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I was wondering what your views were on this, and why you feel that way?
Are you talking about S.Asians from the States/Canada? Because over here in Canada, there's generally a large percentage of the youth who already are sticking with their own "desi" groups. I don't know how it's like across the border....ice_23 said:I don't believe anyone should ever have any problems with interracial relationships. If they do, they're probably jealous or have some underlying insecurity about their own racial identity.
However, that being said, sometimes I find that lots of south asian ppl (both men and women) have this pathological obsession of AVOIDING other south asian people for relationships at all costs. It's like dating outside of the race is a banner of pride or something. For some reason, this group of people bothers me far more than those against interracial relationships (and I realize that's probably irrational on my part).
-Ice
sunny123 said:Are you talking about S.Asians from the States/Canada? Because over here in Canada, there's generally a large percentage of the youth who already are sticking with their own "desi" groups. I don't know how it's like across the border....
You know, in highschool, there was this desi who was totally gorafied... the dude pronounced his name like a gora, and didn't want to do anything with any other brown person in the school. All of his friends were non-desi. Anyways.. when I went to this desi jam (I was fundraising for this non-profit organization), in walks this same dude from highschool, with a desi ladki on his arm. I was like, "whoa.. total 180".... the dude hated everything brown, but now he's ok with it....ice_23 said:I have cousins in Toronto and I was born/I live in the U.S. Although there exists a large contingent of S. Asians who stick together, there seems to also be a large contingent of those who lash out and refuse to date other S. Asians. And they somehow equate this preference of theirs as being better than those in the "desi" crew, as if they've "made it" or some other idiotic conclusion like that.
And I've found similar situations in Canada (I lived in canada for many of my summer vacations).
-Ice
i couldnt agree with u more datadata said:I have nothing about interracial relationships. Although when i see an Indian with a gori. Unless I know the guy in the relationship. I do have my own mind set saying that it won't work. Couple of things that I can't stand watching is where indian guys go out with white girls just cause they want to have fun with them and where not too many brown girls would. But they all settle down for a goody goody brown girl who will cook and clean from them imported straight from india. I know too many of this situation. 12 people I've met had this situation. Have long term relationships with the white girl then dump them as soon as a girl from india who is 8-9 years younger and knows the culture is available. This is when the guy realises that the white girl can't work well with the family. So after they have tasted the forbidden fruit they go back to their own cultural girl. Its stupid. I know a lot of interracial relationships that work out so well. Brown with white/black/oriental. I've seen every possibility. I would want to marry a non desi due to many reasons. But to see a girl that learns a new culture, put so much energy to meet a stubborn desi man just to get shot down because the desi guy finally decides its not worth it, or can''t get anything else out of the gori is useless. I really can't see anyone go through that anymore. If any one in that situation asks me if the guy is serious about hte reationship and if i know the guys personality or intention. i have no problem telling the girl straight up you are headed the wrong way. I think guys like that should be sent to the firing squad.
My best friend(guyanese) is currently in a relationship with an iranian girl and I totally approve of it. Only cause I know my friends character.
data said:I have nothing about interracial relationships. Although when i see an Indian with a gori. Unless I know the guy in the relationship. I do have my own mind set saying that it won't work. Couple of things that I can't stand watching is where indian guys go out with white girls just cause they want to have fun with them and where not too many brown girls would. But they all settle down for a goody goody brown girl who will cook and clean from them imported straight from india. I know too many of this situation. 12 people I've met had this situation. Have long term relationships with the white girl then dump them as soon as a girl from india who is 8-9 years younger and knows the culture is available. This is when the guy realises that the white girl can't work well with the family. So after they have tasted the forbidden fruit they go back to their own cultural girl. Its stupid. I know a lot of interracial relationships that work out so well. Brown with white/black/oriental. I've seen every possibility. I would want to marry a non desi due to many reasons. But to see a girl that learns a new culture, put so much energy to meet a stubborn desi man just to get shot down because the desi guy finally decides its not worth it, or can''t get anything else out of the gori is useless. I really can't see anyone go through that anymore. If any one in that situation asks me if the guy is serious about hte reationship and if i know the guys personality or intention. i have no problem telling the girl straight up you are headed the wrong way. I think guys like that should be sent to the firing squad.
My best friend(guyanese) is currently in a relationship with an iranian girl and I totally approve of it. Only cause I know my friends character.
ice_23 said:Yea that sucks and happens. But there is also the flip side. I've seen many S. Asian girls go out with the non-S. Asian male because they conjure up some ridiculous pre-conceived notion that S. Asian males are dominant control-oriented freaks who impede too much on ambiguous notions of female liberation. Plus, it's ok (or "cool") for them to screw around with some white jock than it is to be with the S. Asian dude (which apparently would be an acceptance of a traditionally dominated female role) when it comes to their idiotic ideas of social class (white guy/black guy > S. Asian guy >= E. Asian guy).
