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Yea I'm wrong I guess they do practice in all 50 states but to a very different degree (pun intended). For example there are over 5,000 in MI adn 217 in Deleware. I think I'm correct in saying they aren't well accepted in all 50 states.
 
High trump,

I didn't say that you should have only have ONE motivation for studying medicine. I think you're inferring more than you should from the passage...lool...I was just referring to people whose focus is on "becoming" a doctor, rather than "being" a doctor.

I too have other motivations (eg comfortable lifestyle, pursuing higher education) other than helping people. I dont think there is anything wrong with that. But the "pimpness" of being a doctor shouldn't be the primary motivation.
 
quideam

Good, valid, legitimate reasons for going MD over DO, esp #2. If you will just 🙄 and gag during OMM, then don't go to a DO school. People who are miserable in DO schools are those who had to settle. The people who seem to enjoy their education are those who didn't settle but decided to go to DO schools.

I have issues w/ point #3 though. Do you know the type of students at DO schools? Just going by average GPA/MCAT and stereotypes doesn't reflect the student populations. DO schools have a huge non-traditional population (compare to MD schools). A lot of people in my classes are former EMT-P, nurses, researchers, businessmen, career military people seeking a second career, etc. They bring an interesting perspective to the class. Coming straight from undergrad, I liked the fact that not everyone is in their mid/early -20s and have no real "life" experiences.

But other than my issue with point #3 (which is a personal preference), all your reasons are valid and sound.




DrBodacious

Has it occured to you that Michigan has a bigger population than Delaware? Or that there is an osteopathic medical school in Michigan (with a heavy preference for in-state residence and cheap in-state tuition) compare to Delaware which has NO medical school?
Or that Michigan have many osteopathic residencies while Delaware have very few? Perhaps the lack of DOs in the Northwest is due to the fact that the closest DO school is in Des Moines (or Vallejo)?
 
Originally posted by group_theory
quideam
DrBodacious

Has it occured to you that Michigan has a bigger population than Delaware? Or that there is an osteopathic medical school in Michigan (with a heavy preference for in-state residence and cheap in-state tuition) compare to Delaware which has NO medical school?
Or that Michigan have many osteopathic residencies while Delaware have very few? Perhaps the lack of DOs in the Northwest is due to the fact that the closest DO school is in Des Moines (or Vallejo)?
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MI has 3 times the populations as DE not 23 times. DE doesn't have any MD schools either do they? DE people need doctors too so why don't they have DOs? Answer - because they aren't well accepted. This is pretty much common knowledge.

Anyone looking to be a DO, that's great just take in to account that they are not as well accepted in all 50 states so if you want to go to Deleware because your wife gets a new great job there you'll have a harder time finding a job than in MI. I'm guessing that depends on what specialty you are a DO in as well but that's just speculation.

Also the lack of DO schools in areas of the country is probably because of the lack of [competant] people who want a DO degree in those areas and probably the lack of acceptance of DOs in those areas as well.
 
Originally posted by DrBodacious
MI has 3 times the populations as DE not 23 times. DE doesn't have any MD schools either do they? DE people need doctors too so why don't they have DOs? Answer - because they aren't well accepted. This is pretty much common knowledge.

Anyone looking to be a DO, that's great just take in to account that they are not as well accepted in all 50 states so if you want to go to Deleware because your wife gets a new great job there you'll have a harder time finding a job than in MI. I'm guessing that depends on what specialty you are a DO in as well but that's just speculation.

Also the lack of DO school acrossed the country is probably because of the lack of [competant] people who want a DO degree in those areas and probably the lack of acceptance of DOs in those areas as well.
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Define "lack of acceptance". I know that there arent alot of DO's but descriminating against them is hard to believe.
 
Originally posted by commy-superman
Define "lack of acceptance". I know that there arent alot of DO's but descriminating against them is hard to believe.
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lack of acceptance, no; less acceptance, definetly.

Yea I'm not 100% on that but I've heard it from advisors and doctors alike. Probably clinical job opportunities as well as residency opportunities. State boards of medicine have different regulations/tendencies that I don't really know anything about that might play a direct role with those, that's what I'm unclear on. If anyone knows the details on this or finds anything out, post it. I gotta go work on something else for now though.
 
