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dyspareunia said:
Don't apply to any DO schools. Save your money for more MD secondaries.

Make sure the HBCUs, Wright State, and Rosalind Franklin are on your list regardless of your race and state of residence.
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HBCU would be a waste of time applying unless you have an extremely strong record regarding the under served and minorities.

I would still apply DO. There are no guarantees in today's world.
 
dyspareunia said:
Don't apply to any DO schools. Save your money for more MD secondaries.

Make sure the HBCUs, Wright State, and Rosalind Franklin are on your list regardless of your race and state of residence.
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Why would you recommend a non AA to apply to HBCUs...?
 
dyspareunia said:
So here's the thing, his stats aren't going to guarantee admission to the best DO schools, which are likely the 5-10 he would apply to. So essentially he's throwing money at AACOMAS for nothing. He's better off applying to 12-15 more MD schools, which I think based on application fees would cost about as much as 7-8 DO schools. Better odds for the cost, which is important since he says he's limited on funds.

Averages for MD are still around 3.7/3.7/31. Assuming the rest of his application is at least average, he'll get into an MD school if he applies to 30+ schools including all the ones known to accept people with lower stats. Or he could spend money applying to low-average DO schools, but that's a waste imo.
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Why would it be a waste? I am actually planning on low/mid range DO schools for my 5-10 DO schools.

I would think that a cGPA of almost 3.6 and a sGPA of nearly 3.3 plus a 33 MCAT would be extremely competitive at DO schools. That's what Goro told me.

And I think my ECs are at least above average.
 
dyspareunia said:
Don't apply to any DO schools. Save your money for more MD secondaries.

Make sure the HBCUs, Wright State, and Rosalind Franklin are on your list regardless of your race and state of residence.
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this is horrible advice. While it is possible he will get into an MD, a 3.2/3.3 science GPA will make it quite an uphill battle. You are underestimating how UN-forgiving most MD schools are with low GPA's. HBCU's are for URM's, Wright State mainly takes from Ohio, and RFU is a giant crapshoot.

There were plenty of people this year, 3.5-3.7/30-32 that applied and got shut out of MD schools. I'm talking no interviews.

However, solid EC's will definitely help him.
 
user3 said:
this is horrible advice. While it is possible he will get into an MD, a 3.2/3.3 science GPA will make it quite an uphill battle. You are underestimating how UN-forgiving most MD schools are with low GPA's. HBCU's are for URM's, Wright State mainly takes from Ohio, and RFU is a giant crapshoot.

There were plenty of people this year, 3.5-3.7/30-32 that applied and got shut out of MD schools. I'm talking no interviews.

However, solid EC's will definitely help him.
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I REALLY want to get in on my first try, so DOs will be a FOCUS. 10 schools that are "mid-tier" should do it, no?
 
Go ahead and apply to 5-10 DO schools instead of 5-10+ extra MD schools. Just don't make a thread in July asking if you should take your DO acceptance (if you get one) or reapply MD.
 
user3 said:
what schools are your top choices?
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I don't really care/have any. Any DO school is good enough except Rocky Vista, since that's a for-profit school.

I am definitely applying to Goro's school.
 
user3 said:
this is horrible advice. While it is possible he will get into an MD, a 3.2/3.3 science GPA will make it quite an uphill battle. You are underestimating how UN-forgiving most MD schools are with low GPA's. HBCU's are for URM's, Wright State mainly takes from Ohio, and RFU is a giant crapshoot.

There were plenty of people this year, 3.5-3.7/30-32 that applied and got shut out of MD schools. I'm talking no interviews.

However, solid EC's will definitely help him.
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Great advice. Many people still don't get how vicious it is out there. Nothing is for sure anymore.
 
He said in another thread "one of my colleagues over at Touro-CA" which would imply not Touro-CA, but maybe he's a sneak and just did that to mislead people?
 
Mention a long held passion for Mortal Kombat in all of your Personal Statements. The school that accepts you will be Goro's.
 
user3 said:
this is horrible advice. While it is possible he will get into an MD, a 3.2/3.3 science GPA will make it quite an uphill battle. You are underestimating how UN-forgiving most MD schools are with low GPA's. HBCU's are for URM's, Wright State mainly takes from Ohio, and RFU is a giant crapshoot.

There were plenty of people this year, 3.5-3.7/30-32 that applied and got shut out of MD schools. I'm talking no interviews.

However, solid EC's will definitely help him.
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AlbinoHawk DO said:
Great advice. Many people still don't get how vicious it is out there. Nothing is for sure anymore.
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I'm glad you guys think you're super smart and all, but I sat on the adcom at my school as an MS1 and I'm quite sure I have a better handle on all of this than you.
 
dyspareunia said:
I'm glad you guys think you're super smart and all, but I sat on the adcom at my school as an MS1 and I'm quite sure I have a better handle on all of this than you.
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While I'm sure your experience is appreciated, since you didn't sit on the adcom for every school you listed, I think I'm still going to trust the advice that says non-URM probs shouldn't apply to HBCUs...
 
dyspareunia said:
I'm glad you guys think you're super smart and all, but I sat on the adcom at my school as an MS1 and I'm quite sure I have a better handle on all of this than you.
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we have been spending months on end applying to many places, and plenty of people have been sharing have been sharing their application cycles here. I think we know what we're talking about.
 
