great thing!!! Of course, it will be great when we attend a medical school with different people from various backgrounds. It just sucks that a person can gain an unfair acceptance by pulling out the Hispanic Card with the intention of never serving the Hispanic population.

Seriously, this is just bull****!

 

[UCDavisISokay]

but that is life 😛

 

[artaxerxes]

OMG i'm in the exact same boat as you!!!!!!!!! it is refreshing to hear from a fell Spaniard. I get **** form people all the time because i'm not tan. It pisses me off so much. I really dont think med schools are going to make as big a deal about not being dark; when it comes down to it they are a business that wants to meet their quota and fill their classes with the best students possible.

Oh I'm sorry, did the Hapsburg court massacre millions of you ancestors, or ship them over from Africa as slaves? Hispanic is a de facto reference for the unique mix of ancestries that exist in latin America stemming from colonial activity of the Spanish, Portuguese, whatever. It is a big deal if your skins not dark because latin American have native american and african heritage, which you clearly don't. As a European Spaniards, You are as white as the frenchmen, several hundred miles to your north.

 

[riceman04]

yeah...that kind of sealed your fate in my mind as a dork!!!! Let me guess...you have long hair, have thick a$$ glasses, and you watch Spaceballs and Starwars on Saturday night, right?!?!?!?!?! And you probably wear all black everyday...but hell, you can probably prove all kinds of mathematical theories in a heartbeat...There were alot of people like you at Rice...I'm used to the whole nerd thing 🙄....No worries

don't get mad b/c you tried to take advantage of the system and then got shot down...grow some cajones dude and man up...stop acting all soft and pink and being all defensive.

Oh...and in the famous words of Wendy Williams: HOW YOU DOIN!!!!! paco...jote...pinche cabron

P.S. My computer is broken...can you do the whole Geek Squad thing and fix it for me???? Thanks Junkie

 

[riceman04]

I seriously think that is all just bull****. I think that we have a f^cked up system when an URM can have an advantage for acceptance WHEN that person does not plan to serve an "under-represented" patient population.

For example: A 21-year-old male from Beverly Hills (who is 1/4 Cherokee Indian) should not have an advantage for gaining acceptance IF he does not plan to provide healthcare to Native Americans.

Another example: If medSchlHopeful does not plan to serve the Hispanic population (doesn't even speak Spanish), then he/she should not gain acceptance because he/she has one grandparent from Spain!

Diversity is a great thing!!! Of course, it will be great when we attend a medical school with different people from various backgrounds. It just sucks that a person can gain an unfair acceptance by pulling out the Hispanic Card with the intention of never serving the Hispanic population.

Seriously, this is just bull****!

Too bad you are beating a dead horse...people have already made dog food out of that topic
How about discussing how badly the Trojans played on Saturday...pissed me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[GoHop]

The problem is that we know med schools mean "Latino" even if they put "Hispanic." If you try to check yourself off as Hispanic when you are Spanish, do you think there would be backlash from the adcoms for thinking that you are trying to game the system?

You act like adcoms are f-ing stupid. they know what they put down! they put down hispanic they mean hispanic! you are assuming they mean latino.

 

[GoHop]

Oh I'm sorry, did the Hapsburg court massacre millions of you ancestors, or ship them over from Africa as slaves? Hispanic is a de facto reference for the unique mix of ancestries that exist in latin America stemming from colonial activity of the Spanish, Portuguese, whatever. It is a big deal if your skins not dark because latin American have native american and african heritage, which you clearly don't. As a European Spaniards, You are as white as the frenchmen, several hundred miles to your north.

Then why dont they just put down latin american instead of hispanic? i am hispanic, i would not put down latin american.

 

[LovelyMD]

According to the AMCAS instructions, the actual category is Spanish/Hispanic/Latino/Latina, and when you check that, 4 additional categories appear. It doesn't say what the 4 categories are, but I'm thinking Mexican, Puerto Rican, and Other are 3 of the categories. Don't know what the 4th one would be though.

 

[midn]

You people need to calm down and eat more pie.

 

[riceman04]

You people need to calm down and eat more pie.

hey...what kind of pie????
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm pie is good

 

[Meatwad]

LMFAO that picture just made me chortle audibly in the middle of the library. Thanks.

