Is an IPAD highly recommended?

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I’m only in week one but I’ve used my iPad a ton. Notability with Apple Pencil has made things super easy.
 
If you want to type notes, I would recommend just using one note on a Mac or pc. Personally, I need to diagram and annotate the heck out of things as part of my process so I never type using my iPad. When I'm writing summaries or review guides, I will type and then draw diagrams. It really depends on you and your process. I learned in my postbac that annotating lecture slides really helped me but the amount of slides we go through on a daily basis is absolutely too much to print/organize.
 
I didn’t use mine at all first year. I ended up just giving it to my kids to watch movies on. I just jot my notes into my first aid book. I don’t take a ton of notes. Just underlining and writing some supplementary things to make sure I have the details. Sometimes I draw pictures or flow charts.
 
Not an ipad but I use my Surface Pro to take notes during lectures. The Surface Book is also a good alternative. I always had an iPad but never use it lol
 
Honestly not that useful so far a couple weeks into M1... definitely could get by without it... but I had to spend my $1,200 check from Trump somehow
 
I used it exclusively for notes first and second year
 
I bought the cheaper one and the Apple Pencil. I like having my notes, slides, textbooks, etc available, able to be annotated and in the cloud on a slim iPad rather than a bunch of binders and notebooks.

However, I still draw and write notes from memory in a paper notebook or on a whiteboard while reviewing on the weekends and at night. I keep these at home and don’t lug them around, because they’re just for recall.

If I were a serious anki use I wouldn’t ever use my iPad and my laptop would be sufficient, but that’s not my study style. Do what works for you.
 
I gave up on IPad note taking when I found XMind. Its a concept mapping software. It is organized, clean, aesthetically pleasing, quicker to type, MUCH more easily reviewable, "foldable" sub-topics means you can quiz/review your material in a step wise manner rather than just rereading notes, and I've learned that the non-linear approach of concept/mind mapping is extremely advantageous for me. I think theres also been research that supports the idea of spatial recall, like being able to mentally place an idea in a location in your notes, can greatly help with recall. Only negative I have is $30 a year.
 
Our lectures were uploaded to a portal prior to class. I'd import those power points into Notability on my iPad before each class then annotate them with the Apple Pencil during lecture (all lectures had 100% mandatory attendance at my school). This worked very well and I preferred it to typing in the notes section of the power points like some of my classmates did.
 
Lectures are online, just screen shot slides and add notes to anki cards. After reviewing the subject outside of lecture, you will likely have few notes anyway. For this reason laptop + mouse. Writing out notes is inefficient unless you don't have access to the above at the time.

Edit: I do have an iPad that was provided, but I use it for recreation.
 
I've used it more than I thought I would. I like watching all my lectures at 2x and taking brief notes on the slides after I've watched BnB or read first aid. I'll never go back and look at these notes probably, but I use it as a semi active way of learning by jotting down what I think the slide is going to talk about/filling in details based on what I've learned from the outside resources. Plus it's nice to have anything I might want to write down in one place thats easy to access across all my devices. Honestly if I didn't have all apple stuff I think it would be less worth it.
 
I mean, I like having another battery powered screen to watch ATLA on. (Don't waste your money)
 
I gave up on IPad note taking when I found XMind. Its a concept mapping software. It is organized, clean, aesthetically pleasing, quicker to type, MUCH more easily reviewable, "foldable" sub-topics means you can quiz/review your material in a step wise manner rather than just rereading notes, and I've learned that the non-linear approach of concept/mind mapping is extremely advantageous for me. I think theres also been research that supports the idea of spatial recall, like being able to mentally place an idea in a location in your notes, can greatly help with recall. Only negative I have is $30 a year.

The cmap software is a concept mapping software. We downloaded it for free through school. No annual fee.
 
Based on what everyone said; I'm not going to get an IPAD.

I'll just skip notes entirely.
 
Based on what everyone said; I'm not going to get an IPAD.

I'll just skip notes entirely.
Good move. I didn't write a single note in the first two years. I drew some stuff on paper/whiteboard for practice once in a while and then threw it away/erased when I was done. Being sane in med school is about efficiency and intensity. Do not be like some of your classmates who do useless high school things like organize/color code notes, take a bunch of detailed notes that don't do anything, rewrite a bunch of stuff. It's all a huge waste of time.

You definitely don't need anki to succeed in school and it can take more time than traditional methods for some people, but I want to mention it because the extra time it takes further reinforces the point. When I compared the time I was taking using anki, but not doing anything else, to the time a lot of my classmates took to study it was clear that I was taking far less time studying and I was using that time to actually learn.

Bottomline, try really hard to evaluate your studies methods and then buy stuff based on that.
 
Good move. I didn't write a single note in the first two years. I drew some stuff on paper/whiteboard for practice once in a while and then threw it away/erased when I was done. Being sane in med school is about efficiency and intensity. Do not be like some of your classmates who do useless high school things like organize/color code notes, take a bunch of detailed notes that don't do anything, rewrite a bunch of stuff. It's all a huge waste of time.