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polylux said:
While I'm sure your experience is appreciated, since you didn't sit on the adcom for every school you listed, I think I'm still going to trust the advice that says non-URM probs shouldn't apply to HBCUs...
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No, but he did spend the night at a Holiday Inn Express.
 
Would a mid/late June submission of AACOMAS primary be considered early?

My expectation with my stats is simply acceptance into ANY DO school. I am not aiming for anything in particular.

I am confident that my stats can still get me something in 2014/2015. Maybe in 2025, DO averages will approach 40, but for now, I think I am fine.
 
Sean Lee said:
Would a mid/late June submission of AACOMAS primary be considered early?

My expectation with my stats is simply acceptance into ANY DO school. I am not aiming for anything in particular.
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Yes.
 
Sean Lee said:
Would a mid/late June submission of AACOMAS primary be considered early?

My expectation with my stats is simply acceptance into ANY DO school. I am not aiming for anything in particular.

I am confident that my stats can still get me something in 2014/2015. Maybe in 2025, DO averages will approach 40, but for now, I think I am fine.
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Is your name actually Sean Lee? Maybe I'll see you on the application trail, ha.
 
polylux said:
Is your name actually Sean Lee? Maybe I'll see you on the application trail, ha.
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Haha, of course not!

Sean is the first name of my closest high school friend, and Lee is the last name of my first girl friend.
 
dyspareunia said:
I'm glad you guys think you're super smart and all, but I sat on the adcom at my school as an MS1 and I'm quite sure I have a better handle on all of this than you.
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So what you're saying is that this chart saying about 68% admittance rate is lying or what? A 32% chance to be SOL seems reasonable enough for anyone to consider applying both MD and DO schools. Besides, you're absolutely wrong about HBCU. If you sat on the adcom at your school, probably you have credibility for your school, but by your statements, you have no credibility for general advice.
 
How did this turn into a WAMC thread? Lolzz
 
Getting really paranoid now! I'm taking the mcat on the 31st granted I don't move it and this cannot be good stress!!!
 
Sean Lee said:
Haha, of course not!

Sean is the first name of my closest high school friend, and Lee is the last name of my first girl friend.
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That's good, because the zeitgeist is here. There have been many threads about people being recognized in real life with mixed results.

In case I look like a hyprocrite, my username is the name of my first bichon frisé. I've already had people ask me if it's my real name too and how they know a Victoria H from somewhere....nope.
 
victoriah said:
That's good, because the zeitgeist is here. There have been many threads about people being recognized in real life with mixed results.

In case I look like a hyprocrite, my username is the name of my first bichon frisé. I've already had people ask me if it's my real name too and how they know a Victoria H from somewhere....nope.
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RIP, catinthehat :dead:
 
AlbinoHawk DO said:
So what you're saying is that this chart saying about 68% admittance rate is lying or what? A 32% chance to be SOL seems reasonable enough for anyone to consider applying both MD and DO schools. Besides, you're absolutely wrong about HBCU. If you sat on the adcom at your school, probably you have credibility for your school, but by your statements, you have no credibility for general advice.
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I'm saying that the mean is most useful given a normal distribution. In recent years my school has matriculated students mainly +/- 0.5 SD from the mean. I don't know the statistical term, but the graph looks like a camel.

Yes as you say this could be true for only my school, but I doubt it.
 
dyspareunia said:
I'm saying that the mean is most useful given a normal distribution. In recent years my school has matriculated students mainly +/- 0.5 SD from the mean. I don't know the statistical term, but the graph looks like a camel.

Yes as you say this could be true for only my school, but I doubt it.
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You mean a bimodal distribution? That's not surprising given the distribution of DO schools having either low or high stats, very few being truly middle.

A .5 +\- dist probably somewhat normal with some skew. Not sure why this is an issue tho.
 
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serenade said:
You mean a bimodal distribution? That's not surprising given the distribution of DO schools having either low or high stats, very few being truly middle.

A .5 +\- dist probably somewhat normal with some skew. Not sure why this is an issue tho.
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I go to a top 10 MD school. Bimodal (thank you) should be surprising now.
 
Sean Lee said:
User3, do you think 10 DO schools for me is enough given my 3.55-3.6 cGPA, 3.25-3.3 sGPA, and 33 MCAT?

I would prefer to apply to 15 schools, but the amount of time and money (and the fact that i'll be applying to MD schools as well) it will take probably means that I have to cap out at 10 DOs.

And I will be sending out both my MD and DO primaries in June, to maximize my chances for both.
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I would apply to 5-7 tops.
 
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