 

[jbrice1639]

Yeah, you're European. Which means that you're white.

i'm sorry, i don't think this guy heard you...could you repeat that ridiculous generalization?

 

[howdy2u]

Too bad you are beating a dead horse...people have already made dog food out of that topic
How about discussing how badly the Trojans played on Saturday...pissed me off!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GrrrrrrrrrrahhHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! 16 f'ing penalties...161 f'ing yards!!!....are you kidding me?? I was at the Dodgers game while listening to the game on the radio. People were covering their kid's ears as I stood there shouting and cussing like a maniac. GRrrrrhhhHH!!!!

 

[riceman04]

GrrrrrrrrrrahhHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! 16 f'ing penalties...161 f'ing yards!!!....are you kidding me?? I was at the Dodgers game while listening to the game on the radio. People were covering their kid's ears as I stood there shouting and cussing like a maniac. GRrrrrhhhHH!!!!

Unfortunately, the refs up at Autzen (Oregon) are really going to try and help the ducks...hahaha they always do!

Interesting how USC pretty much has all of their "tough" games on the road this year.

 

[howdy2u]

Except for the Irish...lol

Yeah I'm keeping my eye on Cal. I've got 30-yard-line tickets for that game...so I'm traveling up there and hopefully bringing home a victory.

 

[UCDavisISokay]

If USC beats Cal, then even if they lose to Oregon, but not other inferior competition, they can still make it to the BCS championship. This, of course, is assuming that Cal won't lose another gaime. I think that Florida, Texas, and Oklahoma are pretty much done though.

 

[ScienceJunkie]

Oh I'm sorry, did the Hapsburg court massacre millions of you ancestors, or ship them over from Africa as slaves? Hispanic is a de facto reference for the unique mix of ancestries that exist in latin America stemming from colonial activity of the Spanish, Portuguese, whatever. It is a big deal if your skins not dark because latin American have native american and african heritage, which you clearly don't. As a European Spaniards, You are as white as the frenchmen, several hundred miles to your north.

um...did you read what i said? Hispanic includes Latin American, Iberia, and the Philippines. Technically it only means Iberia.

and so what if your ancestors were enslaved? i'm sorry that that was how history turned out. you are no better qualified than the guy next to you because of that, and i am no less qualified because my ancestors perpetrated those crimes. should we treat modern-day Germans like crap for what some of their grandfathers did in the 40s? No.

i thought that we judge people independently of their past, for better or for worse. so being dark skinned has NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT YOU'RE LIKE AS A PERSON. being of a hispanic culture does, regardless of whether you're black, brown, yellow, or pale white.

It is a big deal if your skins not dark.. You are as white as the frenchmen, several hundred miles to your north.

this is just as bad as saying that African Americans are no different than sub-Saharans. Yeah, they're black, so they're just the same.

ok...deep breath...this is exactly what i'm talking about. my skin color has no reflection of what i am like. i could be the blackest hispanic around but not know jack $hit about my country's customs, stories, or even how to speak the language itself! yet you're saying that this would make me more qualified than if i were white, but spoke the language, lived in the culture, and knew the culture?

dude, that's racism. give me a f*cking break.

 

[ScienceJunkie]

yeah...that kind of sealed your fate in my mind as a dork!!!! Let me guess...you have long hair, have thick a$$ glasses, and you watch Spaceballs and Starwars on Saturday night, right?!?!?!?!?! And you probably wear all black everyday...but hell, you can probably prove all kinds of mathematical theories in a heartbeat...There were alot of people like you at Rice...I'm used to the whole nerd thing 🙄....No worries

don't get mad b/c you tried to take advantage of the system and then got shot down...grow some cajones dude and man up...stop acting all soft and pink and being all defensive.

Oh...and in the famous words of Wendy Williams: HOW YOU DOIN!!!!! paco...jote...pinche cabron

P.S. My computer is broken...can you do the whole Geek Squad thing and fix it for me???? Thanks Junkie

lolzz wow your description is uncanny. i have large, dark-rimmed glasses (when not wearing contacts) and long hair. 😀 alas, i do not watch spaceballs and the like...LOTR FTW!!!! and you're wrong on the wearing all black, man...no emoness for me.

btw...if you're trying to sound clever by using a word from somebody's language, make sure you actually spell it right. 👎

cojones.

