International applicant from oxford

[mcatguru1]

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Hello everyone


I'm a biology major from oxford university in the UK and am planning to get a canadian perm residency for the sole purpose of upping my chances at high tier US medical schools.

Will getting a canadian perm residency significantly increase my chances? at say Hopkins? Thanks a lot guys


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[Catalystik]

Hello everyone


I'm a biology major from oxford university in the UK and am planning to get a canadian perm residency for the sole purpose of upping my chances at high tier US medical schools.

Will getting a canadian perm residency significantly increase my chances? at say Hopkins? Thanks a lot guys


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A significant hurdle for you to be aware of will be that "high tier" US med schools have requirements that a certain number of educational credits are earned at US or Canadian universities and that AMCAS (primary med school application service) doesn't accept foreign transcripts.

 

[piii]

You will need to take all your required classes at North American institutions. And to answer your question: no it won't. Canadians are still considered international applicants and there not every school accepts internationals. Your best chance is getting residency in America, but doing that for the sole purpose of a "top school" is silly. Why don't you just take advantage of the incredibly cheap and easy system in the UK?

 

[mcatguru1]

Thanks so much for your reply guys. I wanted to be part of the MD PHD program and have been readily told that the place for graduate research is US, not anywhere else. From what i gather my only option will be to take the gre after getting an MBBS degree at some decent UK uni right?


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[Lucca]

Thanks so much for your reply guys. I wanted to be part of the MD PHD program and have been readily told that the place for graduate research is US, not anywhere else. From what i gather my only option will be to take the gre after getting an MBBS degree at some decent UK uni right?


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Here's the question: do you want to be a clinician scientist or just a scientist or just a clinician with a PhD? 2/3 of those do not require both degrees and one does. That being said, fully funded MD/PhD programs do not really consider international students. It is very, very rare for an international student to receive funding for the dual degree position because the programs were designed for Us citizens and are funded by the US federal government.

As far as graduate research being better in the US? On the other side of the pond nobody scoffs at research being done at Oxford, Cambridge, Edinburgh, UCL, or most of the other UK institutions. Many of us, in fact, go over to the UK precisely for graduate research. France, Germany, Switzerland and Sweden all have excellent biomedical research enterprises as well and all in countries with higher QOL for scientists, arguably, than the US.

Do you have a specific reason for wanting to come live and work in the US?

aren't there physician scientist pathways through the UK training system? Oxford and Cambridge both have graduate medical programs which take 4 years and the pathway to becoming a consultant probably has a myriad opportunities for scientific training and research as well, does it not?

 

[bearintraining]

Just to dispel some inaccurate information here: There are institutes who accept international students, then a subset of those would accept international students into their MD/PhD programs. The federally funded MSTP program (which is MD/PhD) can *not* fund an international students, but some schools are willing to use their own resources to fund such a student.

#1 priority is to score very well on the MCAT and have a high GPA. Then find those schools that allow international students for their MD/PhD programs and apply there, if that is what you're interested in pursuing. FYI that it is generally an 8 year degree path.