Illegal CD roms

[jmuire]

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Just to let everyone out there know...people who are out there selling any kind of cd rom or paper copies of dental decks, kaplan, past exams are all doing this illegally. they are stealing the work of these companies and profiting from it...they shouldn't be allowed on this website

 

[DrTacoElf]

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[Jeppedo]

Don't let this happen to you!

 

[coolraz]

True it's illegal. But do you really think that it's ripping the company off?

Cmon, do you really think that kaplan course you took for $1100 was really worth that much. Hellz no, the teachers were subpar and all the basic study material coulda been bought for around $200.

Not to support illegal activity, but they should definetely bring the ridiculous prices of these services down if they want to get rid of the pirates

 

[12YearOldKid]

True it's illegal. But do you really think that it's ripping the company off?

Cmon, do you really think that kaplan course you took for $1100 was really worth that much. Hellz no, the teachers were subpar and all the basic study material coulda been bought for around $200.

Not to support illegal activity, but they should definetely bring the ridiculous prices of these services down if they want to get rid of the pirates

Using that logic I guess it would be OK to rob your dentist or his office. I mean its the dentist's own fault for charging so much, right?

The lack of ethics I see among so many dental and pre-dental students is pretty disturbing.

 

[Jeppedo]

Using that logic I guess it would be OK to rob your dentist or his office. I mean its the dentist's own fault for charging so much, right?

The lack of ethics I see among so many dental and pre-dental students is pretty disturbing.

Oh get off of your soapbox. We will all buy actual dental decks and other materials... I just hope that time I copied an entire book in undergraduate because my bookstore ran out won't come back to bite me .

 

[coral2005]

ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME????


Who cares?? Kaplan deserves it.

 

[MD2b20004]

ARE YOU GUYS KIDDING ME????


Who cares?? Kaplan deserves it.

Yes trust me, Kaplan is not suffering, they made MILLIONS if not BILLIONS and still are, regardless of the exchange and sharing of information, is it ethical to share depends if you want to be philisophical and anal, would I do it ummm prob. esp. after they ripped me off for 1300 for my MCAT exam which did not help me much on my exam, and YES I agree, the teachers are subpar and the students in your class can be annoying asking crap they already know or stuff you already know and just wasting your time. The exams could be bought for 100 bucks and is worth about the same as that entire Kaplan BS.

 

[ItsGavinC]

But it is true that these materials aren't allowed on SDN, and we try to catch them whenever possible. Of course, there are lots of posts, so...

 

[ncalcate]

Using that logic I guess it would be OK to rob your dentist or his office. I mean its the dentist's own fault for charging so much, right?

The lack of ethics I see among so many dental and pre-dental students is pretty disturbing.

So I guess copying a single MP3 from a friend of yours instead of paying $.99 for it is unethical too? Or borrowing the license key from your friend's software CD so that you don't have to buy your own software? Or photocopying six pages from a textbook so you don't have to buy it yourself? Or watching that movie that a friend of yours downloaded from a file sharing network? The list goes on... Somehow, I have a feeling that every single college student is/was guilty of one of these offenses at some point. Maybe even you?

While it is true that theft of intellectual property hurts any business, I don't think that your above comparison is quite accurate. Kaplan is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Washington Post Corporation, who just recently earned $66,000,000 in one quarter alone (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=62487&p=irol-newsArticle&t=Regular&id=778717&). Sharing of Kaplan materials will essentially have no impact on this company's earnings; theft of material from a dentist will most definitely impact his/her profitability.

 

[aphistis]

So I guess copying a single MP3 from a friend of yours instead of paying $.99 for it is unethical too? Or borrowing the license key from your friend's software CD so that you don't have to buy your own software? Or photocopying six pages from a textbook so you don't have to buy it yourself? Or watching that movie that a friend of yours downloaded from a file sharing network? The list goes on... Somehow, I have a feeling that every single college student is/was guilty of one of these offenses at some point. Maybe even you?

