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Discussion in 'Pre-Optometry' started by Steph_Opto, Mar 10, 2018.

  1. Steph_Opto

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    Anyone a part of IAUPR class of 2022? I have been accepted but still waiting on responses on other schools. Would like to get some feedback on IAUPR.
     
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    Hey! If you don’t mind me asking, what we’re your stats like? I’m thinking of applying there as well:)
     
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  5. TheREALoptometrist2015

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    also the industry discriminates against us as mediocre students and drs. and the greater majority of students (80%) end up at Americas Best. Those of us with our own practices or family owned practices are the lucky ones.
     
  6. In reading the comments from Steph_Opto I can attest to everything she said as being completely correct and if anything underplayed. If you can get into another school or if you can take off a year repeat your OAT to get a more competitive score and apply to a different school you should do it. IAUPR is really a poor institution. Not only is the school bad but the living conditions are currently atrocious. Since returning we have not had one single week with power or water. Every few days or so we lose water and power for 2-3 days consecutively. Power lines are down across the island and when the power goes out the traffic lights go out and its just a mess you cannot drive anywhere. A 2 mile ride will take an hour or more. Im previously deployed military and I would go so far to say that my time at IAUPR was worse than my time over seas especially how we are treated by the faculty and professors. I have seen students targeted by professors for no good reason other than a grudge or because they do not like the students appearance, their grades have been altered they have been treated unfairly, all grades in subjective areas such as clinicals and proficiencies are non-representative of their actual skill set. And on the opposite end if you play to their liking and kiss butt you will be granted extra time, favors, accommodations. It is a very tiring and sad place. The 1st attempt at boards part 1 is typically a pass rate of under 20%. That is because we are not prepared for boards. The professors are truly incompetent and will misinform you because their pride is so fragile they could never admit to not knowing something. You will be given powerpoint slides that have been used for decades with out of date info, wrong info and its so unorganized you cannot follow it so you will spend days reorganizing it and trying to fix the mistakes and only 10% of your time will go into actual learning. I could go on all day about everything that is messed up in this place. Trust us when we tell you this: Go to a different school. The hurricane situation was handled so poorly we are breathing in mold because nothing was cleaned properly. The clinic was destroyed yet we were forced back into it and see patients with no working sinks, molded slit lamps, and phoropters, no charts, (we had to hold SOSH charts).
     
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    Would you say its difficult to transfer out of IAUPR and into another optometry school after completing the first year?
     
  8. Its not difficult its impossible. I know personally several who have tried every single one denied. One of the students had a stellar GPA here as well and was denied 6/6 schools to transfer.
     
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    I truly hope you get in somewhere else. Whatever you do don’t come here. It’ll be the worst mistake of your life. Don’t believe the lies the school tells. They were in a terrible situation before the hurricane and now it’s 10X worse. They will tell you everything is back to normal but it isn’t. They are just struggling to fill the incoming class since no one is applying, nor should they. Frequent power outages still plague the island and school with no fix coming anytime soon. You will have class in the dark with no AC on a regular basis and you will not be cut any slack by faculty because they expect you to feel bad for them. Resentment towards people from the states was bad before and it’s only gotten much much worse. Again this is all in addition to the other much more serious issues people have already mentioned.
     
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    It is 100% impossible. IAUPR does not allow students to transfer out.
     
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  11. This is 100% accurate and if you have any doubts check the news. Yesterday a tree feel and 1million people lost power for over 8 hours. We have a test today and we could not even study because we could not charge our laptops. This is a weekly occurrence and its constant. Once a week we lost power for around 15 - 20 hours and some times we lose water for days at a time. Its so difficult to study in this environment and you will get no sympathy or help from IAUPR. They will just pile on the work and exams and give no cares. I have never been more emotional in my life than I am here its so hard here.
     
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    Sadly things like this occurred even before the hurricane. We had an incident where the city had shut off the water and we were on well water for the entire day. The school never told the students and when clinic and classes were over and everyone went home we realized there was no water to shower or even use the bathroom. The school literally Shut all the doors kicked us all out of campus. The following day we had to go to class and professors made fun of the students telling us we stink and laughing bc they knew no one showered. Some students literally went out and "showered" in the rain the following day. We didn't have water for days in the dorms and the school which had some running water locked us out of the bathrooms only allowing admin and professors to use water. power would go out constantly.
     
