If you could pick any state (state residency)

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Hi - My situation is that I'm self-employed, am a post-bacc and have a year of coursework (beginning in June) to take before I can apply to med school. I can basically move anywhere in the country, and as I'm from New York, was thinking of moving to and becoming a resident of a different state to help my chances of getting into med school as well as to save $ on tuition. I was considering Texas, but don't know much about state med schools in general and whatever other factors may be important, so wanted to get some advice. I know I'd be paying more for the classes I need (4 chem and 2 bio - in NYS I'd be paying about $1000-$1200/class in state school, anywhere else probably a little over double as initially I'd be an out-of-state student), but in Texas for example, I'd save about $8k/year in state med school vs. a NY one. I'm pretty much open to any possibility in terms of relocation. I'd need to do this fairly soon though, as I'd need to start taking coursework over the summer session (start of June).
Thanks, Dave
 
with upstate, downstate, buffalo, stony brook, and about 8 other med schools, NY is up there. i'm not saying its #1, but I am saying that making a move based on this reasoning might not be worth it since you're already in one of the top states by number of state schools
 
From what I've read NY is one of the worst states to be from - there are the 4 state schools, but I've read they're some of the most competitive state schools to get into. I know private schools are also an option but I'm really preferring to go a state school due to tuition costs.

Another reason was that I need to move from where I'm living within 2 months anyway (house is being sold), and I plan to leave Long Island b/c the living costs are insane here, so I'm open to relocation.
 
Don't go to Florida a hurricane will eat you.
 
Morsetlis said:
Don't go to Florida a hurricane will eat you.
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As ridiculous as this may sound, experiencing a hurricane is totally awesome (unless, of course, you lose your house and everything in it). I've been through many and am still alive.

My biased opinion is Florida. And if you're scared of hurricanes, just don't live in Miami...they're a prime target.
 
oh wow, I'm glad florida is in the top choices of a bunch of you guys. Makes me happy I live here.
 
Definitely Texas. Kansas has a pretty good acceptance rate for in-staters, too, so i'm happy w/ KS.
 
krem1234 said:
Hi - My situation is that I'm self-employed, am a post-bacc and have a year of coursework (beginning in June) to take before I can apply to med school. I can basically move anywhere in the country, and as I'm from New York, was thinking of moving to and becoming a resident of a different state to help my chances of getting into med school as well as to save $ on tuition. I was considering Texas, but don't know much about state med schools in general and whatever other factors may be important, so wanted to get some advice. I know I'd be paying more for the classes I need (4 chem and 2 bio - in NYS I'd be paying about $1000-$1200/class in state school, anywhere else probably a little over double as initially I'd be an out-of-state student), but in Texas for example, I'd save about $8k/year in state med school vs. a NY one. I'm pretty much open to any possibility in terms of relocation. I'd need to do this fairly soon though, as I'd need to start taking coursework over the summer session (start of June).
Thanks, Dave
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Before moving anywhere you need to look at the residency requirements for the state and school(s) you're thinking of applying to. Some states are very rigid in their requirements for instate tuition, MI and MA come to mind in this respect, and require you to have lived in the state for X number of years for purposes other than education, ie. moving to the state and enrolling in college courses may exclude you from permanent residency status. I'd hate for you to move and loose your NY residency only to find you don't qualify in your new locale.
 
DrBowtie said:
Ny, pa, oh, mi, fl
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not PA. acceptance rates for IS to OOS are not HALF as good as other state schools.

Geekchick921 said:
The tuition discounts for in-state students in PA are a freakin' joke compared to other states. 🙁
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AMEN. again, PA residency should not be a reason to ever move here.

metallica81788 said:
Texas, Louisiana, Florida, Ohio, North Carolina (has the cheapest school in the country if I remember correctly).
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SC and NC have some great IS acceptance rates. GA and LA too.

loveoforganic said:
Texas
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agreed. best bet.
 
curbye said:
is it true UMass isn't taking OOS anymore?
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UMass doesn't take any OOS other than MD/PhD, and they require 5 years of continuous residency prior to application (or matriculation, I'm not sure which) for purposes other than education.
 
sustentacular said:
Before moving anywhere you need to look at the residency requirements for the state and school(s) you're thinking of applying to. Some states are very rigid in their requirements for instate tuition, MI and MA come to mind in this respect, and require you to have lived in the state for X number of years for purposes other than education, ie. moving to the state and enrolling in college courses may exclude you from permanent residency status. I'd hate for you to move and loose your NY residency only to find you don't qualify in your new locale.
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Good point - I've been researching Texas residency reqs, and you need to establish a domicile for 12 months before you apply (to medical school) - you can do that by buying property, working in Texas, or owning a business in Texas. I plan to call med schools next week to double-check everything.

I plan to look into other states as well, but Texas seems like a good bet. I was considering moving there before I became interested in med school - very low cost of living, no state income tax, and seems like a nice place to live.
 
sustentacular said:
UMass doesn't take any OOS other than MD/PhD, and they require 5 years of continuous residency prior to application (or matriculation, I'm not sure which) for purposes other than education.
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okay, thanks for clearing this up. makes sense now, the person who recommended the school was an md/phd student.
 