Originally posted by skypilot
Forget Delaware just go become a trauma surgeon at Yale:


http://yalesurgery.med.yale.edu/surgical_spec/faculty/portereiko.html
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You found the one D.O. in all the surgery departmartments at Yale. There has to be some descrimination going on there, I wouldn't count on a job. Congrats to Joseph Portereiko, D.O. though. I just used DE as an example but CT would probably be another state where they aren't as accepted as M.D.
 
just to add to the fire. i studied abroad in england to study their healthcare system. in most cases, osteopaths worked in alternative medicine clinics, i.e. stores that gives massages, aromatherapy, etc. therefore, many people in countries such as england view osteopathic medicine as alternative, rather than mainstream/scientific, whatever you want to call it.
 
Originally posted by DrBodacious
lack of acceptance, no; less acceptance, definetly.

Yea I'm not 100% on that but I've heard it from advisors and doctors alike. Probably clinical job opportunities as well as residency opportunities. State boards of medicine have different regulations/tendencies that I don't really know anything about that might play a direct role with those, that's what I'm unclear on. If anyone knows the details on this or finds anything out, post it. I gotta go work on something else for now though.
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Rule #1: Advisors are full of ****. Learn this quickly.

Were these doctors MD's?

I'm beginning to notice that certain MD students and MD's don't dislike DO schools and even Caribbean schools because they ficticiously produce incompetant physicians, but because they exist. When a student who entered a DO school with a 3.2 undergrad and a 26 MCAT scores a 236 on the USMLE, the prestige of having a 3.6 and a 33 mcat to get into an MD school becomes meaningless. DO schools and select caribbean schools are proving that GPA and MCAT have little bearing on the quality of physician any school produces, that ultimately it is the individual that determines his success or failure as a competant physician.
 
As an osteopathic med student, I will offer my perspective.

First, DO's may practice in any of the 50 states. Some residencies are more difficult for a DO to obtain when compared to an allopathic competitor with similar grades and USMLE scores. Why? Because some bias still exists. Probably always will. But DO's may choose to pursue either an osteopathic or allopathic residency. Usually, allo provides a viable path to a career when the osteo path is flooded. There just are not enough osteo residencies to go around. As for there being less DO's in a particular geographic region, that probably has more to do with DO's not wanting to be there. Most of my fellow classmates are interested in pursuing a practice in rural areas treating the medically underserved. This tends to be the trend for osteo students, although exceptions do exist.

Secondly, people choose an osteopathic education for various reasons. Some enjoy OMM. Some must choose based on location. Some even use it as a back up to an allo education. But these students tend to be extremely unhappy and regret every aspect of their education. I was accepted to allo programs, but I chose an osteopathic education. Why not be able to offer my patients an extra treatment? I don't believe that either education is superior to the other... just that one offered something more.

Thirdly, there are more non trads in osteo programs. I really enjoy the diversity and personality that this apect brings to the program. I study alongside people that can offer a unique and interesting perspective to the material that I am assimilating. As a somewhat "older" student with a family, I sought out a program where I felt the most comfortable. Medical school is a strenuous enough endeavor without adding the detriment of not liking where one has to spend the next four years of his/her life.

My best advice is to know yourself, both strengths and weaknesses. Pursue the education that best correlates with your talents and desires. Otherwise, you'll be a miserable med student.

Hope this helps.
 
Darn it...how do I stop receiving emails for this post 🙂 These arguments are fun for the first million posts, but eventually you understand you're left where you started, just madder.

PS: Seriously, I need an answer, I need to stop getting these 🙂
 
Its in your User CP preferences at the top. There should be a option that your had turned on.

As for the arguement, I never get into it. People will have their attitudes and I am a firm believe there no matter which way your educated that you have to bust your butt if you want a good residency. Its all part of medical school.
 
