I'm starting to hate D school.

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phremius

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Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.
 
phremius said:
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.


aw man, don't let yourself turn into something like that. stay cool
 
You are becoming comfortably numb.
 
"Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider."

Sooo true!
 
phremius said:
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.

Can you elaborate...what kind of person is it turning you into? I think I understand what you mean, but I've decided to go with the flow a long time ago.
 
It's time for a career change for me.
See you guys later. Actually, i hope not to see you guys because of the what you've turned into.

Joking!

My sympathies with you all.
 
phremius said:
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.

There is a way to get your mind right. When you graduate look for opportunities like Iraq or Somalia where you can volunteer your services to help the refugees and displaced.
 
ItsGavinC said:
100% agreeance.
hehe. I'm assuming the poor grammar was intentional.

If so, nice subtle humor. If not, I expect more from an English Major! 🙂

**edit**Looks like the english major paid off. 16th century word that no longer appears in our dictionaries.

http://www.unwords.com/unword/agreeance.html

Sorry for the thread hijack.
 
phremius said:
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.

Somedays I totally agree with you...and haven't even started yet. Other days, I like being that way.
 
phremius said:
Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity.


This is so sad but true. I agree, sometimes I wish my family was wealthy enough for me to take classes for fun and enjoyment and not worry about having to support myself.
 
phremius said:
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.

^^ somebody tell me what that means
 
dWiz said:
^^ somebody tell me what that means


Boring middle class life that makes people go crazy in movies like American Beauty.
 
dWiz said:
^^ somebody tell me what that means

I think blasé bourgeois mediocrity is roughly translated as nonchalant affluent middle class people who are often conventionally, conservatively or materialistically poor!!!!!!

And there are plenty of them!!!!

rahmed
 
rahmed said:
I think blasé bourgeois mediocrity is roughly translated as nonchalant affluent middle class people who are often conventionally, conservatively or materialistically poor!!!!!!

And there are plenty of them!!!!

rahmed

AHHH! This is worse than tutoring freshman english. You guys are just stringing big adjectives together without actually saying anything. Does anybody know what these guys are talking about. Conventionally, conservatively or materialistically poor?

I think it means the colloquial, cathartic average joe who is doomed to a life of symbiotic, synthetic, and synaptic ineptitude of modern life. 🙄
 
CorneliusFudge said:
AHHH! This is worse than tutoring freshman english. You guys are just stringing big adjectives together without actually saying anything. Does anybody know what these guys are talking about. Conventionally, conservatively or materialistically poor?

I think it means the colloquial, cathartic average joe who is doomed to a life of symbiotic, synthetic, and synaptic ineptitude of modern life. 🙄

Woow!
 
haha, nice.

CorneliusFudge said:
AHHH! This is worse than tutoring freshman english. You guys are just stringing big adjectives together without actually saying anything. Does anybody know what these guys are talking about. Conventionally, conservatively or materialistically poor?

I think it means the colloquial, cathartic average joe who is doomed to a life of symbiotic, synthetic, and synaptic ineptitude of modern life. 🙄
 
DentalSkills said:
Boring middle class life that makes people go crazy in movies like American Beauty.

hopefully that's limited to the time spent in dental school....you can expect at least an upper midddle class life once you're done and working, or is that top 5% income thing BS
 
CorneliusFudge said:
AHHH! This is worse than tutoring freshman english. You guys are just stringing big adjectives together without actually saying anything. Does anybody know what these guys are talking about. Conventionally, conservatively or materialistically poor?

I think it means the colloquial, cathartic average joe who is doomed to a life of symbiotic, synthetic, and synaptic ineptitude of modern life. 🙄

I think it means upper middle class Americans who think they are living in paradise...and who probably are according to their own low standards. And they wonder why some of us are miserable in this type of existence.
 
jabeck74 said:
I think it means upper middle class Americans who think they are living in paradise...and who probably are according to their own low standards. And they wonder why some of us are miserable in this type of existence.
Nah, it's that ideal 50's life that people aren't happy with anymore. It's 2.5 kids, a 2 car garage, a half acre and a golden retriever. It's living "comfortably." It's losing that "I'll never stop loving the Sex Pistols" attitude you had in high school and listening to "Adult Contemporary" instead. It's "peewee soccer practice" instead of "pointless, drunken, 3-day roadtrip to nowhere". It's reading Palahniuk or Kerouac or Hunter Thompson and feeling the hole in your heart grow deeper. It's trading your leather jacket for a leather interior. It's growing up...
 
I've wrestled with this idea a little myself. Its a strange feeling I can't quite put my finger on. Sure you will enjoy the money and free time. Maybe you will even train for the Boston marathon But there is something inherently missing in the final success. I think it is the struggle. Whats the old saying.?...It's the journey not the destination. Once you've reached that bourgeois life where do go from there.

