I dont think an LOI will hurt you but if we only can send one I was thinking if its important to send it to a place you actually have a really good chance matching at …sending it to a top tier place where there are no DOs seems a bit of a waste…like at a top tier place im wondering if LOI would really make that much of a difference
I don't think you can only send one?? I would not send like 10 but 2-3 LOI to your top places would be okay? I mean sending it at a place where they already have you ranked high enough to match is also a waste, so I would do 1 reach program and 1 at a "safety" place you really want to be at.
Lol CC foundation is an academic center, no clue how anyone would define it as anything else. Thier fellowship match is incredible. I would rather be somewhere better than CCF anyway for fellowship(location wise)
I hate when programs do this. I hope Vandy doesnt do this but they probably do
I can't see it, there is no reason for them to give someone a drive by interview. Your chances are the same as anyone else they interviewed. They won't waste an interview spot just for the heck of it lol
Oh..yeah I was just under the impression we should only send 1 ...it would be nice to be able to send 2-3 ...
The issue is the LOI game has gotten absolutely ridiculous, as evidenced by the numbers in thread… how are programs supposed to take them seriously when they know applicants are spamming them out as if they were secondary applications? I know my program doesn’t even read them anymore…
I mean you arent wrong but like as a DO you cant just sit idle and Idk what else to do at this point. As DOs we gotta be proactive but unfortutunately the game has ended up not working in our favor at this point bc the LOI has now become something of little to no value bc of virtual interviews it sucks. Virtual interviews just suck
Yea I hope they go back to in person after this year..
LOIs lost their value because everyone is blasting them out, not because of virtual interviews.
I didnt see any either but honestly their roster is full of them its really bizarre. There are a few DOs from my school there too
So youre telling me even before virtual interviews people sent out this many LOIs i find that hard to believe
It's been a last ditch effort trying to grub for interviews for far longer than virtual interviews... just like application fever its just been getting worse and worse.
THIS YEAR IS THE WORST YEAR AND UNLIKE ANY OTHER.
I actually called my former program for my advisee who had no ii's in early Dec. He was a non trad rock star. He went on to get several interviews in Dec and matched where many consider it to be the #1 program in the nation. I have noticed DO students getting interviews later in the year. I can't explain it, but I think they interview DOs later now. That was a couple years ago, and the match games has been changing quickly, so it might be different now. I do think it's too early to panic. Good luck and best wishes.
This post made my week. Thank you @Angus Avagadro I appreciate your insight always
You guys are are talking about two different LOIs, I think. The one that you should only send 1 of is the one you send during rank list time, when you tell a program "I am ranking you #1". Obviously, you shouldn't send more than 1 of these. The other LOI is just a letter of interest requesting an interview and outlining the reasons why you want to go to the program/think you're a good fit. You can send multiple, but as discussed, they may not mean anything because of this. I sent 3, didn't net any interviews from them.
Residents (and fellows applying for advanced fellowship, lol) have all told me they feel the name carries weight and it is brought up in their interviews.
Hmm… i thought we were both talking about letter of intent..
I think there's some equivocation going on. @Deecee2DO is 100% talking about letters of INTEREST. I think that's what everyone has been referring to, but some are just calling them letters of "intent" instead which, as I understand, is an entirely different thing lol.
Yes intent is an entirely different thing. You only send ONE of those. You can send as many interests as you want (sending super high numbers could backfire i guess since people talk but i mean you do you). The general consensus is letters of interests dont really help that much but its all we got even if it only helps marginally its better than sitting idle especially if youre a DO
lol i think theres just too many convo going on cause when I was talking about LOI.. I was responding to @FutureDoctor5000 who mentioned sending LOI after an interview for ranking
Yep agreed.. its interesting bc Letters of interest have worked only when I mentioned Couples Matching otherwise I’ve been ghosted
So If we haven't gotten a ton of rejections, I have like 2 rejections, is it safe to assume we can hear from a few more places in December?
Nope none from former AOA programs like Doctors in Columbus etc.. I have no clue what's going on what those programs tbh
Yet I know of DO's getting UNC and UVA. The process is akin to picking names out of a hat. Completely random. Tennessee said they looked at preference signaling and I didn't signal them so that's why we got the R?
Yeah I def didnt signal them at all. i know its all random man its stupid. I got interviews at better places without DOs and then hear UNC and UVA interview DOs makes no sense
Don't try to make sense of it. You will go crazy. You are gonna be fine!
Yea like I said it's completely random. I have been ghosted by places I signaled for no reason and gotten other simmilar programs I didn't signal smhh
Well, I don't think anything is safe to assume. Just reporting my experience with students I have endorsed over the last couple years. I think the chance of Dec interviews is good., according to my experience.
I did an away in Louisiana (not at Tulane and not in IM) and the Tulane problems were a hot topic. The residents and students I talked to said that everyone they knew from Tulane was talking about all of the problems there. They were insinuating that the racism issue in the one department was only the tip of the iceberg. People from Louisiana I interacted with who were looking to match IM were talking about not even applying to Tulane because of what’s been going on. Louisiana residents looking to match rads weren’t applying to Tulane either... the local fourth year I was with is from New Orleans and his family is there. He wants to go back but did not apply to Tulane.
Thanks for the insight! As long as I dont have issues with getting boarded and the culture isnt toxic i really dont care tbh I just want to do my 3 years and match to a solid fellowship. It doesnt seem like it reallt affected their fellowship match at all its still pretty impressive
Do you know if they have interview spots left?
Like recent invites? I sent an LOI over a month ago. Im assuming it got lost or something
Texas Tech the day after Thanksgiving at 1130pm lol but thats it. Not super pumped about the program by any means but hey its another invite and I needed them. Im finally at 13 so I think im good as far as being safe but Im still waiting on GW Emory Miami and Baylor
Miami and Baylor dates are full as of now but maybe more movement will occur in December
noooo BCM houston? (not BUMC Dallas or BSW). Do u know this for sure? do you have an interview at BCM houston?
Yeah i have an iv at BCM houston. The dates are full on ERAS unless they have other dates that dont show up for me.
Dude holy crap haha BCM houston is like top 20 academic. Its considered THE Baylor. Nice work wow
Just saw there was an open date so seems like there is movement