Uhhh I'd be really pissed if I didn't have my CA residency.
 
curbye said:
okay, thanks for clearing this up. makes sense now, the person who recommended the school was an md/phd student.
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lolwut? I'm just a lowly undergrad student who apparently doesn't know **** about residency reqs :meanie:. I just like repping MA 😎
 
allie1361 said:
As ridiculous as this may sound, experiencing a hurricane is totally awesome (unless, of course, you lose your house and everything in it). I've been through many and am still alive.

My biased opinion is Florida. And if you're scared of hurricanes, just don't live in Miami...they're a prime target.
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Surfing in hurricanes is where its at!

My house did get destroyed by one, but luckily I was like two years old so I'm sure I didn't mind as much as my parents did.

Also that was back in the days when insurance companies actually paid up without court battles
 
surftheiop said:
Surfing in hurricanes is where its at!

My house did get destroyed by one, but luckily I was like two years old so I'm sure I didn't mind as much as my parents did.

Also that was back in the days when insurance companies actually paid up without court battles
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I'm just thinking there's a really good chance you would not be here right now...
 
Come to Michigan!!!

Your chances will be great because we have Wayne State's med school, U of M's med school, Michigan State's med school, Oakland University's med school, and Central Michigan University is in the process of opening up a medical school. We also have a DO school in the state.

In state tuition for U of M is like $24,000 a year. Wayne State's is like $26,000. MSU and Oakland are a bit higher, but still. Your chances are great. Especially if you consider Wayne State has a class of 300 medical students!!!

Realistically Florida is your best shot because they take mainly Florida residents in their schools and it's a beautiful state and everything that was said above basically.
 
Like others have said: Texas. In-State works well for you and they have good schools.
If you need to be sold on it, go visit TMC in Houston. I'd give two fingers to go to one of the TMC affiliated schools.

FL otherwise.
 
utah where i grew up so I can tell them all I am a doctor and they can suck it, stupids. 🙂
 
California, or Hawaii 😉 though ideally i would prefer that we conquer the Bahamas, then I would do it there any day.
 
Actually, I amend my choice to southeast Arkansas. The acceptance rate there is unbelievably high...but it requires you to live in southeast Arkansas long enough to gain residency. I'm not convinced that's worth it.
 
TX, LA, MS, FL plus a number of other southern states.

I live in VA, and it is a pretty darn good one.

Maybe NY, but nowhere else in the northeast.

Maybe OH.

Would not want to live in CA - my 3.9/33 might not even get my foot in the door there.
 
what about vermont? Uni of Vermont gets 90 in-state applicants and interviews 67 of them? Something like that, those numbers are insane!
 
theWUbear said:
with upstate, downstate, buffalo, stony brook, and about 8 other med schools, NY is up there. i'm not saying its #1, but I am saying that making a move based on this reasoning might not be worth it since you're already in one of the top states by number of state schools
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yep. I would pick NY if I had to pick one state...TX is also good. plenty of in-state schools.

CA - think again. :laugh:
 
samuraiR said:
what about vermont? Uni of Vermont gets 90 in-state applicants and interviews 67 of them? Something like that, those numbers are insane!
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The "best" states have more than one med school, usually, plus also some sort of explicit preference for instaters. For example, there are 2 public med schools in LA, and they take 100 percent instate...pretty good odds for someone with a halfway decent app.
 
flip26 said:
The "best" states have more than one med school, usually, plus also some sort of explicit preference for instaters. For example, there are 2 public med schools in LA, and they take 100 percent instate...pretty good odds for someone with a halfway decent app.
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...and that's why I said LA - no OOS competition, unless you apply Tulane. But who would sign up for 45k when you could get 17k right next door at LSU?

I would do Texas if I had a choice, though.
 
krem1234 said:
Good point - I've been researching Texas residency reqs, and you need to establish a domicile for 12 months before you apply (to medical school) - you can do that by buying property, working in Texas, or owning a business in Texas. I plan to call med schools next week to double-check everything.

I plan to look into other states as well, but Texas seems like a good bet. I was considering moving there before I became interested in med school - very low cost of living, no state income tax, and seems like a nice place to live.
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👍 The residency reqs you found are correct. I really think Texas is the best state to have residency in when applying to medical school- you have 8 TMDSAS schools (7 MD and 1 DO) and 1 AMCAS school (Baylor). All schools included, the most you will pay for tuition is like $14,000/year. I went out of state for undergrad and I will be paying half as much for medical school as I did for undergrad. Not to mention how low cost of living in Texas is. Plus, Texas accepts 90% IS and even though Baylor is private it still accepts about 70% IS.

Also, Practitioner's advice is solid- go check out the TMC in Houston. It completely blew me away. Every school I interviewed at outside of Houston was pretty awesome too.

Good luck deciding what to do!
 
Well it's interesting to hear that several people think NY is a good state. From looking at the numbers, it seems like NY is a more average state than a bad state, in terms of the % of matriculants who end up going to a state school. So I'll also consider staying put.

Looking the references you guys posted, it does seem like Texas is a lot better though, something like 86% who get in end up going to state school, and pay about $10k per year. I'll call the Texas state schools, and make sure I can residency by next year, as I'm self-employed and plan to be a part-time student up until the point I apply. If Texas doesn't work out, I'll consider the other states you guys mentioned which also look pretty decent.

Thanks
 
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