And people choose Carribean schools because they like a Mediterranean climate right? It has nothing to do with their level of competence its just a personal preference...If you made that assertion to ANY D.O student or doctor without the preface of this thread they would laugh your ass out the building. But I am sure I will hear some rebuttals from the D.O's saying "yeah, its just as good as a US MD school, they still get to be surgeons etc..."
As has been said in this thread earlier MD schools are harder to get into, take higher caliber students out of the app. pool, and thereby provide a greater level of competition. I agree that the best D.O. is far better than the worst M.D. but the AVERAGE M.D. is more intelligent than the AVERAGE D.O. Just like the average Harvard grad is more intelligent than the Average state school grad. This average difference gives a level of prestige to the M.D. grads (whether they deserve it or not) and a level of stigma to the D.O. grads (also whether they deserve it or not).
 
Originally posted by dynx
And people choose Carribean schools because they like a Mediterranean climate right? It has nothing to do with their level of competence its just a personal preference...If you made that assertion to ANY D.O student or doctor without the preface of this thread they would laugh your ass out the building. But I am sure I will hear some rebuttals from the D.O's saying "yeah, its just as good as a US MD school, they still get to be surgeons etc..."
As has been said in this thread earlier MD schools are harder to get into, take higher caliber students out of the app. pool, and thereby provide a greater level of competition. I agree that the best D.O. is far better than the worst M.D. but the AVERAGE M.D. is more intelligent than the AVERAGE D.O. Just like the average Harvard grad is more intelligent than the Average state school grad. This average difference gives a level of prestige to the M.D. grads (whether they deserve it or not) and a level of stigma to the D.O. grads (also whether they deserve it or not).
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Very true! I see many DO as "I don't have the GPA or the MCAT to get into a MD school so I go a DO school". There are always exception to this, but I say the majority of people who picks DO because they can't get into MD. Therefore, the quality of the students in DO school are poorer than in MD school. Thus a Mercedes and Toyota Corolla comparison pertain. Sure, they both are doctor, but a MD has more prestige than a DO and the MD is more recognized in the world than a DO. If both are the same, then why don't third world country recognizes and accept DO as easily as MD? People reason that it is because not many people know about DO. Well there must be a reason why not many people know about DO. Maybe because nobody respect DO? Could be, or else why wouldn't other countries accept their degree to practice?

The competence level of people who go to the Carribean school or DO school just lack behind those who go to MD school.
 
Originally posted by xadmin
The competence level of people who go to the Carribean school or DO school just lack behind those who go to MD school.
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I am saddened that this is the perception even when there are those that do choose DO over MD for various reasons.

PLEASE STOP STEREOTYPING PEOPLE. ARE WE BACK IN 1915 WHEN D.W. GRIFFITH MADE BIRTH OF A NATION GLORIFYING THE KKK DEPICTING THEM AS HEROES PUTTING DOWN BLACKS!!!!

Sorry just venting. Where's the love...
 
I loved you all, but I am addressing what's the difference between DO and MD
 
Some of you people need to grow up. I have spent a lot of time working with both MDs and DOs. There are good ones and there are bad ones on both sides of the isle. I can honestly say that as a whole, I don't think that one group is better than the other. The fact is that the DO is the minority. History has proven that when a group comprises only 5% of the whole, misconceptions may run rampant. Many MDs tried to shut down the DOs for a long time and have never succeeded. The school of osteopathic medicine was originally created as an alternative to the late 1800's "the cure may be worse than the disease" practical philosophy of many physicians. Whether you like DOs or not, I believe that the competition between the MDs and DOs of the day improved the quality of healthcare for all. How can that be a bad thing?

My great-grandfather was a DO who practiced medicine in rural Missouri. He was the only doctor for miles in any direction. He practiced medicine in the days where you had to ride a horse to someone's house to deliver a baby and you were paid with bacon and chickens. He died when I was 15 at the age of 93. He still had his mind the entire time that I was growing up and I could tell that he had benefitted countless persons throughout his career with little monetary benefit for himself.

As for myself, I am applying to both MD and DO schools. I do not know for sure which I will go to. If I do become a DO, it will not be because my academics were not up to par. It will be because that is where I feel that I may serve the greatest good.