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    Sounds like someone from the school found out people were on here telling the truth and sent someone here to make things sound better than they are. "Spood fed" words that every lazy professor at that school uses for their lack of teaching ability. Any hard working individual can make it anywhere thats true, and many of us were very hard working and were successful but you can't deny the schools many faults....the board scores are a direct representation of just how terrible the teaching at the school is. The fact that we have the lowest board pass rates from all the schools just shows the problems.....save money???? really? HA thats actually funny. the tax rate is 11.5% and is going up to 16% soon because the country is broke. They actually pay profs more money to have summer classes bc for every student they fail they get three times the tuition. The school actually gives incentives to profs so in the long run the school will make more money. You just wait if you really are just a first yr as you say just you wait until next yr when there isn't Cultural Competency or Human Development To bolster your grade. 1st yr is a joke. Wait until next yr. We promimse you wont be singing the same tune. The beaches are amazing but the school is in the ghetto and in Bayamon has the highest crime rate of ALL Puerto Rico and crazy dangerous. Puerto Rico blames the US they just forget one tiny little detail they arent owed anything from the US gov bc they don't pay federal taxes and guess what pays for FEMA...the federal taxes they don't pay. FEMA doesn't rebuild stuff for you for free thats not their job. They help to a certain point but Puerto RIco is a busy being a little greedy they want the US to do everything for them I am in direct contact with doctors and admin at the school. they confirm the water goes out for weeks at a time as well as the electric. If UIAPRSO is the only choice you have to be an OD then go for it, but if you have other options then do yourself a favor and go anywhere but here.
     
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    So much wrong with this post that it's laughable. And I'm not even in optometry school.

    1- A first time board pass rate of 47% is not hyperbolizing. Having professors who do not teach or support you is not hyperbolizing. Power outages and in-class bias is not hyperbolizing.

    2- WTF does the US gov't have anything to do with Cuban aid? They do not pay federal taxes yet it is on the US to pay for their help? Real structural changes come from within Cuba, not on the crutches of aid from other nations. For someone who appreciates such a beautiful country and its kind people, you are very quick to point the finger.

    3- Power outages every week essentially. That is significant. Don't downplay it.

    4- You do not make better students by making them suffer. This is not the military. Education depends on a quality environment conducive to learning. When the Austrian military teaches sniper school, they make sure their soldiers are under the least amount of stress when learning, so that they retain what they learn when they enter the field. IAUPR is only making it harder for students to learn. This is the exact opposite of making a better student. Your patients do not care how tough you are, but they will care when something goes wrong because you were not able to retain what you learned.

    5- Your understanding of finances is skewed, and if it isn't-- shame on you for making such a sad excuse. You did not have an extra 60-100k. That is a sunk cost. You cheaped out on a professional degree to save money. The quality of cheaping out is quantifiable-- shown by IAUPR's attrition rate, board pass rates, clinical sites, quality of education, professional faculty. Everyone loses money in professional health school. You chose to lose it on a lower quality degree.

    https://optometriceducation.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/NBEO-Pass-Rate-Report-2016-2017-FINAL-1.pdf

    First time pass rate of 47%. That's not factoring in students who were already dropped from the program.

    I am not trying to slander previous grads from this program, but do not try to make excuses for a poor performing program. Especially when it has been quantified.
     
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  15. TheREALoptometrist2015

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    First time pass rate is actually lower, the school is attempting to skew facts and make it appear higher by reporting only allowing a certain number of students take the exam. They aren't letting students they don't believe can pass first time take part 1 anymore and EVEN THEN the pass rate is 47%. We had 54 students take it my year and only 9 passed the exam the first time.
    (also just a small error in Weirdy's post we are talking about Puerto Rico, def not discussing Cuba, LOL)
     
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    Externship sites appear to be mainly in Puerto Rico, which is also significant. Don’t want to offend any graduates, but how can you get a decent clinical experience without good rotation sites?
     