 

[artaxerxes]

It all works under the assumption, a fairly good one for the most part though not always, that if you are indeed latino/hispanic, you would know more about those cultures. The point is that there aren't that many Iberians living in the US who are underserved, but plenty of Latinos (I won't use hispanic) who are, and physicians of those race are who the med schools are looking for. Consquently, the theory goes that a latino doctor is going to understand their situation and be trusted more than a Spanish doctor due to shared heritage and experiences and to a certain degree language. But a again, it doesn't always pan out.

 

[ssquared]

i'm sorry, i don't think this guy heard you...could you repeat that ridiculous generalization?

I meant he would be classified as "white" under the AMCAS classifications. Sorry, that wasn't entirely clear. I'm quite aware that not everybody from Europe is white! 😳

she should have kept her mouth shut. and how is that going to look like he's using his background to his advantage?!??! he checks one box, he didn't write about it in an essay or claim to be active in the Hispanic community. he's got the last name, he may not look the part but i HIGHLY doubt they will care or question him. the only thing that is morally wrong with doing it in his situation is that he is only 1/4 spanish and is technically more white than spanish.

If they wanted latin americans they would have put latin american in the app not hispanic.

Again, I wasn't quite clear with what I meant. I think that it reflects far better upon a person to be an active participant in a community (I use the term community loosely here) than to rather just claim to be a part of it. I'm technically part of a minority group, but it's somewhat ridiculous for me to claim to be that minority when my involvement is nil. That's really what I meant. Technically, if a person is a URM, they are free to check that box on AMCAS, and I'm not saying that they shouldn't. But I also think that it would be nice to give back to the community that you came from. 🙂

 

[howdy2u]

How random is this thread?

We've got:

two people debating White = European
two people debating Hispanic = Latino/a
four people debating the fate of Pac-10
the geek swad, some cojones, pie
several URM-wannabes
and Yoda STFU!

 

[ScienceJunkie]

How random is this thread?

We've got:

two people debating White = European
two people debating Hispanic = Latino/a
four people debating the fate of Pac-10
the geek swad, some cojones, pie
several URM-wannabes
and Yoda STFU!

(sorry i just had to 😀)

 

[167649]

I love this sh**

 

[GoHop]

I meant he would be classified as "white" under the AMCAS classifications. Sorry, that wasn't entirely clear. I'm quite aware that not everybody from Europe is white! 😳



Again, I wasn't quite clear with what I meant. I think that it reflects far better upon a person to be an active participant in a community (I use the term community loosely here) than to rather just claim to be a part of it. I'm technically part of a minority group, but it's somewhat ridiculous for me to claim to be that minority when my involvement is nil. That's really what I meant. Technically, if a person is a URM, they are free to check that box on AMCAS, and I'm not saying that they shouldn't. But I also think that it would be nice to give back to the community that you came from. 🙂

Now you are making generalizations based upon what YOU think. the question is what race are you, not "what race was the community you were involved in during your life and are therefore better qualifed to be that race than someone who grew up in all all white neighborhood"

 

[BigRedPremed]

OMG i'm in the exact same boat as you!!!!!!!!! it is refreshing to hear from a fell Spaniard. I get **** form people all the time because i'm not tan. It pisses me off so much. I really dont think med schools are going to make as big a deal about not being dark; when it comes down to it they are a business that wants to meet their quota and fill their classes with the best students possible.

These two things are contradictory. Otherwise, we wouldn't have quotas.

 

[GoHop]

These two things are contradictory. Otherwise, we wouldn't have quotas.

now you're just getting picky over how i phrased it. you know i meant fill with the best possible students while taking into account their quota.

 

[SalseraDoctora]

I just read another thread talking about writing that you're a minority and it working to your advantage (I've heard this before though). I actually never even considered doing that for myself, but now I'm starting to wonder... I'm 1/4 Spanish (Spain Spanish, not Latin America or Mexico, etc.), I have a VERY Spanish last name, I look very Spanish/'ethnic,' etc. But I'm also half Polish, and that's about as white as a person can get. Also, I'm not fluent in Spanish by any means, and the only Spanish I know is from high school. I don't want to write down that I'm Hispanic if I'm not technically Hispanic though. What would you do? 😕

If you were half Spanish I would say go for it, because generally that is the criterion for cutoff for scholarships for Hispanic students, but 1/4 I don't think qualifies you.