While it is true that theft of intellectual property hurts any business, I don't think that your above comparison is quite accurate. Kaplan is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Washington Post Corporation, who just recently earned $66,000,000 in one quarter alone (http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=62487&p=irol-newsArticle&t=Regular&id=778717&). Sharing of Kaplan materials will essentially have no impact on this company's earnings; theft of material from a dentist will most definitely impact his/her profitability.

But no amount of "they make so much that it doesn't matter if I steal a little from them" rationalization will make it legal or ethical. 😉

 

[drdmddds]

But no amount of "they make so much that it doesn't matter if I steal a little from them" rationalization will make it legal or ethical. 😉

legal no...ethical...maybe has anyone seen the documentary "the corporation" kaplan is probaly underpaying teachers and skimping on the quality of their product to maximize profits. Is that ethical???

 

[Rezdawg]

The lack of ethics I see among so many dental and pre-dental students is pretty disturbing.

Dude, gimme a break.

 

[toofache32]

Why is everyone just now getting all ethical? I've been yelling for a year now over on the international site how people are selling stolen board exams.

I don't see the problem with sharing something that's already been paid for, but selling it for a profit is another story.

 

[aphistis]

legal no...ethical...maybe has anyone seen the documentary "the corporation" kaplan is probaly underpaying teachers and skimping on the quality of their product to maximize profits. Is that ethical???

That's unethical, yes, but it's also completely hypothetical. Unless you can pony up some evidence suggesting that's what actually happens, what-if's don't really amount to anything.

 

[rocknightmare]

hrm why are people so fake!?@?!@ it really disguses me.. don't look at what "i" do. just look at what "you" do and we all be fine.

now who is willing to send me e-mail of old exams?? 😉

 

[TucsonDDS]

hrm why are people so fake!?@?!@ it really disguses me.. don't look at what "i" do. just look at what "you" do and we all be fine.

now who is willing to send me e-mail of old exams?? 😉

Whats your email??

 

[starvinstudent]

But no amount of "they make so much that it doesn't matter if I steal a little from them" rationalization will make it legal or ethical. 😉

I agree with you. thats why I have just been giving it away and takin donations.

 

[jmuire]

I agree with you. thats why I have just been giving it away and takin donations.

do what you want... that's my opinion.. i was thinking more of dental decks than kaplan.
i hope all you people who think its cool to steal feel the same way when you're chasing people down who don't pay their bills for dental work you perform on them ...

 

[aphistis]

do what you want... that's my opinion.. i was thinking more of dental decks than kaplan.
i hope all you people who think its cool to steal feel the same way when you're chasing people down who don't pay their bills for dental work you perform on them ...

Nice. 👍

 

[786mine]

I feel most of you who raising the red flag, are a bunch of idiots. why do you ask? you are comparing a dentist's office to a multi-million dollar company. i honestly would have no remorse or regret buying a used copy from a friend etc, (mind you, I did not do such a thing, I am just saying, I would have no remorse).

Now let me put an example up, if you buy something from BestBuy and you buy some coupons and gift cards that are worth $1000 for less then $300, and say you bought a big ass plasma tv for a $1000, you basically paid $200 for it and let BestBuy loose $800 on it. that would not be illegal or immoral. now if you did the same thing with local business, make that family owned, now that would be unethical and immoral.

 

[coolraz]

Kaplan's material is not that great it has TONS of mistakes on it and we all know how it hardly reflects the real DAT (which is what btw Kaplan advertises, misleadingly).
Also, Kaplan teachers MUST be underpaid because most of them (they are some good ones, but that's an exception) just read from the same book you have.
Now if your dentist did a poor job on you in a treatment, you could go back and complain and ask him to fix it.
Good luck trying to persuade Kaplan you didnt get your money's worth!

 

[aphistis]

I feel most of you who raising the red flag, are a bunch of idiots. why do you ask? you are comparing a dentist's office to a multi-million dollar company. i honestly would have no remorse or regret buying a used copy from a friend etc, (mind you, I did not do such a thing, I am just saying, I would have no remorse).

Now let me put an example up, if you buy something from BestBuy and you buy some coupons and gift cards that are worth $1000 for less then $300, and say you bought a big ass plasma tv for a $1000, you basically paid $200 for it and let BestBuy loose $800 on it. that would not be illegal or immoral. now if you did the same thing with local business, make that family owned, now that would be unethical and immoral.