  17. TheREALoptometrist2015

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    We aren't offended we know we lack in skills and trust me, alumni are angry about the fact that the school doesn't hear our voices when it comes to making improvements. We spent 5 mon in the states rotating and 5-6mon in PR rotating through different satellite clinics. On island there are only 2 decent clinical sites were you learn and see a ton of pathology but all other sites are worthless the state side clinics aren't all terrible but most are. Some state side docs feel for us and spend extra time with us (because we lack skills) while other sites just let IAUPR students shadow only. Ill be honest I had experience prior shadowing and working in a clinic myself but its not uncommon to have 4th yrs still learning basic skills whereas other optometry students are busy refining theirs. Some of that has to do with the piss poor management of rotation sites by the rotation directors but they aren't fully to blame IAUPR students def don't get the same clinical education. Many students have optometrist parents who help teach them but if thats not your situation then there is a lot you aren't going to get at this school. They lack the resources mismanage money like crazy AND some if not most of the clinicians lack skills themselves or never took boards so they are out f touch optometry is super limited in PR as in you literally can only do refractions you cannot touch the cornea remove Foreign bodies or even dilate your patient its against the law for optometrists to dilate. The school dilates patients because we have several MD's present and dilation is done so under their license. They often try to hire any Puerto Rican student who recently graduated because there is no one else to work in the clinics so its often the blind leading the blind in clinic (i'm not joking) Students beg the school to get different rotation sites look into better sites but it doesn't happen.
     
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    Wow, I had no idea it was like that. I'm sorry to hear it was so rough!
     
  19. LOL my roommate showered in the rain with a bar of soap like 5x in one semester because of this
     
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  20. The post that is Pro-school is the admin telling OC officers to intercept the posts that are telling the truth. You don't need to be "a strong person" to survive that is the most ridiculous statement ever. You need to study to survive. Go to a school where studying is all you will need to worry about. Trust us, most are 4th years or have graduated already. We are not here telling you the truth for our benefit because we are already gone or on our way out. We are trying to stop this terrible place from lying to more students and bringing them in under false pretenses. And for those who say we are just disgruntle? Check the forum, Do you see any other schools with so many posts about issues similar to ours? You won't because those cease to happen elsewhere. My Bf is on the verge of leaving me because I am always so terribly upset from this school and always emotional. You don't need this. Optom school should be a fun ride and a place to learn, not a pseudo prison sentence.
     
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  21. TheREALoptometrist2015

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    For those who want to know, The school has what they call and "orientation committee" made up of 2nd and 3rd yrs (sometimes 1st yrs as well) to help answer any questions for the incoming class. They are often told to scour the site to look for negative commentary and to discredit what is being said. I can say the school is trying to change the perception everyone has of the school but not in anyway that is educational. They will have little get togethers and give students food and have little get togethers even the professors complain that the school wastes money on pizza parties and nothing is spend on making the education better. The have cleaned the school repainted bought new chairs for the classrooms all lovely things but try to improve board schools get better rotations work on getting better and more experienced doctors in clinic.....that they refuse to spend money on.
     
  22. TheREALoptometrist2015

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    HA another power outage in PR today, they are so "rare" I felt the need to announce
     
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    The school recently made a propaganda video full of lies about how the school “is ready for you”. This could not be further from the truth. They had the idea to concoct this farce of a video because of the low application rates. Which actually began long before the hurricane. People finally wised up and realized that you get what you pay for. This place shouldn’t even be on your radar if your thinking about optometry school. The fact is that Puerto Rico is a third world country facing enormous hardship right now. We lost power 3 times in the past two weeks, including the school. Power goes out in the middle of class or even worse when your with a patient. In fact power is out to the whole island right now! Imagine studying for classes or boards in the dark. We are approaching hurricane season again and the island is still no where near recovered from the previous season. The school is most certainly not ready for you, it never was. From the inept professors who don’t want to see you succeed to the horrible conditions of the equipment in clinic and everything in between, this is not the place for anyone, despite students in the video reading off cue cards saying; “this is the only place for me” I can fully attest that Students were coherced to participate in that video. They were in fact bribed by the school. Please don’t believe anything that the school tells you it’s all lies, and be mindful that the schools orientation committee is require to monitor these posts and lie to potential students by assuring them everything is great. The fact that administration and staff is too lazy to deal with incoming students themselves should tell you all you need to know.
     