It is funny though for anyone to say that being from Spain isn't what they mean when people say "Hispanic." That is pretty much the definition of "Hispanic" (see above millions of rants for clarification) so don't let anyone tell you differently. I am pretty sure Europeans all get grouped under "Caucasian" though, but don't quote me on it. Who understands these ridiculous and arbitrary ethnic/racial designations anyway? 🙂

 

[Meatwad]

(sorry i just had to 😀)

HOLY S***! LMFAO HBAGKAJSB gdbgdsbagdsb !!!!!! I almost died when I started scrolling down and saw the face. I was swallowing my food and almost choked to death. I had to make sure I had fully completed the mouthful before I scrolled down to read the bottom part of hte picture.

Seriously, you just made my life a sunshiney day. Best f***ing picture ever.

 

[correcaminos]

bull$hit. the only TRUE hispanics are iberians (look up what "hispanic" actually is), including portuguese, basques, aragonese, castillians, valencians, canary islanders, andalusians, galicians, and aranese, asturians, leonese, and those from gibraltar and andorra.

hispanics outside of iberia includue Latin American and those in the phillipines/guam.

there are 20 Hispanic countries in the world, Spain being the "mother" country, or Hispanola (the Roman's name for the Iberian Penninsula).

i'm a Spanish citizen (and U.S), and i HATE it when people argue, "oh, you're not really hispanic". it's like, "F-ck off, douchebag. If you know what Hispanic even means..."...arghhh it's quite frustrating. it's even better getting these comments from mexicans speaking their corrupted version of spanish.

in fact, i once applied to a minority scholarship as Hispanic and made it to the top 10 regional finalists.
i walk in for an interview by the committee, and they stare at me. i'm not dark-skinned (most spaniards are not; southerners are tan, but not actually brown-skinned), and i look "white."

it didn't matter that i was highly qualified. or that i spoke 3 spanish dialects, and that i had an enormous cultural experience that would outdo most other "hispanic" applicants.

the first question out of their self-righteous mouths?

"you don't look hispanic."

this is why i disdain the whole URM crap--it's reverse racism. diversity is not a matter of skin color, but of cultural enrichment. it makes me furious to think i was dismissed as too white even though i was more culturally rich than some kid of mexican parents whose skin is dark, yet he doesn't know squat **** about mexican culture or even how to read and write spanish. (i was told beforehand by the secretary that they were considering me for the regional winner--after this "interview," i left empty-handed).


the point is, american political correctness and "civil rights" are obsessed about skin color. they could give a rat's ass about REAL diversity; instead, it's the amount of melanin in your skin.

/rant

Yeah in this country the common usage of Hispanic basically implies people from Latinoamerica. That would be why you got the "you don't look Hispanic" comment, as foolish as it was. You are right though, you are Hispanic because you are from Spain, and this is exactly why we should cease to use this term in reference to the peoples of Latinoamerica. Man, my wife is from Guatemala, and when she first came to the US, she was like "what the **** is Hispanic?" The word should only refer to people, as you say, from the Iberian peninsula. It is effectively reducing a complex, multi-cultural, multi-racial heritage to its European component.

I also think that unfortunately when we say diversity we are not thinking of Spaniards. European Americans, we have many.

Also, I have met so many Spaniards who come over here, and talk **** about the Spanish people speak here. Since you are also a US citizen and speak English, maybe you can understand the comedy here; It is sort of like someone from England coming here and making fun of how we talk. We would say "you are the one with the accent." And having learned Spanish in Guatemala, and working with a largely Mexican and Central American population of Spanish speakers, you Iberians definitely have a marked accent.

You are way off base to call "Mexican" Spanish corrupt. What is the "real" Spanish? Is it the language as it exist in Spain today? I don't understand. Spanish in Spain today would be a corrupt version according to you because it includes 4000 or so words of Arabic origin. Before the Arabs conquered Spain it was the Gerrmanic Visigoths (guerra, orgullo). Where do we find an uncorrupt version of Spanish? Maybe Spanish was uncorrupt when it was still Latin.