Have you ever eaten a large bowl of Chocolate icecream only to find that towards the end you can't taste any flavor at all?

Is that what you're saying?
 
just enjoy your life and be thankful for everything you have. There is no reason to complain at all. 😉
 
phremius said:
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.

I think in dental school you go through periods of quiescence and exacerbation (like perio disease)...lol, only a dentist would find that funny. Seriously though, I have had a lot of difficult times throughout dental school. The best thing I realized is to stop comparing myself to my classmates. People deal with things differently throughout dental school, some get depressed, some act overly confident,etc. Just remember, one day you will make your life as a dentist the way that you choose, you have no choice in dental school. It won't be that way forever! Hang in there!
 
Having already had a few checkered career paths, I can say that the grass is always greener, and that your career does not have to be your life. At least being a dentist usually permits the time and income to pursue other interests.

To the OP, your life is what you make of it... go out and get yours
 
This post deserves repeating. Only you can let a career (or any other life choice) define you.

docious said:
Having already had a few checkered career paths, I can say that the grass is always greener, and that your career does not have to be your life. At least being a dentist usually permits the time and income to pursue other interests.

To the OP, your life is what you make of it... go out and get yours
 
packbacker said:
This post deserves repeating. Only you can let a career (or any other life choice) define you.

I agree...
 
phremius said:
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.

this is the suicidal shyt they talk about when associating with dentists! dude grow up...and move on
 
phremius said:
Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Thats perfectly said right there.
 
I hear you on this. I can't even describe what I turned into in dental school and how miserable it made me. I nearly had a fycking nervous breakdown at one point. Lemme tell you tho, I'm a resident now and I chose my program wisely. The people are great and I have my life and myself back. That just wasn't possible at dental school. I've never encountered so many a-holes in my life and hope to never do so again.

Good luck getting through it my friend. You'll do it and you'll find yourself again!

phremius said:
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.
 
It happens in every field when stuff gets stressful, its only normal. My best friend LOVEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Medicine in undergrad, I mean you could not freakin talk to the guy without him mentioning something medical or about wanting to be a doctor (annoying at times). I think the last time I heard him say he loves med school was the day he got his white coat at his white coat ceremony. Now all he does is bitch, and bitch, finally graduated top of his class and is 2nd year in Ortho., but still calls and tells me to not go back to med school but to go to law school because he hates med school and "it took away his youth-hood, freedom, caused him a divorce (I just think he took his stress out on the wife),etc... But i bet he wont be bitching in a few years when he starts with 500K and gets to that light at the end of the tunnel.
 
MD2b20004 said:
It happens in every field when stuff gets stressful, its only normal. My best friend LOVEEDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Medicine in undergrad, I mean you could not freakin talk to the guy without him mentioning something medical or about wanting to be a doctor (annoying at times). I think the last time I heard him say he loves med school was the day he got his white coat at his white coat ceremony. Now all he does is bitch, and bitch, finally graduated top of his class and is 2nd year in Ortho., but still calls and tells me to not go back to med school but to go to law school because he hates med school and "it took away his youth-hood, freedom, caused him a divorce (I just think he took his stress out on the wife),etc... But i bet he wont be bitching in a few years when he starts with 500K and gets to that light at the end of the tunnel.
That's right. Money will make all his problems go away. 🙄
 
aphistis said:
That's right. Money will make all his problems go away. 🙄

Agreed. Running a business and doing dentistry. No stress at all.
 
Lesley said:
Agreed. Running a business and doing dentistry. No stress at all.

Umm, I think he was being sarcastic.
 
Lesley said:
Agreed. Running a business and doing dentistry. No stress at all.

I can say from experience that running any small business involves stress from various angles - Dentistry is no exception. It is likely that you'll wear many hats in the beginning. Once established, it makes sense to pay for good staff to relieve much of the burden that doesn't actually generate revenue. It took me awhile to relinquish many responsibilities that didn't actually generate cash. Once I did, I was happier and ultimately made more money: win-win.
 
JamieMac said:
I can say from experience that running any small business involves stress from various angles - Dentistry is no exception. It is likely that you'll wear many hats in the beginning. Once established, it makes sense to pay for good staff to relieve much of the burden that doesn't actually generate revenue. It took me awhile to relinquish many responsibilities that didn't actually generate cash. Once I did, I was happier and ultimately made more money: win-win.