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    WE DON’T GET ANY CLINICAL EXPERIENCE. That’s the biggest issue. Supervising clinicians and patients only speak Spanish so it is very hard if not impossible unless you are fluent. This is one thing that you will be lied to about. They will tell you that everything is in English and everyone speaks English, but it’s simply not true. Professors speak in broken English or Spanglish and are extremely predjudice against anyone who doesn’t. This is the first time of my life where I have felt discriminated against. It’s truly an awful feeling. You are expected to be 100% fluent in Spanish after first year which in addition to keeping on top of all your coursework is impossible to do. The Spanish professor is useless and will not teach you anything except how the US is to blame for all of Puerto Rico’s problems. Of course their issues couldn’t possibly have anything to do with being lazy and not wanting to work. She even told us that she lies about her income in order to get free government assistance. What a role model. She will fail you for no reason and only pass you if you suck up to her. Optometrists in PR are also not allowed to prescribe any medication whatsoever. All they are allowed to do is refract. That’s it period. So you will not get any experience with pharmaceuticals or treating any type of ocular disease. With optometry going in a more medically based direction, this is a huge concern for all current and incoming students and one that you should pay close attention to if for some reason you thought it would be a good idea to apply here.
     
  25. TheREALoptometrist2015

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    The low applications come from new stateside schools opening... Kentucky provides the equipment for students as in they aren't required to purchase it (I guess not right away) and are issued a school computer and tablet they seem to really take care of the students. That campus is gorgeous!! IAUPR campus is a rinky dink campus with a library that doesn't have enough space for even half of the student body isn't open 24hr dorms are FULL of mold all the time. Adrianna is pretty much worthless and she DOES NOT teach you Spanish that will be useful in clinic....if you want to to go a bar and ask for a beer sure she's great but she's pretty worthless. The clinic equipment is in terrible shape thats true. The whole island lies to get economic assistance and that is the real reason they are going broke because everyone is getting economic assistance the gov gives out and no one puts back in and now they are upset that there is no money to fix their crappy roads or electrical system.
     
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    Also, SOOOOOOO true that they lie and say everything is English and everyone speaks English thats a BOLD faced lie. even if they speak English ok, they haven't mastered the language enough to communicate their thoughts properly, hence the exams they give where the English is sooo bad. Dr Romero gives class in Spanish, switches to English and often will only say certain things in spanish "bc you should know" in clinic they docs complain A LOT about the fact that students can't communicate in Spanish. Want to succeed buy Rosetta Stone before going and get some Spanish in....your proficiencies are in Spanish....the profs make fun if you can't speak it well...LOL
     
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    And power is out again today which makes two days in a row........ oh but it’s so rare to lose power. This island is a dump and will never be fixed. Try applying in 2050, maybe they will have things sorted out by then but I doubt it.
     
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    IAUPR sucks they are a terrible school.
     
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    This thread is seriously great entertainment. I come to this thread a few times a week just to catch up on new posts and I am not even a prospective student since I’m already an optometry student at a different school. I feel like there should be a reality TV show for IAUPR. I don’t have any sort of input on the school since I have never gone there but it sounds like if you like drama, surprises, and telenovelas, this would be an awesome school for you. Here’s to hoping that people keep posting on this thread so that I can continue to hear more about what goes on there.
     
  30. Any prospective students this is how the last week went. We lost power 5 times this week. The longest was 12 hours and the shortest was 4 hours. 5/7 days no power. I have 3 tests next week and I have not been able to study efficiently due to the power situation. Its hard to study when your laptop is dead or its 85 degrees in your house and you can not breath. When a few of us brought this up to the faculty they told us "We are all going through it and everyone still has to take all their exams." We got no help no sympathy nothing at all. Ask yourself if this is where you want to spend 4 years and balance the difficulties of graduate school on top of everything else.
     
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    For real. The fact that there is no Whole Food, or even Chick-fil-A, in Puerto Rico makes this whole experience a thousand times worse. How can anyone study in these conditions?
     