Without concern to the initials that appear behind the name, both groups of doctors help to cure people of their ailments, prevent disease, and increase the well-being of others. In light of this, I think that this debate is stupid. We are all after the same thing..........right?
 
None of you seem to have answered OP's question. He asked for reasons why people choose MD if it's similar to DO, but all of your answers have been along the lines of "MD schools are harder to get into" or "more competitive"

So basically people go to MD schools because it's harder to get into. Even if that was true, I thought people would at least lie about how they care about the "philosophy," or "atmosphere," or how one type of education would help us to better "serve the people."


All I am reading is about "scores" "gpa" "salary" "competitiveness" "big name Mercedes versus Toyota" which basically suggests $$$ and prestiege and self-esteem are the main reasons behind people's decision in choosing their education.

Are we really all going to be doctors? Damn.

This is one of the main reasons why I want to be a doctor myself because I am not going to let you "doctors" tell me about my own health.
 
Kimiwadare - people choose MD's because people running residency programs know that "MD schools are harder to get into" or "more competitive" and that atmosphere on AVERAGE puts out better students. Just like graduating from Harvard opens more doors for you and keeps more options open for you in the future than does graduating from a state school whether you are smarter than a Harvard grad or not. It may not be fair but it is the way it is and people make their decision accordingly. That said in favor of an MD school, I can think of no reason to go to a DO school other than lack of MD qualifications. This may seem like an inflammatory remark but if you think about it, the philosophy and special techniques of a DO can be added to any MD's practice if they take the time to learn them, the added prestige of going to an MD school cannot be tacked onto a DO degree. Sorry
 
Originally posted by kimiwadare
about "scores" "gpa" "salary" "competitiveness" "big name Mercedes versus Toyota" which basically suggests $$$ and prestiege and self-esteem are the main reasons behind people's decision in choosing their education.
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True, all these factors contribute to why I want to be a doctor. Doctor are respected. If they are not, I wouldn't want to be one. They make lots of cash, if they make 50k a year, I wouldn't be one.

The conception that Doctor supposed to treat and help other people is BS. Everytime I go to the doctor, he/she treats me and I pay them for their time in insurance money. Doctor don't treats me for free, so how can you reason that Doctor are there to help people in need?? They don't! I give the Doctor something they wanted, my insurance cash, and in return, I expect them to perform a service, in this case their check up routine of a patient.
 
The conception that Doctor supposed to treat and help other people is BS.
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Of course it is....why would someone be a doctor just to help people...it's ludacris!! :laugh: :laugh: 🙄 🙄

Just be sure during your interview when they ask you why you want to be a doctor, tell them the truth. Helping people is BS, it's only for the money and prestige.
 
I have no problem with you if your only concern is for money, but I'll bet that your patients would like to know that you think of them as more than extra cash in your bank account. I, for one, would rather go to a doctor that shows a geniune concern for my well-being.

There is something else that I don't understand. Why would you want to go to medical school and slave through residency only for the sake of the money. There are easier ways to be well-off than 80 hrs a week at the hospital. Devote yourself to your true love and get an MBA. It's a lot quicker, and a lot cheaper😀
 
There is something else that I don't understand. Why would you want to go to medical school and slave through residency only for the sake of the money. There are easier ways to be well-off than 80 hrs a week at the hospital. Devote yourself to your true love and get an MBA. It's a lot quicker, and a lot cheaper
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First of all, I keep hearing "there are easier ways", but how?? What other job can you make as much money with a lot less effort. MBA degrees are good....now. There has been a huge flood in the amount of people going for the MBA degrees that in the time I would finally be able to get it, it would be worthless. Almost every college major ad I see is for the MBA. And plus, how can a doctor be ranked #1 for pay, if there are "easier and better" paying jobs? Even lawyers average like $80,000. That's about half of what a doctor averages.