Absolutely. It takes a while to figure it all out. As a dentist/owner you will need to delegate. We do this. Everyone has their own job to do, and I feel confident that everyone is doing their job well. At the same time our staff knows our expectations, from collecting money, billing to scheduling patients. I believe the doctor must decide this, not his/her staff. I've found that although things were getting done when we first purchased our practice more than 20 years ago, I was not satisfied that it was being done nearly as well or consistantly as they could have been. Writing our own office manual and revising it, as needed, was a job, but worthwhile. I keep things simple, but consistant. Our staff appreciates knowing exactly what we want done and how to do it. This makes their jobs easier. Taking the time to write it clarifed how I wanted our business to function. It allows me to train new employees relatively easily, and our patients know they will be treated equally. I do not allow my front desk to show favoritism. Dentists often hire young women, assistants, front desk and hygienists. When they get married, have children, their hours often change to meet their families needs. Ultimately, this often requires changes in your staffing or office hours. Nothing is written in stone. We are all learning, changing and adapting every day. It sounds like you have a good handle on your life and office. Best wishes, Lesley
 
Lesley said:
...It sounds like you have a good handle on your life and office. Best wishes, Lesley

Lesley,
I should probably clarify that my office is not actually a dental office. I am currently phasing myself out of the day to day operations of one business that I co-own, and closing another that I independently own. My business ventures have afforded me the opportunity to comfortably pursue a career in medicine/dentistry. Upon finishing up my pre-req classes this year, I plan to apply the following year. At this point I am slightly leaning towards dentistry, but am still undecided. I've got a year to figure it out. Best of luck, JamieMac
 
JamieMac said:
Lesley,
I should probably clarify that my office is not actually a dental office. I am currently phasing myself out of the day to day operations of one business that I co-own, and closing another that I independently own. My business ventures have afforded me the opportunity to comfortably pursue a career in medicine/dentistry. Upon finishing up my pre-req classes this year, I plan to apply the following year. At this point I am slightly leaning towards dentistry, but am still undecided. I've got a year to figure it out. Best of luck, JamieMac

Having a business background will definitely come in handy should you become a dentist. If you are interested in owning your own business and calling all the shots, there is still probably more opportunity for an individual to own their own business in dentistry than medicine. Many medical practices are group practices, comparatively many dentists are solo practicioners. Most medical offices accept HMO's and PPO's. They have no choice but to have a lot of doctors working a lot of hours to support one office. Hence, large groups. In dentistry, many dentists are choosing not participate with insurance companies. Many dentists are getting full fee for their work and do not need to form large groups as with medicine. Patients are beginning to accept that dentistry is going to cost them money, even if they have some insurance coverage. They are less accepting of this with medicine. With medicine, many patients wouldn't think of going to a doctor out of network. This is not so with dentistry. This is largely due to the low benefits that are allowed per year/per patient for dental work. This is not so with medicine. So, while the $1,000/1,500 maximum per year the many insurance companies allow per patient per year for dental work is not so good for the patients, it's good for dentistry. Good luck with your prereqs and professional choice. Lesley
 
Nah, it's that ideal 50's life that people aren't happy with anymore. It's 2.5 kids, a 2 car garage, a half acre and a golden retriever. It's living "comfortably." It's losing that "I'll never stop loving the Sex Pistols" attitude you had in high school and listening to "Adult Contemporary" instead. It's "peewee soccer practice" instead of "pointless, drunken, 3-day roadtrip to nowhere". It's reading Palahniuk or Kerouac or Hunter Thompson and feeling the hole in your heart grow deeper. It's trading your leather jacket for a leather interior. It's growing up...

very well said, this made me sad because I know this to be truth. 🙁
 
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.

Don't worry about what people do or say, relax, you are in no position to judge society or other people. This will make you crazy.

Do whatever makes you happy, You do not need other people's approval to be happy. Do what makes YOU happy. Forget about society and it's rules... Being comfortable and happy with what makes you happy is all you need. It's not money, its not a wife, its not children, its not a ferrari....unless these are what truely make you happy. Don't do something to gain approval of other people. Don't get married cause it's the thing to do, and you must marry at some point, says who? don't buy a nice car to show it off. But a car that your comfortable it, if it happens to be expensive so be it, and be proud of it.

It could be as simple as going hiking every week, or as expensive as skydiving every week. Money should only help you accomplish SOME not all things that might make you happy. Some don't even need money to be happy, because things that make them happy do not require much money.

look deep in your heart...If you put society aside...Most people's happiness don't come from going to the mall and buying expensive clothes...buying a crazy car, buying a mansion. These are what society projects onto us...Look deep inside...

Here are mine
It's spending time with a good friend.
Going to the beach at night and listening to the ocean.
Speed!! Perhaps this will require an above average car...but def not a ferrari... or maybe I can just go skydiving
Working with my hands
Getting to know people
Helping those who really need and deserve it!
Running
Learning
Understanding
People watching
cool gadgets
and so much more

just random list!!!
 
Very Inspiring post!It has a positive effect on me 4 days before i take part 2.😳


Don't worry about what people do or say, relax, you are in no position to judge society or other people. This will make you crazy.