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    Seems like something the school should have taken into mind before they took your tuition.
     
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    What always gets me is that 95-99.99% of students either couldn't get into another school or made a choice to go here. It was their only choice to become OD and instead of sucking it up and doing their best they whine about it. The issues were well publicized with the school and its NBEO scores here on this site and word of mouth so really pretty much everyone went here bc it was their only choice. We know there is major issues with the school we got it. Why discourage someone who's only choice to be an OD is here and was accepted to this school? If they take the accreditation away from the school worry then but until then just make the best of the dramatic telenovela that is IAUPR.
     
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  36. I'd just like to say that we had no power all night once again for over 15 hours. Yes the school has generators but no one every expected the living conditions on the island to be so bad. Some of us cannot live in the dorms we are either married or have children and we have to live off campus. It's completely unfair that we are now in this situation and we get no help from the school. We are fending for ourselves and still trying to pass classes the same as every other OD student only they do not have the horrible conditions we do. The professors also live here this is their home, the school is a business and they are not providing the services students were told we would get. It is not about being tough or sucking it up or any of that macho stuff its about manipulating potential students by telling them they will get one thing and then once they get here and are invested they get a completely different service than what was promised. As someone mentioned a few posts above about the new video the school released saying everything on the island is back to normal and they are all ready for us its a bold faced lie. Nothing here is back to normal at all.
     
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    It was actually my idea to make a reality show here I even pitched it to MTV. It would make so much money it’s not even funny. All the ridiculous stuff that goes on here, it’s a missed opportunity for sure haha
     
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    Except the school generator barely works because they never fill it with gas.....lol
     
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    Exactly they took our full tuition amount with no reimbursement or any compensation for the conditions we had to endure last fall and continue to endure on a daily basis. Breathing in mold for months, no clinic, no ac, no power and tests by candelight. Two students actually had to withdraw and go home do to health issues from all the mold. All of that is not an exaggeration, and if I wasn’t in my last year and about to graduate I would have never come back. Yet the staff threw themselves what is probably the most extravagant Christmas party I’ve ever seen in my life. With two full open bars, decorations, A live DJ and enough gourmet food for a small nation. Students were not even allowed in the building, clinic or library while this was going on. Meanwhile you know what students who lost everything such as clothes, vehicles, homes they were renting and thousands of dollars in equipment received? A can of chicken and a bottle of coke. If you don’t believe me I have the photos to prove it. That is how little they care about us. They told us they would take care of everything find us new places to live and do whatever we needed so we could finish out our education successfully. Too bad it was all lies just like everything else. Oh don’t let me forget, other schools we’re more than willing to take students in. In fact just about every school offered, however we were told by our dean that if we attempted to transfer or contact any other school we would be dismissed no questions asked. They wouldn’t let us leave because all they care about is our money.
     
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    The problem is they tell you that you can live in the dorms. Then they kick you out for no reason after 1 semester because they all of a sudden “don’t have space” so after that you are left to fend for yourself. The school only cares about students that live on campus as you pointed out. The problem is that choice isn’t up to us. Then there is also the fact that the school and the minions on the Orientation Comitee downplay the real issues and lie and say everything is great when it’s not so we don’t know what to expect and we have nothing to go off of except what they tell us. Incoming students should be told the truth so they can make informed decisions. I only wish someone has been honest with me before I signed up for this 4 year sentence in hell....
     
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    it’s not to discourage anyone just to lay out the facts because this is the only place you will get them. If this is the only school you got into then you should take a year work hard and apply again. That’s just my opinion looking back, but everyone is free to find out for first hand for themselves, as I know all of this is hard to imagine, but believe me it’s true. As far as this being your only shot at being an OD, you should take a look at the numbers of how many people who went to IAUPR are actually working as ODs. It’s really sad how many people have wasted four years and 250,000 to never be a doctor. I know countless people this has happened too. They are working at car washes, salons, some are opticians etc. The school does not prepare us to pass boards or enter the field as a competent OD. Right now the school is actually under review by the ASCO for this very thing since 2015. They are going to be reviewed again in 2021 and if they don’t have a set percentage of incoming students graduating and working within 6 years they will lose accreditation. I can say with extreme certainty that this will most likely be the case. So imagine coming here and wasting 3 years and then a year before graduation the school loses its accreditation. As far as I’m concerned your better of taking a year as a said and then applying elsewhere. At least then you only lose 1 year and no money instead of 3 years and hundreds of thousands. As was mentioned in a previous post there is another Optometry school that will be opening on the island in the next few years to take over when IAUPR inevitably fails miserably.
     