1) I don't know where you'd purchase $1000 in Best Buy gift cards for $300, but if you know of a place, send me a PM. I'm all for it.

2) Even granting that this hypothetical scenario is plausible, the glaring difference is that this fantastic gift card sale would obviously be sponsored *by* the company, which would require somehow proving that it's unethical to accept a favor that someone knowingly offers at their own expense.

3) While I appreciate seeing you call me an idiot, I can't speak for the rest of the people in the thread. I'd recommend laying off the name-calling.

 

[starvinstudent]

do what you want... that's my opinion.. i was thinking more of dental decks than kaplan.
i hope all you people who think its cool to steal feel the same way when you're chasing people down who don't pay their bills for dental work you perform on them ...

I intend on making them pay upfront.

Also, I intend on stealing all my office software.

Hows that?

 

[starvinstudent]

I feel most of you who raising the red flag, are a bunch of idiots. why do you ask? you are comparing a dentist's office to a multi-million dollar company. i honestly would have no remorse or regret buying a used copy from a friend etc, (mind you, I did not do such a thing, I am just saying, I would have no remorse).

Now let me put an example up, if you buy something from BestBuy and you buy some coupons and gift cards that are worth $1000 for less then $300, and say you bought a big ass plasma tv for a $1000, you basically paid $200 for it and let BestBuy loose $800 on it. that would not be illegal or immoral. now if you did the same thing with local business, make that family owned, now that would be unethical and immoral.

GOLD TROPHY WINNER.

I would like to award you with a gold trophy for the absolute worst example and off target scenerio that I have ever read on SDN. Obviously it didnt take you long to come up with, but if it did I would recommend another occupational choice something where you may hear the following: "cleanup on isle three."

 

[3rdMolarRoller]

1) I don't know where you'd purchase $1000 in Best Buy gift cards for $300, but if you know of a place, send me a PM. I'm all for it.

There is some truth to this. I have bought in the past, for instance, a $150 gift card to Best Buy on Ebay for $90 (although its very hard to get a deal like this). I do find it hard to believe $300 for a $1000 gift card. That would easily go for $750-$850 on ebay

You can buy these on Ebay for almost anystore.

 

[Typo]

Kaplan's material is not that great it has TONS of mistakes on it and we all know how it hardly reflects the real DAT (which is what btw Kaplan advertises, misleadingly).
Also, Kaplan teachers MUST be underpaid because most of them (they are some good ones, but that's an exception) just read from the same book you have.
Now if your dentist did a poor job on you in a treatment, you could go back and complain and ask him to fix it.
Good luck trying to persuade Kaplan you didnt get your money's worth!

Just a couple of questions -

If Kaplan's material hardly reflects the real DAT, then how did I get a 99.5% AA on the test by studying strictly Kaplan's stuff? I wish I would have studied what you studied, because I sure wish I could have done better.

Is $15-18 an hour underpaid to you? I didn't think I was underpaid at all. Maybe I was being deprived though. For a piddly little college job in a ridiculously stingy Utah town, I thought I was doing pretty decent. I must have been hoodwinked!

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like you're justifying stealing from Kaplan (or other companies) because they MUST be underpaying their employees, and they MUST be falsely advertising their product, and their product sucks anyways because "we all know" how it doesn't reflect the actual DAT. Regardless though, does stealing suddenly become ethical because a company practices shady tactics? Isn't that stooping to their level? I'm not trying to be a highbrow here, but I don't think people have room to criticize a company participating in illegal activity if they themselves are participating in illegal activity.

And am I missing something, or are people actually saying that stealing from a small company is unethical, while it's arguable that stealing from a large company is unethical? I haven't a clue how one is different from the other - someone please clue me in.

 

[starvinstudent]

Just a couple of questions -

If Kaplan's material hardly reflects the real DAT, then how did I get a 99.5% AA on the test by studying strictly Kaplan's stuff? I wish I would have studied what you studied, because I sure wish I could have done better.