And by true love...I'll assume it was meant for my future wife...and yes, I would like to be able to devote more time to her 🙂 🙂 Ahh....the sarcastic comment of yours was turned into a good romantic reference. I'm just that good. 🙄
 
Originally posted by finnpipette
just to add to the fire. i studied abroad in england to study their healthcare system. in most cases, osteopaths worked in alternative medicine clinics
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That's because osteopaths in England are not trained as full physicians. They study manipulative therapy only. An American DO could still conceivably practice in England, but I don't know whether the AOA has worked out the details on it. I know practice rights are granted in several foreign countries, but couldn't tell you which ones offhand.
 
Originally posted by xadmin
True, all these factors contribute to why I want to be a doctor. Doctor are respected. If they are not, I wouldn't want to be one. They make lots of cash, if they make 50k a year, I wouldn't be one.

The conception that Doctor supposed to treat and help other people is BS. Everytime I go to the doctor, he/she treats me and I pay them for their time in insurance money. Doctor don't treats me for free, so how can you reason that Doctor are there to help people in need?? They don't! I give the Doctor something they wanted, my insurance cash, and in return, I expect them to perform a service, in this case their check up routine of a patient.
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Your post appropriately reflects the business side of medicine from both doctors' and patients' standpoints.

Patients are as human as their doctors. But unlike their doctors, they are not bound by any ethical restraint. The lack of training, passive or acquired, and the nonexistence of moral obligation do not help. There have been stories of patients stepping over the line to abuse things that are provided to them in good faith. Some patient even throws sucker punch at MD just for easy $.

Talking about $, there is a good trend that doctors will end up working for their employers somewhere. They may not be able to control the business side of medicine the way they used to. That would be some break though. No one would scorn their options for the highest available salary anymore.
 
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I have no problem with you if your only concern is for money, but I'll bet that your patients would like to know that you think of them as more than extra cash in your bank account. I, for one, would rather go to a doctor that shows a geniune concern for my well-being.

There is something else that I don't understand. Why would you want to go to medical school and slave through residency only for the sake of the money. There are easier ways to be well-off than 80 hrs a week at the hospital. Devote yourself to your true love and get an MBA. It's a lot quicker, and a lot cheaper😀
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The highest paying jobs are doctor. There is no easier way to make money, check here. This job pay well, that is why people go into it. Helping people?? Sure, doctors help the people by draining their patients check book. Is this what doctor called helping people?? So the statement that doctor is there to help people is BS. It is a mutual return. They cure their patients and their patients pay them for their service so no side owe each other anything. This concept is the same as the politician concept of "You pat my back and I will pat your back".Check here
 
Thanks for the link.

Wow, who was the one who started the crap about dentists making more than docs? It doesn't look that way on the list.

*And* its not just surgeons/anesthesiologists who make more, its the general internist as well!

Not that any of this matters to any of us anyway...
 
It doesn't apply to you? Would you really being a doctor to make $6/hr, or for the $50+/hr?

I did see that lawyer was on the list 🙂 You know, why can't lawyers have a title? MD's are called doctors, Ph.D holders are called doctors, but yet JD holders have nothing. They have the same title as a middle school drop-out. Seems unfair.
 
Does anyone have any DO match lists? It would be interesting to compare.
 
Originally posted by dynx
I can think of no reason to go to a DO school other than lack of MD qualifications.
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What if I live in Maine have a working spouse, and the only med school in Maine is NECOM?

What if I want to learn OMM?

What if I apply to only Dartmouth, UVM and NECOM and am accepted only to NECOM?

What if I want to practice rural medicine and my Osteopathic school is ranked extremely high on the list of schools for rural medicine?
 
Originally posted by Tezzie
Does anyone have any DO match lists? It would be interesting to compare.
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I am looking for them now to copy/paste, but the ones I have seen look just like MD match lists. Don't know why you expected any different.

There's a lot more primary care matches than MD, but that's expected since a lot more DO's WANT to enter primary care.

This is for KCOM:

17 Anesthesiology
1 Dermatology
9 Diagnostic Radiology
14 Emergency Medicine
1 ENT-Facial Plastic Surgery
38 Family Practice
26 Internal Medicine
6 OB/Gyn
1 Opthomology
12 Orthopedic Surgery
2 Pathology
8 Pediatrics
4 PM&R
2 Psychiatry
9 Surgery

The rest were in the Traditional Rotating year. If you want to view the location of the residencies, which I surmise is what you want, go to http://www.kcom.edu/admissns/about/intern_residencies_03.htm#a

I don't feel like looking for an MD match list, so find one yourself.
 
xadmin,

First, you really have a negative view of medicine. Judging by your comments, I think you need to seriously rethink your career choice. Don't do something you don't enjoy or believe in, because you will be miserable for the rest of your life.