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    not hard to imagine, I live in PR and I know first hand the hardships we are facing. I know things you could never imagine that go on in that school behind the scenes. My point is make the best of it. This site is littered with negative commentary for IAUPR so it wasn't a secret to me that there was crazy stuff going on here. Im on my way out so I know what it was like way before and after the hurricane. The country was in crisis for a long time as was the school... oh the drama just on the campus and within the dorms is enough for reality TV, my only question is what made you come to the school? Had you researched the school before coming, housing/crime, board scores? I know many students who failed out of other schools and came here and were successful, I know students who were accepted here, declined tried as you said to work really hard and try all over again only to be rejected from all other schools yet again and had to BEG to be accepted and IAU. IAUPR is not without fault, thats not what i'm trying to say at all, but there are some really amazing professors there and the amount of pathology you'll see is second to none. I know things are rough on the island but school is doing the best it can. Also the ACOE is not currently reviewing the school. Im sorry if I had upset you, not my intention. I realize now my wording could've been less harsh.
     
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    Do you have any source you can provide for this claim?
     
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    Your right we do have a couple great professors. It just doesn’t come close to making up for all the awful ones. Most treat us with such disrespect it’s sickening, and then the others are too lazy to care or to even bother to update their slides that are 2 decades old. We learn that some drugs are the drug of choice for certain conditions, when they were actually taken off the market years ago for causing harm. Let’s not even talk about how we learned “homoatropine” instead of “homatropine”. When you start studying for boards it’s clearly evident how poor the education is. All in all the professors don’t care about us and resent us because we only come here for school and then leave to go back to the states. The problem is the school couldn’t sustain itself without us. It’s a love hate relationship for sure. I honestly didn’t do much research before I came here which is on me for sure. I relied solely on what people on sites like this and the orientation comitee had to say. Not to argue because that is not my intent, but I actually heard first hand from someone at the AOCE that the school is currently under review. The faculty also doesn’t exactly hide this fact, we were even told about it years ago. This is why the school implemented a new academic policy last year to met the demands set forth by the AOCE. It is my understanding that they are also changing the grading beginning next semester so that each class requires at least a 70% to pass. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if that doesn’t take effect for a while longer. Unfortunately all of these changes will be too little too late.
     
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    Its not exactly a secret people on the island have been talking about it for a couple years now. As far as when it will happen that’s a different story. There is a school opening elsewhere in the Caribbean within the next year or so also. I believe it’s going to be in Haiti but I’m not 100% sure. Seems like optometry schools are popping up everywhere these days lol.
     
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    the 70% to pass i'm surprised hasn't been fully implemented by now as after I finished first yr they implemented it. I will give that some profs are over it but there is a big disconnect between what type of students will actually succeed in optometry school (any school) and the school just trying to fill seats. Last year the basically accepted everyone, they asked multiple professors to interview a certain student and they all declined bc the student had gone to community college and taken the prerequisites more than once with multiple failures and was taking management classes at KFC. I kid you not. and the profs are upset bc they know they let in too many students that are not good enough to get in any school and have no chance of making it yet the school gives them that chance. Each class gets worse (in the profs perspective, NOT MINE please understand I don't feel this way, its what ive heard straight from the horses mouth) and the school is letting in too many beyond subpar students that don't have a chance in hell and the school is pretty much filled with students who didn't get in anywhere else, that the classes of 2019, 2020, 2021 are lazy, complain too much (not about electric or water issues I mean strictly academic) that many students can't or wont even follow dress code showing up to clinic looking like they just Rolled out of bed. I have seen some of this maybe not to the extreme they say. But I can tell you I sat there and had a second yr last yr show up to clerkship in jeans and tennis shoes hair wild as ever and then other students refusing to shadow upper classman and fighting NOT to see patients. This makes them angry and so the really P.I.A profs feel like if certain students aren't giving their all then they aren't going to lift a finger to help. I will admit some of the underclassman really are lazy but they (as they said to at least us during orientation) treat the class as a whole and if one person or even just a few students aren't doing well but also don't show up to class dress crazy and are disrespectful to the profs then everyone suffers. Im not saying its fair or right but, at least our class, was warned up front and from the beginning that this is how they operate so we did our best to try and keep our class in line. ***Keep in mind that no other school gives you the chances this school gives, other schools one C or failed lab/class and you are gone! they don't give you a chance at all**
     