Women wish to taste the forbidden fruit just as much as men. Strangely, I've dealt with S. Asian women that will associate with me solely because they believe I'm either white or a mix/South American/Greek/whatever only to see them head for the hills when I tell them I'm Indian. As if suddenly they're not "special" in their association with me. Ridiculous.
-Ice
P.S. I do realize I've generalized, so there's truly no reason to point out the "not everyone's the same" overused retort. I recognize that. I like venting. 😉
Neurolemma said:Whats wrong with marrying your own kind? After all is said and done, you will agree with me that 1 + 1, not 1 + 0.5 = 2, right? 🙄
Well there are so many cases for both sides. I was too pissed off to write about hte pure indian girls *cough*Boinger said:i couldnt agree with u more data
but i differ on your point of the brownies i knwo plenty of brown girls that arent all that pure .... just fyi
Actually it is wrong to some degree. Well take for example the jews, which my racist reproduction prof. said this in class one day. (btw I have nothing against jews just for the sake of the arguement i am mentioning this) Jewish people have married into families for generations and certain diseases are arising only in Jewish bloods. Genetically its not good to keep marrying into your own family. And pretty much everyone in india is related..lol.Neurolemma said:Whats wrong with marrying your own kind? After all is said and done, you will agree with me that 1 + 1, not 1 + 0.5 = 2, right? 🙄
He is referring to Tay-Sach's disease. Tay-Sachs is high among people of Eastern European and Askhenazi Jewish descent. And Data is also referring to "Mueller's ratchet", which is the accumulation of deliterious alleles within a gene pool.Neurolemma said:I think you're referring to incest or marriage among first cousins. Marrying a distant cousin has no adverse reproductive implications, from a medical standpoint. As for Jews, well... they seem to be highly successful, so what can I say?
sunny123 said:He is referring to Tay-Sach's disease. Tay-Sachs is high among people of Eastern European and Askhenazi Jewish descent. And Data is also referring to "Mueller's ratchet", which is the accumulation of deliterious alleles within a gene pool.
sunny123 said:I got no problem with it because I believe in hybridity, plus, why limit yourself to ONE region of the earth? There are plenty of great and interesting people to spend the rest/or some part of your life with on this earth.
saffronrain said:You're right to an extent, however being a South Asian female in the U.S for over 13 years, I've noticed that not all S. Asian girls are like that. Most of my Indian friends (the female ones) prefer South Asian males over any other race. This is probably because they are thinking long-term, and it is obviously more practical because one can relate to someone else better if he/she is of the same race. I've also known some of my S. Asian friends (male or female) to hook-up with a person of another race, but in the end they get settled with a fellow South Asian. There are a few exceptions- I know plenty of people who have ended up marrying Americans, Chinese, Blacks, etc etc...
Personally I never go for non-Indian guys, but lately it's been a little different. I think that these days there are more interracial marriages/relationships to be found and that Indian parents (however stubborn and narrow-minded most may be) are embracing that (definitely not mine). As much as I would like to see myself and all of my South Asian friends in relationships with other South Asians, it's not going to happen. It's funny because my dad hates Indians, yet he doesn't want me marrying someone who's not Indian. I'm actually confused at this point in time as to what my real opinion on interracial marriages and/or relationships is, but I think for now I'll say that I'm definitely not against it.
Premedtomed said:Nerd
No offense I am about preserving culture. It is disturbing to see people born and bred here be more familiar with the Bible than Bhagavad Gita
Unless interracial marriages don't lead to weening away from our culture, as it usually happens, couples talking about bars, well Indians themselves talking about it --> 👎
BTW Saffronrainji "mera number cut ho gaya kya?"![]()
You never looked at a map before?rrreagan said:Cut it out with this SOUTH ASIAN crap, all right?
Call a spade a spade, a Indian an Indian, and an Oriental an Oriental, all right?
What exactly is a SOUTH ASIAN, anyway?
Premedtomed said:Nerd
No offense I am about preserving culture. It is disturbing to see people born and bred here be more familiar with the Bible than Bhagavad Gita
Unless interracial marriages don't lead to weening away from our culture, as it usually happens, couples talking about bars, well Indians themselves talking about it --> 👎
BTW Saffronrainji "mera number cut ho gaya kya?"![]()
rrreagan said:THE BHAVAGAD GITA? What a load of crap? Does anybody read that garbage?
Hinduism is a contemptible morass of idolatry, wickedness and demon-worship.
rrreagan said:Cut it out with this SOUTH ASIAN crap, all right?
Call a spade a spade, a Indian an Indian, and an Oriental an Oriental, all right?
