If you are one of the 1-2% who don't match

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I just find the whole process pretty sickening myself. You have to pay the exorbitant vigorish to the corrupt Guild to have your name placed into the hat, spend another fortune traipsing around the country, and then wait for the slime balls to hand you a piece of paper with your marching orders from the Sorting Hat.
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I only scrolled down far enough to see the tip of the hat and thought you posted a picture of dog ####. Now all I can see is the dog ####.
 
You aren't actually being welcomed to the profession, though. You have 0 credentials and have yet to prove you are worthy of actually entering the guild. One school nearby this year just added another party for 1st years - "A pinning ceremony.." Apparently the M1s get a special pin placed on there white coats by M2s. And then M2 year they have another white coat ceremony. It's a pattern of completely idiotic ceremony to celebrate achieving absolutely nothing yet.

This is so stupid and a complete waste of time
 
You have to admit white coat ceremonies are incredibly stupid and a complete waste of time. It's literally a celebration over NOTHING. It's a very recent addition to medical school, and I think it has a lot to do with the declining quality of education. I've noticed an inverse correlation between quality of curriculum and administrative ceremonializing. This is not unique to medical education at all, it is simply another form of bread and circuses appeasement.

Columbia College of Physicians and Surgeons was the first to implement the white coat ceremony. I haven't see much decrease in the quality of their curriculum.

Interesting. I feel like Match Day is just so fraught with disappointment and feels that it's just not a great day for a celebration. Even the people who match are often crushed and have to hide it. I'd much rather do a graduation thing, where everyone has kind of dealt with their fate and just wants to enjoy surviving.

Most people think it IS a great day for celebration. Keep in mind that the vast majority of US MDs get their first or second choice. I think some of you are assuming that if you don't get plastics at Harvard, you become suicidal. This isn't the case at all. Even people who end up scrambling (very few US MDs) sometimes end up happy with what they got.

Seriously though I bet the same people that get real excited over this stuff are the same people that go to parties and steer the conversation toward them being a doctor. Or somehow bring it up wherever they go. You're not better than anyone else just because you're a doctor. Don't talk about it every chance you get. Don't celebrate every six weeks what you accomplished in the last month. That's something I do for my nephew when he could walk 10 steps without falling instead of 5. The crap we do just amazes me

The pinning ceremony is questionable, but overall, I've found that usually, the people who protest pretentiousness the most are usually the most pretentious people. They just try to hide it.
 
Boy, a bunch of crotchety old people in this thread. At my school the match ceremony is a hugh f-ing deal and I don't know of anyone not going except for a few unmatched people. I even think SOAPers go and open a letter... though I'm not sure of that.

It is certainly high stakes though. I saw a couple that had been together through all of med school awkwardly match into two totally separate cities. Personally, I'm going but my nerves will be through the roof - hope I won't ****, puke or cry or all at once from stress on stage.
 
You people raining down on match day are such party poopers. Wth is unprofessional about it? They just call your name, you open your envelope, and you can announce it if you want to. A culmination of 4 years of hard work and a month of anxiously waiting for that letter after submitting your rank list. There's so much emotion in that room, majority of it happy, a lot of it ecstatic.
 
I'm sure these are the same people who were complaining about white coat ceremonies four years ago.

Those evil schools having a celebration of the culmination of four years of hard work. Who could possibly enjoy celebrating a major milestone with their colleagues, friends and families?

People go to those?
 
You people raining down on match day are such party poopers. Wth is unprofessional about it? They just call your name, you open your envelope, and you can announce it if you want to. A culmination of 4 years of hard work and a month of anxiously waiting for that letter after submitting your rank list. There's so much emotion in that room, majority of it happy, a lot of it ecstatic.

Coming from a class of 250+, I'm REALLY happy we didn't call it out individually. I had a lot of fun at mine, but I think we'd be there for 4 hours otherwise.

But yeah, the couple thing... we had at least one of those, and they ended up on opposite coasts.
 
Coming from a class of 250+, I'm REALLY happy we didn't call it out individually. I had a lot of fun at mine, but I think we'd be there for 4 hours otherwise.

But yeah, the couple thing... we had at least one of those, and they ended up on opposite coasts.

We have a class size of ~150 and there are 3 deans calling out names so it goes by quickly. The whole ceremony, including a little 10 minute introduction, calling out names, and people announcing, was done in under an hour because they flew through it. Also everyone donates $1 and the last person to get called gets $150. Sucks to be the 2nd to last.