Is $15-18 an hour underpaid to you? I didn't think I was underpaid at all. Maybe I was being deprived though. For a piddly little college job in a ridiculously stingy Utah town, I thought I was doing pretty decent. I must have been hoodwinked!

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like you're justifying stealing from Kaplan (or other companies) because they MUST be underpaying their employees, and they MUST be falsely advertising their product, and their product sucks anyways because "we all know" how it doesn't reflect the actual DAT. Regardless though, does stealing suddenly become ethical because a company practices shady tactics? Isn't that stooping to their level? I'm not trying to be a highbrow here, but I don't think people have room to criticize a company participating in illegal activity if they themselves are participating in illegal activity.

And am I missing something, or are people actually saying that stealing from a small company is unethical, while it's arguable that stealing from a large company is unethical? I haven't a clue how one is different from the other - someone please clue me in.

I know how you did it. LUCK. Kaplan's information is crap and not worth $1,000. thats why I just give my materials away.

 

[aphistis]

I intend on making them pay upfront.

Also, I intend on stealing all my office software.

Hows that?

Good luck finding patients who can just write a check to pay $2500-$4000 for a four-crown treatment plan that you can start & finish in less than a month.

 

[rocknightmare]

GOLD TROPHY WINNER.

I would like to award you with a gold trophy for the absolute worst example and off target scenerio that I have ever read on SDN. Obviously it didnt take you long to come up with, but if it did I would recommend another occupational choice something where you may hear the following: "cleanup on isle three."

lol
🙂

 

[starvinstudent]

Good luck finding patients who can just write a check to pay $2500-$4000 for a four-crown treatment plan that you can start & finish in less than a month.

OK

GOOD LUCK FINDING A PATIENT ANYWHERE THAT WANTS A FOUR-CROWN TREATMENT PLAN.

AND IN THE REAL WORLD, YOU BETTER BE LITTLE FASTER THAN 1 MONTH MY FRIEND!

On the more serious side, I have never stepped foot into a dental office that does crowns that does not charge half on the first visit and either require the rest when the crowns are mounted or bill your insurance for the remainder.

Thats the real world, I assumed from your comment that you are still a student.

 

[aphistis]

OK

GOOD LUCK FINDING A PATIENT ANYWHERE THAT WANTS A FOUR-CROWN TREATMENT PLAN.

AND IN THE REAL WORLD, YOU BETTER BE LITTLE FASTER THAN 1 MONTH MY FRIEND!

On the more serious side, I have never stepped foot into a dental office that does crowns that does not charge half on the first visit and either require the rest when the crowns are mounted or bill your insurance for the remainder.

Thats the real world, I assumed from your comment that you are still a student.

You can see from my signature where I attend school. If you want to come by and see patients who've accepted four crowns, just let me know. My record treatment plan at the moment (and I've only been seeing patients for six months) is about 15 units of fixed.

As for the timeframe: Prep two on one side, impress. Two weeks later, deliver crowns back from lab, prep two on other side, impress. Two weeks later, deliver. Total time, four weeks.

I don't know why you're carrying such a chip on your shoulder, but the snide condescension toward other SDN users needs to stop now, OK? You're stepping on a lot of nerves.

 

[jmuire]

I intend on making them pay upfront.

Also, I intend on stealing all my office software.

Hows that?

pay up front.... ha....hows that? sounds like someone taking orders at mcdonalds ... that's how that is..

i'm more against the people who are stealing this stuff and selling it and profitting from someone elses work... thats all i meant from the beginning

 

[howui3]

I think people are getting a little confused.

If you purchase study materials, use them, take the exam, you can sell them as used to someone else. Look at halfprice.com or amazon.com you will see many people selling back their college books. This is fine and most will agree with me.

The OP talks about you making copies or reporoducing the study materials and reselling them to make a profit. Since these companies took the time and energy to develop the material they should be the ones profiting. If you don't like Kaplan and want to make money start your own prep course.

If you buy the Kaplan book, sell it back, that fine. But if you make many copies of it or turn it into pdf and try to sell it many times, then you are violating copywrite laws.

 

[Jeppedo]

I think people are getting a little confused.