What exactly is a SOUTH ASIAN, anyway?
rrreagan said:THE BHAVAGAD GITA? What a load of crap? Does anybody read that garbage?
Hinduism is a contemptible morass of idolatry, wickedness and demon-worship.
saffronrain said:Just cuz you're a ****** doesn't mean I can't use the term "South Asian."
"South Asian" refers to Indian, Pakistani, Nepalese, Bangladeshi, or Sri Lankan.
ice_23 said:Wow, the trolls are really trying to up their provacative game.
-Ice
saffronrain said:What race and religion are you?
saffronrain said:Just cuz you're a ****** doesn't mean I can't use the term "South Asian."
"South Asian" refers to Indian, Pakistani, Nepalese, Bangladeshi, or Sri Lankan.
Premedtomed said:Nerd
No offense I am about preserving culture. It is disturbing to see people born and bred here be more familiar with the Bible than Bhagavad Gita
Unless interracial marriages don't lead to weening away from our culture, as it usually happens, couples talking about bars, well Indians themselves talking about it --> 👎
BTW Saffronrainji "mera number cut ho gaya kya?"![]()
rrreagan said:Why don't you answer MY question?
Has anyone actually read the bHAVGAD GITA, including so-called Hindus like yourself?
sunny123 said:You sir are a ******ed bandar, no offence 🙄 🙄 🙄
you missed bhutansunny123 said:You never looked at a map before?
S.Asian= anyone belonging to the regions of Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nepal, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Andaman & Nicobar Islands.
Just because this part of the forum is labelled India (as it was wrongfully done so), doesn't mean we exclude everyone. Saffron is being PC, and rightfully so.
and I also missed Lakshadeep Islands, but you get my point. 😉data said:you missed bhutan
The maldives as well...lolsunny123 said:and I also missed Lakshadeep Islands, but you get my point. 😉
What does this line have to do with interracial relationships? Honestly, I'm confused. Do you like adding lines to make you sound smart? or are you just venting?Premedtomed said:If you look at the political landscape here in the US , conservative Christians/evangelicals are gaining popularity and clout. Would you call them against progress??
saffronrain said:What race and religion are you?
sunny123 said:and I also missed Lakshadeep Islands, but you get my point. 😉
And you're a friggin harpy, so you win.rrreagan said:You're a black liar. People in these other countries would not want to be lumped in the rubric 'SOUTH ASIAN.'
The people in those countries are of different ethnicities and religions.
Anyway, as you define it, > 95% of the 'SOUTH ASIANS' are 'INDIANS,' effectively making the term meaningless.
By the way, whatever happened to the term 'EAST INDIAN?' Is that no longer in vogue?
rrreagan said:Why don't you answer MY question?
Has anyone actually read the bHAVGAD GITA, including so-called Hindus like yourself?
rrreagan said:I'm a white Presbyterian and proud of it.....
One of my goals in life is proselytizing unbelieving Hindoos like yourself.
I am just trying to figure out your all cultural and social influences.data said:What does this line have to do with interracial relationships? Honestly, I'm confused. Do you like adding lines to make you sound smart? or are you just venting?
Whoa boy... look out!! We got a boy who ATTENDS cultural functions... Well whoopdi-doo for you!! Attending cultural functions and practicing them out are TWO DIFFERENT things. WHat kind of expert are you, for making such an idiotic claim? One does not need to watch FAKE-cultural functions that are put up (especially here in North America) for the main purpose of shoving kids on stage for so their parents will gain some pride. I have seen very few serious performances for the sake of promoting the pure artform. It has nothing to do with culture, but everything to do with who can do what best, so their parents can brag.Premedtomed said:I have , you piece of trash. You would have gotten your ass kicked if I met you in real life.
But then ppl like you are all over.
As for Sunny, I have been here for almost six years and have seen more Asian/ Indians than you can imagine. INdia is not a pure devi
DON"T USE IT AS AN EXCUSE. YOU ARE SADLY A PATHETIC ***** YOURSELF WITH VERY LIMITED VIEW (NO WONDER YOU ALWAYS SHOW UP ON THESE FORUMS) . mY EXAMPLES ARE MY OWN RELATIVES, IF YOU FIND THAT DISTURBING THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM. ABOUT FOOLING AROUND, I AM SORRY THAT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN AGAIN AS I AM TIRED OF IT MYSELF.
YOU ARE A JACKASS YOURSELF! YOU haven't seen the world from the other side - mainly my side. IN INDIA **** HAPPENS BUT THERE ARE INSTITUTIONS AND ALL KINDS OF CULTURAL ACTIVITIES
I HAVE YET TO SEE ANYONE OF MY AGE BEING INTERESTED IN ANY SUCH ACTIVITIES - FOR YOUR INFO. I GO TO A LOT OF THEM HERE IN CINCINNATI.