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Anyone else overanalyzing everything and being stressed from it? Will you guys be very disappointed if you don't match your top 3 or just happy that you matched? I keep trying to tell myself to just be happy this process is over and I wont have to do it again if I match.
 
Anyone else overanalyzing everything and being stressed from it? Will you guys be very disappointed if you don't match your top 3 or just happy that you matched? I keep trying to tell myself to just be happy this process is over and I wont have to do it again if I match.
Ill be very dissappointed but not like distraught. I really want my top 3 but if I get anywhere within my top 7 id realistically be decently content. After 7 id be very very very very very disappointed
 
Having done both 28's and night float, 28hr call isn't as bad as some people make it out to be. Also, the person I know at MCW absolutely loves it there.
Right I didn't mean for my "Unless you're into that sort of thing!" to come off as a joke or anything. I know some people actually prefer 24+ hour call > night float. Just not for me!
 
Anyone else overanalyzing everything and being stressed from it? Will you guys be very disappointed if you don't match your top 3 or just happy that you matched? I keep trying to tell myself to just be happy this process is over and I wont have to do it again if I match.
I will be bummed if I don't match in my top 4.
 
Ill be very dissappointed but not like distraught. I really want my top 3 but if I get anywhere within my top 7 id realistically be decently content. After 7 id be very very very very very disappointed
I will be bummed if I don't match in my top 4.
I am mentally trying to prepare myself with the possibility of dropping very low on my match list =(
 
Had an interview at a program that has really good fellowship match list and good reputation but wasn't a fan of the faculty I interviewed with....should I let that influence my rank order decision? The faculty were nice but I felt like they werent the best people to interview me bc they arent directly working with residents in the clinical setting so they couldnt answer some of my questions. Overall just didnt get a good vibe from them based on their interview day even though everyone was friendly.
 
Had an interview at a program that has really good fellowship match list and good reputation but wasn't a fan of the faculty I interviewed with....should I let that influence my rank order decision? The faculty were nice but I felt like they werent the best people to interview me bc they arent directly working with residents in the clinical setting so they couldnt answer some of my questions. Overall just didnt get a good vibe from them based on their interview day even though everyone was friendly.
I personally wouldn’t let one or two faculty interactions dictate your whole decision. Sometimes it’s just luck of the draw. I’d maybe suggest reaching out to some current 2nd/3rd year residents who can answer some of your questions.
 
Just got my step 2 score back. 252. Really underperformed considering i had a 2 point drop from my Step 1 and my practice NBMEs were 260+ which was my goal. How much you guys think this will hurt me for ranking? @AlteredScale any input?

I really can't give a great answer because each program is different with how much they weigh this but a 2pt drop shouldn't be a huge deal. I think @NotAProgDirector would have a better answer.
 
I really can't give a great answer because each program is different with how much they weigh this but a 2pt drop shouldn't be a huge deal. I think @NotAProgDirector would have a better answer.
What about for GI fellowship down the road? Do I need 260+ Step 2 for the top programs? Or will 250+ on Step 1 and 2 be good enough to have a shot contingent upon matching a strong Uni internal medicine program and having strong mentors/research
 
Anyone else overanalyzing everything and being stressed from it? Will you guys be very disappointed if you don't match your top 3 or just happy that you matched? I keep trying to tell myself to just be happy this process is over and I wont have to do it again if I match.
Well, let's see...
Just got my step 2 score back. 252. Really underperformed considering i had a 2 point drop from my Step 1 and my practice NBMEs were 260+ which was my goal. How much you guys think this will hurt me for ranking? @AlteredScale any input?
Yes, I'd say other people are overthinking too. There's a whole separate ERAS Panic thread, if you need more panic in your life.

A 252 is absolutely fine.

What about for GI fellowship down the road? Do I need 260+ Step 2 for the top programs? Or will 250+ on Step 1 and 2 be good enough to have a shot contingent upon matching a strong Uni internal medicine program and having strong mentors/research
Not an issue. 252 is fine.
 
What about for GI fellowship down the road? Do I need 260+ Step 2 for the top programs? Or will 250+ on Step 1 and 2 be good enough to have a shot contingent upon matching a strong Uni internal medicine program and having strong mentors/research
As important step scores are the vibe I’ve gotten for gi fellowship is research and clinical performance are the most important
 
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but was wondering how important is the fellowship match list at a program?
 
Sorry if this has already been discussed, but was wondering how important is the fellowship match list at a program?

Wouldn't spend much time worrying about the specific matches and more on percent matched in that year. A consistent 100% match year to year is good.
 
If comparing Winston Salem, NC and Cleveland, OH-anyone have an idea whats better for dating, food scene, more stuff to do? To me culture seems about the same at CCF and WF and now it comes down to location for me
 
If comparing Winston Salem, NC and Cleveland, OH-anyone have an idea whats better for dating, food scene, more stuff to do? To me culture seems about the same at CCF and WF and now it comes down to location for me
Cleveland is a much bigger city, based purely on that I’d give them the lead in those categories
 
If comparing Winston Salem, NC and Cleveland, OH-anyone have an idea whats better for dating, food scene, more stuff to do? To me culture seems about the same at CCF and WF and now it comes down to location for me

Cleveland all the way for what you had said. If into hiking and stuff then NC
 
Has anyone sent out a Letter of Intent? If so, how long was your LOI?
 