Second, don't insult other doctors and doctors-to-be, by telling them that they are in it for the money, and that helping people is bs. Come work for one day in the community health clinic where I work and see how doctors will each see 40 patients from 830 - 730pm, all for free.
 
Second, don't insult other doctors and doctors-to-be, by telling them that they are in it for the money, and that helping people is bs. Come work for one day in the community health clinic where I work and see how doctors will each see 40 patients from 830 - 730pm, all for free.
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I think to be a doctor, you have to really want to help people. Unfortunately that "reason" has been told by so many unsincere people it's virtually useless now, and people will probably laugh at you if you give that as a reason.

I like to see doctors that heal people for free. I'm not saying going to some rich LA practice and giving free care to those people. Go inner city or overseas where the people truely need it, and are very grateful.


I'm still in HS trying to determine what to do. I love politics and like to heal people and help them. So I haven't yet decided whether I'll go for pre-med or pre-law. In a sense, even if I don't go pre-med, you can guarantee that I'll be there to help people. I don't see myself as the snobbish lawyer who only defends rich kids who want(or shall I say WILL) get out of doing something wrong.
 
12 ortho. wow.

Originally posted by JKDMed
I am looking for them now to copy/paste, but the ones I have seen look just like MD match lists. Don't know why you expected any different.

There's a lot more primary care matches than MD, but that's expected since a lot more DO's WANT to enter primary care.

This is for KCOM:

17 Anesthesiology
1 Dermatology
9 Diagnostic Radiology
14 Emergency Medicine
1 ENT-Facial Plastic Surgery
38 Family Practice
26 Internal Medicine
6 OB/Gyn
1 Opthomology
12 Orthopedic Surgery
2 Pathology
8 Pediatrics
4 PM&R
2 Psychiatry
9 Surgery

The rest were in the Traditional Rotating year. If you want to view the location of the residencies, which I surmise is what you want, go to http://www.kcom.edu/admissns/about/intern_residencies_03.htm#a

I don't feel like looking for an MD match list, so find one yourself.
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It is an impressive list. Most Osteopathic schools don't have very impressive match lists but may still be right for a person depending on what they are looking for out of the practice of medicine.

I think if you are not interested in OMM or rural medicine you might choose allopathic if you have acceptances to both unless there is another factor like location or cost. That is not to say your life will be over or your future determined if you choose Osteopathic! You can still become a Radiologist or Surgeon if you excel.
 
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xadmin,

First, you really have a negative view of medicine. Judging by your comments, I think you need to seriously rethink your career choice. Don't do something you don't enjoy or believe in, because you will be miserable for the rest of your life.

Second, don't insult other doctors and doctors-to-be, by telling them that they are in it for the money, and that helping people is bs. Come work for one day in the community health clinic where I work and see how doctors will each see 40 patients from 830 - 730pm, all for free.
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Your advice is very good, but there are other motives to pick a job other than to help people. Sure helping people is there, but I will help them if I get paid. What could be better? Helping people and get paid for it? Hmm....not sure if you can call this helping. Anyway, I know medicine is very tough, but you don't have to be a caring person to be a doctor. I am honest with myself. My statement are what I believed in and I am not one of those naive idealist who want to be a doctor to change the world. I want to be a doctor to support myself.
 
Anyway, I know medicine is very tough, but you don't have to be a caring person to be a doctor.
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Hmm...that's a hard one to comment on. In a way, it is the most important part of being a doctor, being caring and able to relate to the patient. On the other hand, there are very unkind stuck up doctors. So, in theory, it's extremely important and you can't be a doctor without being a caring person. Of course, there are exceptions to every theory.