Do whatever makes you happy, You do not need other people's approval to be happy. Do what makes YOU happy. Forget about society and it's rules... Being comfortable and happy with what makes you happy is all you need. It's not money, its not a wife, its not children, its not a ferrari....unless these are what truely make you happy. Don't do something to gain approval of other people. Don't get married cause it's the thing to do, and you must marry at some point, says who? don't buy a nice car to show it off. But a car that your comfortable it, if it happens to be expensive so be it, and be proud of it.

It could be as simple as going hiking every week, or as expensive as skydiving every week. Money should only help you accomplish SOME not all things that might make you happy. Some don't even need money to be happy, because things that make them happy do not require much money.

look deep in your heart...If you put society aside...Most people's happiness don't come from going to the mall and buying expensive clothes...buying a crazy car, buying a mansion. These are what society projects onto us...Look deep inside...

Here are mine
It's spending time with a good friend.
Going to the beach at night and listening to the ocean.
Speed!! Perhaps this will require an above average car...but def not a ferrari... or maybe I can just go skydiving
Working with my hands
Getting to know people
Helping those who really need and deserve it!
Running
Learning
Understanding
People watching
cool gadgets
and so much more

just random list!!!
 
It's funny you brought that post up. I just shaved myself a mohawk yesterday, because it's the last time in my life I'll be able to 🙁

Right? I just went back to blond again, b/c I have no more interviews anymore, and can have hair as white or orange as I want until it's time to go back to uptight Goosestuff mode. I'm wondering if next I'll find myself trying to get my nose ring back in 😀...
 
It's funny you brought that post up. I just shaved myself a mohawk yesterday, because it's the last time in my life I'll be able to 🙁
nice! I shaved my whole head last year. It's good for swimming.
 
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.

So get a hobby, have a three-some or tandem sky-dive with only some ultra-coiled rope and vinyl keeping you from falling faster than your attention span in dental anatomy. My point is the process is not your life! It's ok to hate the school but you gotta love the dentistry...deride the process but embrace the product. You'll become somewhat different in the end...maybe older and wiser...maybe scarred and jaded...but almost always a change for the better.
 
I hear you on all of these. D school "changed" me. But I know deep down inside I'm still the real me.

There are times when I feel like and act like an alpha-male a$$hole. Doesn't matter that I'm female. I feel it. And, I don't really like or fit in with the bourgeoisie....so I'm ultimately going to try to avoid them.

And, I was stupider when I was in dental school....but my brain is smartening up again. You feel stupid in D school because you are so busy trying to shove stuff into your head to pass tests that you don't stop and really think about the material and learn it. As a resident I can see how much more straightforward so many ideas really are.

Once you are out of D school, you can continue to learn, but at your own pace....which feels great. You also have time then to focus on other interests that got pushed aside while you are in school.

Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.
 
Because it is making me more and more into someone that I once would deride, make fun of, and more or less avoid. And into a bigger alpha-male dingus.

Because it is making me more knowledgeable, but stupider.

Because it is driving me into a lifestyle, nay a life, of blaise bourgeois mediocrity. And my colleagues seem to love it, and I seem to mind it less and less each day.



I feel the same way man.

Only way to help is Ambien and Valium.
 
I just hate what kindergarden did to me.... I had to actually stop peeing my pants when I didn't want to ACTUALLY walk to the toilet....I had to read books that my teacher and class wanted to read instead of reading "super grover goes to the supermarket" over and over.....I had to do things for myself because my mommy wasn't there to buffer me from the consequences of life..... I had to stop picking my nose and eating it because those other bastard kindergardeners kept on judging me.... I had to actually live a schedule like get up and go to school and be accounted for.....I had to bath more than one time a week (and I even had to get my hair combed once a day!)

Man, life before kindergarden was the best! Eat what you want, do what you want, play in the street, not wear shoes for weeks at a time, run with scissors and knives....other people to pick up/clean up, other people to earn the food, other people to do the work, other people to be the productive and contributing components of society while I could do what ever the !@#$ I wanted and I could just flick a booger on society..... those were the days!!!!!

Society was so much better when there was no society! We could just live in caves, chewing on raw meat, wrap a fur around us for clothes, play with fire.... now we have to INTERACT, think about OTHER PEOPLE besides ourselves, think about what we do and how it impacts SOCIETY, and the worst.... we actually have to be PRODUCTIVE and RELIABLE and RESPONSIBLE.... life sucks now, I think I am going to leave my wife and kids, move home, put on a big diaper, and see if my mom will start letting me breast feed again.... I was such a more COOL, HIP, FUN, CARE-FREE person when I was doing that........marching to the beat of my own drum.... then society intervened and ruined me! Now I am a doctor (oh no!), a tax payer (oh no!), a parent (not that!), a spouse (disgusting!), a volunteer in my community (the nerve!!!), my life is so boring I just might end it tonight (after the basketball games of course 🙂 )
 
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