The couples match separation sounds horrible. I know a couple residents who transferred programs after intern year in order to be with their SO who matched elsewhere, but I assume this is pretty hard to do.
 
Coming from a class of 250+, I'm REALLY happy we didn't call it out individually. I had a lot of fun at mine, but I think we'd be there for 4 hours otherwise.

But yeah, the couple thing... we had at least one of those, and they ended up on opposite coasts.

Yep that happened at my school this year. Super awkward. They were both devastated and you could tell the wife was going to lose it on stage while he whispered, "It'll be ok..."
 
We have a class size of ~150 and there are 3 deans calling out names so it goes by quickly. The whole ceremony, including a little 10 minute introduction, calling out names, and people announcing, was done in under an hour because they flew through it. Also everyone donates $1 and the last person to get called gets $150. Sucks to be the 2nd to last.

The couples match separation sounds horrible. I know a couple residents who transferred programs after intern year in order to be with their SO who matched elsewhere, but I assume this is pretty hard to do.

At my school, it's required to read it aloud into a microphone and everyone pays 10 bucks. Last person gets about $1100.
 
Coming from a class of 250+, I'm REALLY happy we didn't call it out individually. I had a lot of fun at mine, but I think we'd be there for 4 hours otherwise.

But yeah, the couple thing... we had at least one of those, and they ended up on opposite coasts.

Not sure how this would happen… Unless both applicants were "reaching" AND not couples matching. Otherwise, there should be plenty of programs in most specialties clustered in a nearby geographic area (read: closer than on opposite coasts).
 
Not sure how this would happen… Unless both applicants were "reaching" AND not couples matching. Otherwise, there should be plenty of programs in most specialties clustered in a nearby geographic area (read: closer than on opposite coasts).

They could have attempted to couples match all over the country. One matched on one coast, but the spouse didn't and the other matched on the other coast.
 
Don't they usually just put the people that don't match into FM or something at their home institution?
 
This week, I've had insomnia and interrupted sleep. I think about the questions I've asked psyche patient, especially the one, "Do you feel like harming yourself?" I have never been depressed. What does it feel like? Fantasizing about playing with my own death has occurred a few times, for the first times this week. "I'm tired, Charlie. I'm tired."
 
what a horrible ceremony! are there schools that dont have one?
 
I understand why an individual might not want to go to match day themselves but why hate the ceremony itself or your classmates who decide to attend?

Match day was something my SO, her family, and my parents had been anticipating for years. I would say it was one of the top 3 days of my life so far. I got to celebrate the start of my real career with my friends I had been sweating and fighting with for 4 years to match. The emotions are something you miss out on if you are just texting your friends afterward, then it is just an afterthought.

There is nothing like watching my friends who couple matched find out they will be in the same city for residency. That is joy you can't help but see and feel good about yourself. It is something that isn't conveyed in a text. If you do not understand that and hate others for enjoying it then you should be screened for being on the autism spectrum.
 
This week, I've had insomnia and interrupted sleep. I think about the questions I've asked psyche patient, especially the one, "Do you feel like harming yourself?" I have never been depressed. What does it feel like? Fantasizing about playing with my own death has occurred a few times, for the first times this week. "I'm tired, Charlie. I'm tired."
Wtf?
 
I feel like I'm in some bizarro world here. Maybe SDN self selects for the people who intentionally avoid social contact, but I don't understand the ire directed towards Match Day ceremonies. Barring the unfortunate incident of someone not matching, the match day ceremony (whatever your school chooses to do) is a pretty fun experience. Nearly 4 years (or more, depending on how you look at it) of your lives have been leading up to this point. The vast vast majority of my classmates were very excited for Match Day, and this whole "too cool for school" attitude was nowhere to be found.

Maybe SDN has built this counterculture where caring about things isn't "cool", I don't know. Granted, my school didn't have people announce their match results, we just got called up on stage (while a 30 second clip of whatever song we chose played in the background), received our envelope and shook hands with the Dean or whoever was handing them out, dropped a $1 bill into the pot, and returned to our seats with our classmates/loved ones to open the envelope. There were varying degrees of "sharing" (a few loud outbursts of joy, more often slightly more reserved excitement). It was all a very social event and the camaraderie was fantastic.