If you purchase study materials, use them, take the exam, you can sell them as used to someone else. Look at halfprice.com or amazon.com you will see many people selling back their college books. This is fine and most will agree with me.

The OP talks about you making copies or reporoducing the study materials and reselling them to make a profit. Since these companies took the time and energy to develop the material they should be the ones profiting. If you don't like Kaplan and want to make money start your own prep course.

If you buy the Kaplan book, sell it back, that fine. But if you make many copies of it or turn it into pdf and try to sell it many times, then you are violating copywrite laws.

I think we are all a little confused. This topic has been turned into a piss fest.

For the record, I buy legit. Hey, that's going to be my new sig!

 

[starvinstudent]

I think we are all a little confused. This topic has been turned into a piss fest.

For the record, I buy legit. Hey, that's going to be my new sig!

yea I have been takin it in the butt in this thread as well.

 

[starvinstudent]

You can see from my signature where I attend school. If you want to come by and see patients who've accepted four crowns, just let me know. My record treatment plan at the moment (and I've only been seeing patients for six months) is about 15 units of fixed.

As for the timeframe: Prep two on one side, impress. Two weeks later, deliver crowns back from lab, prep two on other side, impress. Two weeks later, deliver. Total time, four weeks.

I don't know why you're carrying such a chip on your shoulder, but the snide condescension toward other SDN users needs to stop now, OK? You're stepping on a lot of nerves.

I guess maybe thats even fast for a dental student.

The one thing that is going to bite me in the butt is that the school that I am going to go to does not really give a good discount on their services. All the students are complaining and it is very difficult to get patients at all much less ones with money.

Life is tough.

 

[jmuire]

hey everyone...i am the one who originated this thread....it is getting a little out of hand....my comments were made to the people who are taking the time to scan every card in dental decks front and back and every page of every exam and then think it is allright to steal all of this work which someone else did and sell it on dvd...these people are dirtbags...they can't be dental students if they have that kind of time... if i offended anyone i apologize...good luck to all this year..

 

[starvinstudent]

hey everyone...i am the one who originated this thread....it is getting a little out of hand....my comments were made to the people who are taking the time to scan every card in dental decks front and back and every page of every exam and then think it is allright to steal all of this work which someone else did and sell it on dvd...these people are dirtbags...they can't be dental students if they have that kind of time... if i offended anyone i apologize...good luck to all this year..

I have no problem with it.

I just think its a waste of time at the copy machine. you can buy these decks for a couple of hundred dollars on EBAY.

 

[egots]

i dont see a problem with sharing any of hte material, i signed up for kaplans online course over the summer with intentions of taking the DAT, b/c of personal issues i had to take a year off and taking the DAT's didnt work out for me, woohoo did kaplan give a flyin F no, the online material expires after 6 months and true i have the books but there is a lot of information i feel i could use like the practice exams and some material online, i saved what information i could but the practice exams i couldnt and the lessons, point being if kaplan doesnt care about personal situations why should ppl care about how much kaplan loses, either way kaplan is a business all business models account for "stolen" or "cheated" goods so theyll be fine

 

[OMFSCardsFan]

i dont see a problem with sharing any of hte material, i signed up for kaplans online course over the summer with intentions of taking the DAT, b/c of personal issues i had to take a year off and taking the DAT's didnt work out for me, woohoo did kaplan give a flyin F no, the online material expires after 6 months and true i have the books but there is a lot of information i feel i could use like the practice exams and some material online, i saved what information i could but the practice exams i couldnt and the lessons, point being if kaplan doesnt care about personal situations why should ppl care about how much kaplan loses, either way kaplan is a business all business models account for "stolen" or "cheated" goods so theyll be fine

Boo-f***ing-hoo...

I'm sure that you'll be the same one saying, "Oh well, I've already accounted for that $50K to be tied up in collections. It was part of my business model. No big deal." Good thinking.

And, you're right, Kaplan should have been more understanding of your personal issues and refunded your money. Keeping that experience in mind, I'm sure that you'll be the first one to return the payment for an FPD when a patient loses his job. Given his personal issues, he really needs that money back--it's only right that he gets it.