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    As someone who's been to Haiti multiple times, I can say I sadly don't think it would be there although I wish it was. Haiti is the poorest country within the western hemisphere. While they're desperately in need of vision care; general food, shelter, and water sadly poses other issues. They have a hard enough time getting US doctors to come visit, and sadly when I went the MDs I stayed at an orphanage with were under complete culture shock. People burn trash on the streets and create their own sewage in their tents because there is no septic or trash system. Only 25% of the island has access to electricity..that's out of 10+ million people. When I was in the mountains and looking down at a good portion of the island it was pitch black at nights, only light you could see in the distance was campfire. The average annual income is less than $500 PER YEAR. So if IAUPR can hardly handle school funding then I can't even imagine the funding required in extreme poverty where unfortunately most people don't know what glasses are. When I went 3 years ago I didn't see a single person with glasses out of thousands of people I must have passed by in Port au Prince, their capital city. Most of their medical schools are also completely french/creole speaking and they receive a lot of their medical aid from Cuba nearby. I don't even think they have an english medical-related school. Most of the med-profession schools are in the UK-owned parts of the Caribbean, so I would suspect it would be in one of those areas where things aren't as extreme.

    Anyways, I've been following this IAUPR thread and the quality of education is concerning. Have any of you reported the education qualify you're receiving?
     
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    [QUOTE="Anyways, I've been following this IAUPR thread and the quality of education is concerning. Have any of you reported the education qualify you're receiving?[/QUOTE]

    Some people on here swear the school is under review, though its not on the ACOE website so I don't know how its possible for anyone to say things like there. I guess id like to see where they got this info.
     
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    I just want to say that I disagree with the fact that no other school gives you a second chance. Plenty of people who weren't doing well in my class met with faculty and instructors to determine how to improve. Instructors typically email you personally to work with you if you're struggling. There's tutoring provided by BSK members. There are office hours for TAs and instructors. Anyone is willing to meet with you one-on-one if you reach out.
    I'm sure it's like this at other schools too, not just mine.

    I also don't think it's fair to say that the amount of pathology is second to none, when none of us really know what it's like at another school. Plenty of schools have rotations at VAs, community clinics, and IHS facilities, which offer a lot of pathology.

    As to everything else, I suppose it is up to each individual applicant to do his/her own research and decide if they want to get themselves into what's going on at IAUPR and commit to completing their OD studies there. This year I've seen a lot more posts from current students than previous years, so applicants will have plenty of sources to refer to.

    Best of luck to everyone there! Wish you weren't having such a tough time.
     
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    Hey so I double checked and the school is in Haiti. They actually just opened. If you google it, it comes right up. Apparently there are only 3 ODs on the island so they are in great need of vision services as you stated. Looks like it’s a 5 year program with a class of only 16. Not sure if it will ever become an accredited school but still interesting nonetheless. Puerto Rico isn’t that far off from how you described Haiti. I’ve seen most of those things here. It’s really sad actually. Several students including myself have reported the issues at the school to the AOCE, that’s how I know the school is under review. Their website mentions schools that have preliminary accreditation, accreditation or that are accredited with conditions. They don’t list schools under review which is why people aren’t able to find it.
     
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    Some people on here swear the school is under review, though its not on the ACOE website so I don't know how its possible for anyone to say things like there. I guess id like to see where they got this info.[/QUOTE]

    They don’t list schools under review, just those that have preliminary accreditation, accreditation or accreditation with conditions.
     

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