You definitely don't need anki to succeed in school and it can take more time than traditional methods for some people, but I want to mention it because the extra time it takes further reinforces the point. When I compared the time I was taking using anki, but not doing anything else, to the time a lot of my classmates took to study it was clear that I was taking far less time studying and I was using that time to actually learn.

Bottomline, try really hard to evaluate your studies methods and then buy stuff based on that.

Or maybe people learn differently, and what works for you might not be the best for other people.
 
Good move. I didn't write a single note in the first two years. I drew some stuff on paper/whiteboard for practice once in a while and then threw it away/erased when I was done. Being sane in med school is about efficiency and intensity. Do not be like some of your classmates who do useless high school things like organize/color code notes, take a bunch of detailed notes that don't do anything, rewrite a bunch of stuff. It's all a huge waste of time.

You definitely don't need anki to succeed in school and it can take more time than traditional methods for some people, but I want to mention it because the extra time it takes further reinforces the point. When I compared the time I was taking using anki, but not doing anything else, to the time a lot of my classmates took to study it was clear that I was taking far less time studying and I was using that time to actually learn.

Bottomline, try really hard to evaluate your studies methods and then buy stuff based on that.
I learned this during undergrad after taking the MCAT. While note taking feels like it's helping you memorize it actually does not do anything at all. And it wastes a lot of time that can be used to actually memorize.

I'm going to stick with the tried and true method of ANKI. Thanks for the input!
 
Or maybe people learn differently, and what works for you might not be the best for other people.
There is definitely variability to how we learn. It's just not nearly as varied as some people believe. That said, it bears mentioning that every single year we have the same large number of threads in the same order. First they start with "I'm studying so hard blah blah blah" and then we learn that they aren't actually studying the time they are saying. Then, a few months later, we proceed to the "I'm so burnt out and not performing well" threads where we learn that they are doing what I mentioned above or reading textbooks or listening to lecture and furiously taking notes the whole time on the same things that are on the powerpoint slides already or something else silly lol.

I'll repeat again that I don't think you need anki although I personally use it. I just think it's important to bring up that M1s need to be sure they aren't killing themselves because they didn't get out of their sophomore year history class studying style.
 
I learned this during undergrad after taking the MCAT. While note taking feels like it's helping you memorize it actually does not do anything at all. And it wastes a lot of time that can be used to actually memorize.

I'm going to stick with the tried and true method of ANKI. Thanks for the input!

I think it depends on the learner and the technique. If I watch a BnB video and just passively watch/listen to it, my retention will be much lower than if I am underlining stuff and jotting down notes in first aid. But I’m a very kinetic learner. If I tried to write down everything he said, it would be super inefficient. But that’s why I have FA and anki.

Honestly I could probably just doodle while watching the videos and get a similar effect, but I like having little notes in the margins and **** that give more depth.
 
I think it depends on the learner and the technique. If I watch a BnB video and just passively watch/listen to it, my retention will be much lower than if I am underlining stuff and jotting down notes in first aid. But I’m a very kinetic learner. If I tried to write down everything he said, it would be super inefficient. But that’s why I have FA and anki.

Honestly I could probably just doodle while watching the videos and get a similar effect, but I like having little notes in the margins and **** that give more depth.
This is exactly my point. You just made the distinction between what a new M1 often thinks "taking notes" is and what taking notes actually is! Faculty certainly aren't making this distinction at schools based on the questions online and it's kind of glossed over here too at times.
 
There is definitely variability to how we learn. It's just not nearly as varied as some people believe. That said, it bears mentioning that every single year we have the same large number of threads in the same order. First they start with "I'm studying so hard blah blah blah" and then we learn that they aren't actually studying the time they are saying. Then, a few months later, we proceed to the "I'm so burnt out and not performing well" threads where we learn that they are doing what I mentioned above or reading textbooks or listening to lecture and furiously taking notes the whole time on the same things that are on the powerpoint slides already or something else silly lol.

I'll repeat again that I don't think you need anki although I personally use it. I just think it's important to bring up that M1s need to be sure they aren't killing themselves because they didn't get out of their sophomore year history class studying style.

You bring up a few different things here. First is how varied different learning styles can be. It may not seem like they could be too varied, but just from looking at my kids I can tell you they can be.

My one kid will not remember **** if you just tell her. Like literally will forget it a few minutes later. If you have her do something physical while she’s learning, like jump up and down or use physical objects to learn math, etc., she will learn really fast.

My other kid gets nothing out of the physical stuff. She is very auditory. She doesn’t need to move around or anything while she’s learning, and if she does it makes it less likely she’ll retain it because it’s distracting. But if I tell her something while she’s paying attention to me, she’ll remember it for a long ass time.