You remind me of all the free-care patients I treat that think I owe THEM something. Just about every one has some sob-story about why everything is someone else's fault--never their own. I expect this attitude from my uneducated patients since they've had little opportunity to gain real perspective. YOUR lack of perspective, after reaching the level which you're currently in, is unbelievable to me.

It's amazing how some people can find an excuse for anything. I can't wait to hear your next one...

 

[SMC2UCLA2_]

There is some truth to this. I have bought in the past, for instance, a $150 gift card to Best Buy on Ebay for $90 (although its very hard to get a deal like this). I do find it hard to believe $300 for a $1000 gift card. That would easily go for $750-$850 on ebay

You can buy these on Ebay for almost anystore.

Someone still payed 150 for this card to best-buy. Its considered unearned revenue to the company and they have it recorded as 150 dollars on their books.

It doesnt matter that you bought the card for 90 because best buy still got 150 for issuing this card.

The example of best buy losing 800 dollars has to be the absolute worst example of anything ever- sorry. They wouldnt really lose 800 bucks unless ur talking about someone hacking their code and issuing gift-cards but I think it requires authentication on their side (so you would need an employee to be ripping off the company).

 

[egots]

Boo-f***ing-hoo...

I'm sure that you'll be the same one saying, "Oh well, I've already accounted for that $50K to be tied up in collections. It was part of my business model. No big deal." Good thinking.

And, you're right, Kaplan should have been more understanding of your personal issues and refunded your money. Keeping that experience in mind, I'm sure that you'll be the first one to return the payment for an FPD when a patient loses his job. Given his personal issues, he really needs that money back--it's only right that he gets it.

You remind me of all the free-care patients I treat that think I owe THEM something. Just about every one has some sob-story about why everything is someone else's fault--never their own. I expect this attitude from my uneducated patients since they've had little opportunity to gain real perspective. YOUR lack of perspective, after reaching the level which you're currently in, is unbelievable to me.

It's amazing how some people can find an excuse for anything. I can't wait to hear your next one...

first off i wasnt complaining it was simply a comment, 2nd if you really wanna get specific mr smarta$$ providing a dental service is one thing cuz the work is done and can be seen, FYI when you talkin about things dealing with the computer and internet they have log files of all activities, so technicially they would know i didnt get the service but GOOD EXAMPLE

my whole point of mentioning it was that it works both ways sympathy isnt shown one way as such shouldnt b shown by others, who cares, if you like to twist my words to feed your own lil eventless life, well buddy do what you gotta do its all love

i have to apologize for being stooping to your level but i feel its the only way i can connect with you (** MY NEXT EXCUSE**), for your information perspective is gained through life experiences not education alone, you are example of another guy who has a degree feeeling on top of the world, get off your own di*k n stop self masturbatin, u know absolutely nothing about me and your comments speak highly of your intellect for drawing those idiotic conclusions(claps so proud of you), maybe in your path of education you never took that logic course cuz i mean where else would anyone gain that perspective right?

BELEIVE THIS if you were really smart educated and professional your tone as a human (sympathetic towards others) would not be so insulting, I AM SHOCKED b/c even little 5 year olds can make insulting comments but an individual such as yourself with SO MUCH perspective id feel would have reached a level of maturity where they can show respect towards others, my comments are just a reflection of your idiotic response, yet i wish you the best

 

[howui3]

first off i wasnt complaining it was simply a comment, 2nd if you really wanna get specific mr smarta$$ providing a dental service is one thing cuz the work is done and can be seen, FYI when you talkin about things dealing with the computer and internet they have log files of all activities, so technicially they would know i didnt get the service but GOOD EXAMPLE

my whole point of mentioning it was that it works both ways sympathy isnt shown one way as such shouldnt b shown by others, who cares, if you like to twist my words to feed your own lil eventless life, well buddy do what you gotta do its all love

i have to apologize for being stooping to your level but i feel its the only way i can connect with you (** MY NEXT EXCUSE**), for your information perspective is gained through life experiences not education alone, you are example of another guy who has a degree feeeling on top of the world, get off your own di*k n stop self masturbatin, u know absolutely nothing about me and your comments speak highly of your intellect for drawing those idiotic conclusions(claps so proud of you), maybe in your path of education you never took that logic course cuz i mean where else would anyone gain that perspective right?