I guess if you're one of those people who hates your classmates and thinks you're above sharing this fairly monumental event with them, the decision to abstain "makes sense", although I wouldn't agree with it.

To medical students/pre-medical students reading this thread: keep an open mind and try not to blindly follow the vocal minority here who keep trashing Match Day. Looking back on it, it was a great time. I agree with the other posters who said that Match Day really felt like the culminating ceremony to celebrate finishing medical school, and Graduation Day was almost an afterthought.
 
You people raining down on match day are such party poopers. Wth is unprofessional about it? They just call your name, you open your envelope, and you can announce it if you want to. A culmination of 4 years of hard work and a month of anxiously waiting for that letter after submitting your rank list. There's so much emotion in that room, majority of it happy, a lot of it ecstatic.

lol wait, so you're telling me you're one of those " don't shame, everyone is equal, feminism ftw" type people, yet you think shaming people regarding their career path is the way to go?

the irony is just insane.
 
lol wait, so you're telling me you're one of those " don't shame, everyone is equal, feminism ftw" type people, yet you think shaming people regarding their career path is the way to go?

the irony is just insane.

For f*ck's sake, nothing about match day is "shaming." The word belongs in the trash with phrases like "check your privilege" and "triggered."
 
I gotta believe it's pretty shameful for the people that don't match, along with the people that throw a hissyfit when they don't get the spot they want.
 
lol wait, so you're telling me you're one of those " don't shame, everyone is equal, feminism ftw" type people, yet you think shaming people regarding their career path is the way to go?

the irony is just insane.
Who is getting shamed, exactly? The people who don't match?
 
I gotta believe it's pretty shameful for the people that don't match, along with the people that throw a hissyfit when they don't get the spot they want.

The medical school is not "shaming" anyone. If you feel ashamed about not matching, don't go. If you feel shame for matching into a less desirable spot, that's on you.

Medical schools certainly have questionable motives when it comes to some practices, but Match Day really isn't one of those instances.
 
I gotta believe it's pretty shameful for the people that don't match, along with the people that throw a hissyfit when they don't get the spot they want.
Most people are jumping for joy, screaming, hugging, and crying in excitement.

At my school if you don't match then you don't go. Look, if you don't match it usually isn't by accident. It sucks but you probably ****ed something up. That's embarrassing and rightfully so if you ask me...
 
lol I'm not talking about myself and I'm 100 % sure I'm going to match....

Look it's obvious it's like showing off your pigs at a state fair.
 
lol I'm not talking about myself and I'm 100 % sure I'm going to match....

Look it's obvious it's like showing off your pigs at a state fair.

"You" was referring to the collective 'you' in my post.

I feel like you honestly don't even know what match day is.

Do you feel socially isolated at your school?
 
I think if I didn't match, "refreshments" and my friends are exactly what I'd want.

Agreed, for the people that didn't match, they want to be around friends and feel like they are still part of the group. As we all know, it can be emotionally destructive to work so hard and not match, and to save face, they fake a smile and walk in.
 
No, I don't have to admit that. Starting medical school is a major milestone and an achievement in and of itself. I see no problem having a small celebratory ceremony to welcome you to the profession.

Agreed, getting into med school was extremely difficult for me, personally, so the fact that I out of the all people made it was something to celebrate, with new friends that you'll see every day for 4 years. And the Match ceremony was seeing those SAME faces 4 year later, some changed, some the same, celebrating the fact that we matched. And again, med school was extremely difficult for me, so the fact that I passed exams, and secured a residency spot was something that I wanted to celebrate and share with all your colleagues battling in the trenches. Personally, I see nothing wrong with either ceremony whatsoever, schools should continue these till the end of time. If people don't want to come, it is their personal decision.

Hell, there were people that I talked with during WCC(and the afterparty!) that I never spoke to again, until Match Day, and when we talked, it was as if we just chatted yesterday. It's that sense of camaraderie like mentioned previously.

Oh, and noone is shamed, ever.
 
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lol wait, so you're telling me you're one of those " don't shame, everyone is equal, feminism ftw" type people, yet you think shaming people regarding their career path is the way to go?

the irony is just insane.