PS: Accept aliens...that's one theory that is just plain true... 🙂 🙂
 
sorry to break it to you, but this isn't a great match list.


Originally posted by JKDMed
I am looking for them now to copy/paste, but the ones I have seen look just like MD match lists. Don't know why you expected any different.

There's a lot more primary care matches than MD, but that's expected since a lot more DO's WANT to enter primary care.

This is for KCOM:

17 Anesthesiology
1 Dermatology
9 Diagnostic Radiology
14 Emergency Medicine
1 ENT-Facial Plastic Surgery
38 Family Practice
26 Internal Medicine
6 OB/Gyn
1 Opthomology
12 Orthopedic Surgery
2 Pathology
8 Pediatrics
4 PM&R
2 Psychiatry
9 Surgery

The rest were in the Traditional Rotating year. If you want to view the location of the residencies, which I surmise is what you want, go to http://www.kcom.edu/admissns/about/intern_residencies_03.htm#a

I don't feel like looking for an MD match list, so find one yourself.
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With the exception of SLU hospital, all other hospitals on the list that belong to the StLouis metro area (Des Peres, etc) are not so good.

The list had a few people going to decent places and 80-90% going to whatever.
 
Originally posted by commy-superman
you are enormously wrong on some many points. I work with some DO's and I resent the implication that DO's are the "Toyata Corolla" of the medical field.
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Are you an idiot? Or are you just pretending to act like one? Maybe there are smarter MDs than DOs because there are simply more MDs. However, I don't think you have the position to say all this stuff without any experience.
 
Originally posted by davidw11
I think to be a doctor, you have to really want to help people. Unfortunately that "reason" has been told by so many unsincere people it's virtually useless now, and people will probably laugh at you if you give that as a reason.

I like to see doctors that heal people for free. I'm not saying going to some rich LA practice and giving free care to those people. Go inner city or overseas where the people truely need it, and are very grateful.


I'm still in HS trying to determine what to do. I love politics and like to heal people and help them. So I haven't yet decided whether I'll go for pre-med or pre-law. In a sense, even if I don't go pre-med, you can guarantee that I'll be there to help people. I don't see myself as the snobbish lawyer who only defends rich kids who want(or shall I say WILL) get out of doing something wrong.
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Since you have a will to sacrifice to begin with, you should highly consider medicine. As a physician, you can do your job anywhere in the world. Your presence will always benefit the community that you are in.

However, there is no need to compromise yourself with such inadeqate financial skills. Fee for a legitimate medcal service is not a definition of greed in any dictionary. Without them, you will not be able to help your patients, or anyone, as much as you would want to.

By the way, I believe Xadmin ran out of an adverb, a prefix or something to clarify that "caring person." It happens to me too often. Your attempt to be understanding is 😎
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XADMIN WROTE:

Look at this this way: a person who got accepted into Harvard and one got accepted into your local state school. Does that means a person who got accepted into a local state school is less of a person than a person from Harvard? No. However, it does means that a person who get into Harvard is the smarter one. A degree from Harvard means a lot more and is valued a lot more. Same with medical school. A MD means more than a DO. This is why 3rd world country accept MD, but not DO as a medical degree.
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.......... ok... what about his reply:

davidw11 WROTE

I think the same would apply to Harvard. If nobody felt like paying $45,000/yr for tuition and decided to go to local state schools, Harvard couldn't possibly maintain their current GPA and SAT standards. The competition wouldn't be enough.
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xadmin i am dying to find out where you go for undergrad.

aS DAVId said...... it doesnt matter. it just all depends on demographics. for example.... what about UCSF? is that a public school? YES ....but wait a minute.. GASP its top ten? YES ... look man, think before you speak, but do not speak all that you think--or type in this case.
 
Originally posted by kmnfive


xadmin i am dying to find out where you go for undergrad.

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I went to Caltech as my undergrad and majored in Mechanical Engineering. I am currently at Stanford finishing up my Master in Robotic engineering. I plan to attend medschool after I finish my Master thesis. I know there is a big market out their for artificial limbs therapy in the medical field and I plan to tap into that area. To me, the medical field is a new frontier of business opportunity.
 
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