BELEIVE THIS if you were really smart educated and professional your tone as a human (sympathetic towards others) would not be so insulting, I AM SHOCKED b/c even little 5 year olds can make insulting comments but an individual such as yourself with SO MUCH perspective id feel would have reached a level of maturity where they can show respect towards others, my comments are just a reflection of your idiotic response, yet i wish you the best

hmmm.....anger management?

 

[aphistis]

Keep it professional, please, or we'll have to break out the caning reeds.

This is a good thread, and it ought to stay open.

..."self masturbatin"? As opposed to what?

 

[Rajan247]

They should do a better job of protecting their intellectual property, and if it comes down to me or a $Billion dollar corp. I guess you can finish this one for yourself.

 

[OMFSCardsFan]

first off i wasnt complaining it was simply a comment, 2nd if you really wanna get specific mr smarta$$ providing a dental service is one thing cuz the work is done and can be seen, FYI when you talkin about things dealing with the computer and internet they have log files of all activities, so technicially they would know i didnt get the service but GOOD EXAMPLE

So, providing information, such as Kaplan does, isn't a service deserving payment? Interesting that you are paying tuition, which is essentially the same thing. Regardless, you bought ACCESS to that information for a specified amount of time. YOU are responsible for how much you do or do not use the material. You are correct about one thing, my example wasn't exactly the same thing. I could continue to give you a hundred others that would be similar enough to convince anyone else that you're opinion doesn't hold water, but you can't come up with a valid reason supporting your opinion. Why? There isn't one.

BELEIVE THIS if you were really smart educated and professional your tone as a human (sympathetic towards others) would not be so insulting, I AM SHOCKED b/c even little 5 year olds can make insulting comments but an individual such as yourself with SO MUCH perspective id feel would have reached a level of maturity where they can show respect towards others, my comments are just a reflection of your idiotic response, yet i wish you the best

This is just funny. The difference between my post and yours (stooping to my level) is that you've made sure that no one here will any longer consider what you have to say without having the preconceived notion that it's worthless information. You could stop posting before you dig any deeper, but I think, for some reason, that you're not quite intelligent enough to know when you've been owned. But, please, do go on if the mood strikes you. It's entertaining for all of us.

Does anyone else think I've acted in an immature, idiotic, uneducated, or unprofessional manner, or will egots have to stand alone again on this one?

 

[12YearOldKid]

They should do a better job of protecting their intellectual property, and if it comes down to me or a $Billion dollar corp. I guess you can finish this one for yourself.

So your justification is "because I can" ?? Is it OK to steal a car if the owner leaves the keys in? What if he takes the keys but leaves it unlocked? Nobody will argue with the fact that the owner was irresponsible and should have done a better job protecting his property.

I try not to be rude on this board but some of you are just idiots.
***bares his buttocks for Aphistis' caning reeds***

CardsFan -- you are right on target. 👍

 

[786mine]

GOLD TROPHY WINNER.

I would like to award you with a gold trophy for the absolute worst example and off target scenerio that I have ever read on SDN. Obviously it didnt take you long to come up with, but if it did I would recommend another occupational choice something where you may hear the following: "cleanup on isle three."

thanks!!

say what you want, but I am still dumb-stuck all the people complaning how illegal cds of kaplan are running it out of business.

 

[OMFSCardsFan]

thanks!!

say what you want, but I am still dumb-stuck all the people complaning how illegal cds of kaplan are running it out of business.

No one is saying that the bootlegs are going to sink Kaplan. We're just saying that it's just not right to sell the bootleg copies for your own profit. Sharing of the info is fine by me. I also think selling used materials is acceptable. I just disagree with the argument that selling bootlegged copies of copyrighted material is OK since the company makes a lot of money. They deserve to--they developed the materials and work to keep the info current.

It's an inarguable fact that for-profit corporations provide a better product because there is more motivation to succeed. If Kaplan were a not-for-profit company, the materials would likely be useless.