What is your problem? Perhaps you should start by dropping the labels, you don't know me. There's no shaming in Match Day. The few people who don't match either don't go or are just there to support their friends. And yes, people who don't match do go to the ceremony, I know one who did this year, just to be with friends and share in their celebration. The people who match lower on their list are obviously entitled to be disappointed/sad/angry, but no one is shaming them. Many people consider their med school class to be like a big family, all going through the same ups and downs over 4 years, so it's pretty obvious why the majority of people go to Match Day and enjoy it. Heck I'm a year away from matching and I was emotional at this year's match day watching my upperclassman friends open their letters and scream with joy.

So don't go to your match day. If you don't care enough to share in the emotion and camaraderie with your classmates, the feeling may be mutual.
 
I feel like I'm in some bizarro world here. Maybe SDN self selects for the people who intentionally avoid social contact, but I don't understand the ire directed towards Match Day ceremonies. Barring the unfortunate incident of someone not matching, the match day ceremony (whatever your school chooses to do) is a pretty fun experience. Nearly 4 years (or more, depending on how you look at it) of your lives have been leading up to this point. The vast vast majority of my classmates were very excited for Match Day, and this whole "too cool for school" attitude was nowhere to be found.

Maybe SDN has built this counterculture where caring about things isn't "cool", I don't know. Granted, my school didn't have people announce their match results, we just got called up on stage (while a 30 second clip of whatever song we chose played in the background), received our envelope and shook hands with the Dean or whoever was handing them out, dropped a $1 bill into the pot, and returned to our seats with our classmates/loved ones to open the envelope. There were varying degrees of "sharing" (a few loud outbursts of joy, more often slightly more reserved excitement). It was all a very social event and the camaraderie was fantastic.

I guess if you're one of those people who hates your classmates and thinks you're above sharing this fairly monumental event with them, the decision to abstain "makes sense", although I wouldn't agree with it.

To medical students/pre-medical students reading this thread: keep an open mind and try not to blindly follow the vocal minority here who keep trashing Match Day. Looking back on it, it was a great time. I agree with the other posters who said that Match Day really felt like the culminating ceremony to celebrate finishing medical school, and Graduation Day was almost an afterthought.

Everyone I see bashing match days on here are the same people that say ECs are pointless, getting a strong board score is the most important thing in the history of everything, and that anything that won't help you land the perfect residency spot is a complete waste of time. I'm not surprised at all to find that they seem to despise the match as much as they've expressed.

My school doesn't have a match day, partially because our class sizes are usually around 250 people and partially because we're DO, so we have people going through 2 separate matches (3 if you count urology). I agree, I could do without the whole 'let's put everyone on stage to announce where they matched' thing, but I would like to be there with my friends and family when I find out where I'll end up for residency. I'd like to be able to congratulate everyone that finally reached their goal and matched into one of their top spots. At the same time, if people didn't match to one of their top spots, I would think their classmates who understand exactly how much time and effort went into the last 4 years would be the ones who could relate to their pain and comfort them the best.

I also don't think it should be shameful for most people that didn't match, especially if they don't have to show up. Most people that don't match either applied to unrealistic places, were stupid about their list (didn't apply to enough places, only applied to research locations when they don't have research, etc.), or were terrible students that probably shouldn't have matched anyway.
 
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What is your problem? Perhaps you should start by dropping the labels, you don't know me. There's no shaming in Match Day. The few people who don't match either don't go or are just there to support their friends. And yes, people who don't match do go to the ceremony, I know one who did this year, just to be with friends and share in their celebration. The people who match lower on their list are obviously entitled to be disappointed/sad/angry, but no one is shaming them. Many people consider their med school class to be like a big family, all going through the same ups and downs over 4 years, so it's pretty obvious why the majority of people go to Match Day and enjoy it. Heck I'm a year away from matching and I was emotional at this year's match day watching my upperclassman friends open their letters and scream with joy.

So don't go to your match day. If you don't care enough to share in the emotion and camaraderie with your classmates, the feeling may be mutual.
If his comments here are at all indicative of his real life behavior, he may have his match day attendance decided for him.
 
Looks pretty stable over the past few years. And I'm assuming this is before the SOAP?

i don't see that specified anywhere, but i hope so.

comparing that report to the "unfilled positions" report that NRMP released on the Monday of Match Week, most of the numbers agree, but some do differ. i agree though, that 5% unmatched post-SOAP just feels too high for US seniors.
 