Has anyone sent out a Letter of Intent? If so, how long was your LOI?
Sent mine 2 days ago. About 7-8 sentences. Intro paragraph stating I’m ranking them one. Then body paragraph of 3 sentences (all about why I like them). Conclusion paragraph thanking them for IV.
 
Has anyone sent out a Letter of Intent? If so, how long was your LOI?
I haven't hit send on mine but have it drafted out. It's 12 sentences, ~3 paragraphs. First "paragraph" isn't really a paragraph, it's basically just two sentences saying hi and that they're number one. Second paragraph outlining why from a personal standpoint (like, reasons that were apparent pre-interview). Third paragraph adds more reasons why that were confirmed on interview day/interactions with the residents. I've thought about trimming out but I want to make sure I say everything.
 
I lived in cleveland for 2 years, just FYI food is bad. Like overpriced and honestly some of the worst I have ever eaten.


Otherwise cleveland is great though!
Oh wow ok id imagine it has to be better than Winston salem food scene lol. Im getting the general consensus is Cleveland>Winston salem all around
 
Hey guys, just wanted to drop in. Over the halfway mark of intern year! As you guys are making your rank lists, really do factor in the feel you got from people that day. Yes fellowships, research are all important but if you go to a University program or even a well-regarded community program, fellowships will be within your reach. It really depends on how much you want it . One thing that is not on you is the people you're surrounded with, that is a factor you can not control once you're at the program. You want to make sure the program has a culture of support. At my program, interns take night float by themselves after January. We each carry 60-70 patients plus are all first line all RRTs and Codes that happen overnight in the hospital. I could have not gotten through those weeks without my fellow co-interns and the seniors on our night admitting service. It turned out to be one of my highest periods of growth in residency so far. So please do factor in "the people" factor. It is very important. Go to a program full of normal, chill people haha Good luck with the coming weeks, all you will be excellent!
 
Question, my mentor said he'd email my top choice for me if I want. I already sent an LOI, so don't want be annoying to the PD, but should I take him up on his offer?
 
Are PDs technically allowed to respond to LOIs? Sent mine in but havent heard anything back.
 
How many sub-Is did you guys do? Do you think the mid-tier academic places are worth Sub-Ing at?
 
How many sub-Is did you guys do? Do you think the mid-tier academic places are worth Sub-Ing at?
Sub-I's don't mean much in IM... only if your scores aren't good on paper and think you can impress on a month long audition at a mid tier academic program would it be worth it. Or if you want like one particular program then it'd be worth it, or you could be not liked by the residents for any reason and shoot yourself in the foot. All depends on how good you are on paper: step scores/research/extra-curriculars.

Edit: You SHOULD do a sub-I in IM (either through your school or elsewhere) to get that experience, and to potentially get a letter/chair letter. But it is not necessarily have to be at a particular program/mid tier institution. I was asked about my IM sub-I on interviews so you should do one, since it's expected of MD students, it just doesn't necessarily have to be where you want to match, unlike surgery and surgical subs where sub-I's and auditions can matter a lot(especially at former aoa places).
 
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How many sub-Is did you guys do? Do you think the mid-tier academic places are worth Sub-Ing at?
Only if you think youd rock it and it would help u. It can hurt you if you dont perform well. I wouldnt do it unless you are a DO that wants academic IM and you otherwise have an avg application otherwise it can only hurt you and you dont need it. IM subIs are not super useful and arent really a thing with IM. It can help you in that it can get you an academic LOR which helps with academic IM interviews for DOs
 
How many sub-Is did you guys do? Do you think the mid-tier academic places are worth Sub-Ing at?
Depends, if you actually have a clinical IM department with faculty and a residency program where you can obtain letters then its not necessary. If you don't (and this is the case with most DO schools) then I recommend doing a few sub-I's.
 
How many sub-Is did you guys do? Do you think the mid-tier academic places are worth Sub-Ing at?
I did one at a low-mid tier academic program and got an interview because of it. I don't think I would of gotten an interview without it bc its not in my region and have no ties to the area.
 
I did one at a low-mid tier academic program and got an interview because of it. I don't think I would of gotten an interview without it bc its not in my region and have no ties to the area.
Yea in a case like this it would be very helpful. If you want to go to a specific region then do it. COVID has made everything super regional
 
How many sub-Is did you guys do? Do you think the mid-tier academic places are worth Sub-Ing at?
1 true sub-I in IM. Sub-Is are not recommended if you are a high-stat applicant/don't have red flags. Did mine at a program that I would like to go to (it's #4 on my list) but isn't my top choice. Stayed away from all of my top choices...it's just way too easy to mess something up, someone could dislike you for the stupidest of reasons. Not worth it unless you really need the help with your app. Do sub-I's at your lower ranked choices and/or other specialties just to get the feel of how residency works.
 
actually I think the vast majority of DO schools have affiliations with IM residency programs and most have IM department chairs... Its only the surgical subs where many DO schools lack real departments in(some do have them in them as well)... I got my chair letter from the IM Dept chair at my school who is also a PD.. I do think you need a PD/Chair or someone from a residency program to write you a letter tho, just having preceptor/community doc letters can hurt you if thats your only letter. You need someone from a residency program structure to say I recommend this person for IM residency lol.
Maybe I lucked out since my school (KCU) had literally a non existent IM department, their affiliated IM residency program was out of the STATE so not obtainable by most medical students with KCU.
 
Hi does anyone have any suggestions on how I should rank these programs:

Henry Ford
Beaumont Royal Oak
University of Missouri Columbia
University of Tennesee Memphis

Will apply hem onc

thanks!
 
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