Importance of Research in Medical School

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Hi i'm an MSY1 and would like to know how important research is when it comes to applying for residencies (both competitve and mediocre).
Like should one just concentrate on getting good grades, community work, clinical work etc or is research an important component of one's CV?
PS: I don't take much interest in research.
 
Hi i'm an MSY1 and would like to know how important research is when it comes to applying for residencies (both competitve and mediocre).
Like should one just concentrate on getting good grades, community work, clinical work etc or is research an important component of one's CV?
PS: I don't take much interest in research.

If you don't like research don't do it. Yes research plays a part in residency but grades, USMLE, 3rd year clerkships are wayyy more important. Unless you are interested in Derm, Plastics, Ortho, ENT and rads then don't do research if you aren't interested in it.
 
Yeah i would like to do my residency in Internal Medicine because that then opens a lot of doors to many different specialties and all.
What about General Surgery? Would that require research experience?
 
Yeah i would like to do my residency in Internal Medicine because that then opens a lot of doors to many different specialties and all.
What about General Surgery? Would that require research experience?

Not for gen surg but if you want to specialize after that research is beneficial but definitely not required. If you don't like doing research I would not agonize over it unless you want to do one of the specialties listed above. Even then if you hate it I would not recommend doing it. Doing something you don't like never leads to good results. Good luck on starting med school
 
Many of the internal medicine subspecialty fellowships are very competitive, and research will be important for your application. Getting an understanding about clinical or bench research during medical school would allow you to be more productive later, when your time constraints are more severe.
 
If you don't like research don't do it. Yes research plays a part in residency but grades, USMLE, 3rd year clerkships are wayyy more important. Unless you are interested in Derm, Plastics, Ortho, ENT and rads then don't do research if you aren't interested in it.

Stole this link from another thread. It's definitely worth taking a look.

http://journals.lww.com/academicmed..._Criteria_for_Residency__Results_of_a.24.aspx

Even specialties like Ortho and Rads are not that heavily influenced by research.
 
Thank you for the swift replies, greatly appreciate it!
Yeah research is definitely not my forte', glad to know it's not important for majority of specialties!
 
Stole this link from another thread. It's definitely worth taking a look.

http://journals.lww.com/academicmed..._Criteria_for_Residency__Results_of_a.24.aspx

Even specialties like Ortho and Rads are not that heavily influenced by research.
In addition to Cubssox's link, http://www.nrmp.org/data/programresultsbyspecialty.pdf is always nice to take a look at. It will tell you much the same.

One thing to keep in mind though: While its not too important for most specialties, if you want to do plastics or (especially) radiation oncology, research helps a lot to have. Also, if you think you might be doing a fellowship, a lot of them do like research experience.

But its still far less important than most things.
 
Hi i'm an MSY1 and would like to know how important research is when it comes to applying for residencies (both competitve and mediocre).
Like should one just concentrate on getting good grades, community work, clinical work etc or is research an important component of one's CV?
PS: I don't take much interest in research.

Page 12 of this document should have the answer to your question.

http://www.nrmp.org/data/chartingoutcomes2009v3.pdf
 
Our residency directors in Rads, Ortho, Optho, and ENT told us to focus on grades, Step 1, and letters of recommendation (3rd year). They said do research if you like it, and it doesn't affect your step 1 prep.

Publish a few case reports during your clerkships and let your Step+GPA do the talking.
 
No its not as easy as it sounds. It is easier than research pubs because you dont have to put in months of lab/clinical work but the difficulty of getting it into a journal is about the same for each journal.

You still have o go through a review process. When i had mine published, it took 2 months to write it up (from identifying the case to reading background lit and extensive reading to make sure it had not been described elsewhere).

From the day i submitted it to the day i got word that it had been accepted was about 3 months, with the report being returned 2x for revision when the reviewers felt that i needed better explanations for why the case was so unique and why it was relevant.
 
Case reports still serve a valuable role in today's literature, but not nearly as significant as they once were. Some people love writing up case reports, and consider it a hobby. One can argue as to whether publishing a case report constitutes research at all. Regardless, they certainly are not "easy" to get published.

Many people make the mistake of finding a "cool case" and then trying to squeeze a report out of it. If it isn't truly unique, then the reviewers won't care about it, and it won't get published, so don't waste your time on a weak case. Remember, you have to go through real peer-review for a case-report, which can be arduous at times. A well-crafted case report is not an easy thing to construct, balancing the case presentation with a historic perspective and prior literature review, so make sure you have a good mentor as a last author to help you along the way. A well-written but unsurprising case is more likely to get published than a very unusual but poorly presented one.

Personally, I did a few in medical school, but since getting into funded research, I don't bother anymore. They don't count toward your career advancement in the clinician-scientist track.
 
I guess it depends on the school. Our ortho and ENT directors emphasize yes people will say research is 'not necessary' but yes it will differentiate you. and yes it will make that difference since everyone will have good step 1 scores and grades
 
I guess it depends on the school. Our ortho and ENT directors emphasize yes people will say research is 'not necessary' but yes it will differentiate you. and yes it will make that difference since everyone will have good step 1 scores and grades

I think its one of those things where they will tell you is important, but the data collected from residency directors of what they considered when it came down to it shows that its importance is not as great as they tell us.

Personally, i feel that if i can do a rotation at that institution to show them how competent i am, it would separate me from other comaparable applicants more than research would, especially since so many med students do research they have no interest in these days.
 
I hope your right mr hawkings. I decided not to do research this summer but I don't want to shut the door on any specialty. i was considering doing research later.
 
Many of the internal medicine subspecialty fellowships are very competitive, and research will be important for your application. Getting an understanding about clinical or bench research during medical school would allow you to be more productive later, when your time constraints are more severe.

Just to clarify, do you mean that by developing good research habits as a med student, you will be a more efficient researcher during residency, or do you mean that doing research as a med student will actually be taken into account when it is time to apply for fellowships?
 
Eh, both. Good research during medical school can carry over, but obviously the closer your research is to your fellowship, the fresher and more cutting-edge it will seem.
 
Hey,
How can international students apply for research in the U.S?
I need to know ASAP, Cuz I'm not in the U.S and I'm interested in joining research on it, I'm not looking for payment though... If anyone knows please advise... thx
 
Hey,
How can international students apply for research in the U.S?
I need to know ASAP, Cuz I'm not in the U.S and I'm interested in joining research on it, I'm not looking for payment though... If anyone knows please advise... thx

Yes you can. Especially if you are willing to work for free. Do you go to college here or something because it's pretty easy to just find a prof/doc and do research with them
 
Yes you can. Especially if you are willing to work for free. Do you go to college here or something because it's pretty easy to just find a prof/doc and do research with them

No actually, I've never been in college or studied in the U.S. Instead I'm studying in my homeland. I had a research program in Canada last year. It was nice, that's why I wanna repeat that experience but in the U.S.... any thoughts?
 
If you're not looking for stipends or housing, its actually relatively easy. Look up researchers in fields/universities you want to work in, and simply spam peoples in boxes. Many professors will either take the free labor or refer you to a colleague in need of some assistance.
 
Yeah definitely, if you are willing to work for free just include that in the email. You will get something.
 
I'm in first year of medical school in Pakistan. I'm very interested in research but I don't know how to hunt for opportunities yet. I've a month off yet. So at present, ive two offers: research opportunity with acknowledgement and without authorship, and second is observership at Aga Khan University. what should i opt for?
P.S.: for future specialties, im interested in dermatology, anesthesiology, plastic surgery and aviation medicine.
ur help will be highly appreciated.
 
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