Everyone I see bashing match days on here are the same people that say ECs are pointless, getting a strong board score is the most important thing in the history of everything, and that anything that won't help you land the perfect residency spot is a complete waste of time. I'm not surprised at all to find that they seem to despise the match as much as they've expressed.

My school doesn't have a match day, partially because our class sizes are usually around 250 people and partially because we're DO, so we have people going through 2 separate matches (3 if you count urology). I agree, I could do without the whole 'let's put everyone on stage to announce where they matched' thing, but I would like to be there with my friends and family when I find out where I'll end up for residency. I'd like to be able to congratulate everyone that finally reached their goal and matched into one of their top spots. At the same time, if people didn't match to one of their top spots, I would think their classmates who understand exactly how much time and effort went into the last 4 years would be the ones who could relate to their pain and comfort them the best.

I also don't think it should be shameful for most people that didn't match, especially if they don't have to show up. Most people that don't match either applied to unrealistic places, were stupid about their list (didn't apply to enough places, only applied to research locations when they don't have research, etc.), or were terrible students that probably shouldn't have matched anyway.

Even if you think a "pinning" ceremony is total bullsht, being forced to sit thru it is about the least Kafka-esque thing in medical training you'll be required to do.

Preparation for future career indeed.
 
what a horrible ceremony! are there schools that dont have one?

Chill out. You're not even in med school yet. Match Day is the best day of most med students' training up til that point. Until you get there, there's no way you can judge.

lol wait, so you're telling me you're one of those " don't shame, everyone is equal, feminism ftw" type people, yet you think shaming people regarding their career path is the way to go?

the irony is just insane.

Give me a break with the melodrama. No one shames anyone on Match Day. It's a celebration and every single person is celebrating. I have yet to see someone crying in their beer (or soda) during a Match Day ceremony and I've been to several.

I gotta believe it's pretty shameful for the people that don't match, along with the people that throw a hissyfit when they don't get the spot they want.

If you don't match, you're not required to attend. And if you do attend, you're not required to tell everyone that you didn't match. The vast majority of schools don't make students announce it one at a time. Instead, everyone opens their envelopes together.
 
I feel like I'm in some bizarro world here. Maybe SDN self selects for the people who intentionally avoid social contact, but I don't understand the ire directed towards Match Day ceremonies. Barring the unfortunate incident of someone not matching, the match day ceremony (whatever your school chooses to do) is a pretty fun experience. Nearly 4 years (or more, depending on how you look at it) of your lives have been leading up to this point. The vast vast majority of my classmates were very excited for Match Day, and this whole "too cool for school" attitude was nowhere to be found

You'll notice the only people who seem to be criticizing it are the ones who haven't been through it
 
No, I don't have to admit that. Starting medical school is a major milestone and an achievement in and of itself. I see no problem having a small celebratory ceremony to welcome you to the profession.

Kind of a good thing, though. All your friends/family come to this and you don't have to feel as bad about isolating yourself from them for the next four years!
 
Not sure how this would happen… Unless both applicants were "reaching" AND not couples matching. Otherwise, there should be plenty of programs in most specialties clustered in a nearby geographic area (read: closer than on opposite coasts).

I can see how it would happen... if maybe one of the couple was looking forward to being on the opposite coast. Breaking up is hard to do, but an impartial computer can make it a lot easier.

I'm not saying that is the only way it could come about, but if you were determined to stay within 100 miles of each other, love could find a way.
 
Chill out. You're not even in med school yet. Match Day is the best day of most med students' training up til that point. Until you get there, there's no way you can judge.



Give me a break with the melodrama. No one shames anyone on Match Day. It's a celebration and every single person is celebrating. I have yet to see someone crying in their beer (or soda) during a Match Day ceremony and I've been to several.



If you don't match, you're not required to attend. And if you do attend, you're not required to tell everyone that you didn't match. The vast majority of schools don't make students announce it one at a time. Instead, everyone opens their envelopes together.

I have never jumped into an active volcano either but ive read a decription of what would happen if I did and it sounds pretty horrible as well.
 
I have never jumped into an active volcano either but ive read a decription of what would happen if I did and it sounds pretty horrible as well.

Jumping into an active volcano goes against plain common sense and if you have to read a description of what would happen to avoid it, then I don't know what to tell you. I maintain, chill out. Match Day is way off your radar and you clearly don't know a thing about it.
 
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