So while I agree that learning really is not that varied in that we need spaced repetition to solidify things, the way that it gets into your brain best can be pretty different from person to person.

The second thing you bring up is study efficiency. That, I 100% agree with. A LOT of people think they are studying really hard and for a long time, but they are not studying efficiently. But that isn’t because they are taking notes and taking notes isn’t efficient. It might be because they are taking notes and that isn’t the most efficient way for them, but it could also be because they are trying to watch lectures but are a more kinetic learner who needs to be jotting a couple things down as the lecture goes on. Or maybe they need to be pacing around the room repeating things and talking them through.

I’ve even seen someone struggle really hard until he started making physical models of things out of paper (not like origami or anything, just like little cutouts), and then it all clicked and he started studying way more efficiently.

And for the record, I use anki. I use cheesy lightyear, and I love it. Way better and more efficient than making my own cards.
 
This is exactly my point. You just made the distinction between what a new M1 often thinks "taking notes" is and what taking notes actually is! Faculty certainly aren't making this distinction at schools based on the questions online and it's kind of glossed over here too at times.

Yeah exactly. If by “taking notes” we mean furiously typing or jotting down as much of what they say as possible, then no that is not going to work for anyone pretty much lol.
 
In my experience, the only useful form of note taking is when you're explaining the reasoning behind an Anki card and putting that in the extra section, especially for the mechanism heavy subjects like phys and pharm. What makes it even better is the fact that you're seeing it repeatedly over time. But even this is unnecessary.
 
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You bring up a few different things here. First is how varied different learning styles can be. It may not seem like they could be too varied, but just from looking at my kids I can tell you they can be.

My one kid will not remember **** if you just tell her. Like literally will forget it a few minutes later. If you have her do something physical while she’s learning, like jump up and down or use physical objects to learn math, etc., she will learn really fast.

My other kid gets nothing out of the physical stuff. She is very auditory. She doesn’t need to move around or anything while she’s learning, and if she does it makes it less likely she’ll retain it because it’s distracting. But if I tell her something while she’s paying attention to me, she’ll remember it for a long ass time.

So while I agree that learning really is not that varied in that we need spaced repetition to solidify things, the way that it gets into your brain best can be pretty different from person to person.

The second thing you bring up is study efficiency. That, I 100% agree with. A LOT of people think they are studying really hard and for a long time, but they are not studying efficiently. But that isn’t because they are taking notes and taking notes isn’t efficient. It might be because they are taking notes and that isn’t the most efficient way for them, but it could also be because they are trying to watch lectures but are a more kinetic learner who needs to be jotting a couple things down as the lecture goes on. Or maybe they need to be pacing around the room repeating things and talking them through.

I’ve even seen someone struggle really hard until he started making physical models of things out of paper (not like origami or anything, just like little cutouts), and then it all clicked and he started studying way more efficiently.

And for the record, I use anki. I use cheesy lightyear, and I love it. Way better and more efficient than making my own cards.
I more or less agree with you. I won't go further off track on the learning styles thing as I believe the application on medical education versus a developing child is far different and represents a fringe situation in medicine.

I will say though that the spirit of my post is that success in medical school is absolutely charted territory. There are no secrets as long as you use SDN or reddit. It's completely apparent who doesn't. So when I say avoid the pitfalls of "...useless high school things like organize/color code notes, take a bunch of detailed notes that don't do anything, rewrite a bunch of stuff. It's all a huge waste of time." I don't think that's controversial. Perhaps you would agree if I put an asterisk on it and said "unless you are 1% of students who doesn't learn at all unless they make a handwritten color coded tome" lol
 
Exactly my point. You do you. Whatever gets you that bone surgeon spot.

I think the larger point that Neo is trying to make, which I agree with, is that traditional note taking is just unnecessary and inefficient for the majority of people, with relatively few requiring these methods to perform at their highest level of potential.
 
I more or less agree with you. I won't go further off track on the learning styles thing as I believe the application on medical education versus a developing child is far different and represents a fringe situation in medicine.

I will say though that the spirit of my post is that success in medical school is absolutely charted territory. There are no secrets as long as you use SDN or reddit. It's completely apparent who doesn't. So when I say avoid the pitfalls of "...useless high school things like organize/color code notes, take a bunch of detailed notes that don't do anything, rewrite a bunch of stuff. It's all a huge waste of time." I don't think that's controversial. Perhaps you would agree if I put an asterisk on it and said "unless you are 1% of students who doesn't learn at all unless they make a handwritten color coded tome" lol

No I totally agree with you. My only point is that while med school is charted territory in that there are staples like BnB, anki, etc., while you are watching BnB, sketchy, pathoma, whatever, people learn differently. Some people can just watch it on 4x and absorb it and then hammer it home with anki. Some people have to watch it slower and jot some things down to make it stick...and then do anki.

That’s all I meant. When you first talked about taking notes, I didn’t realize you meant like college or high school notes. Your post about different color highlighters and ****, I totally agree with.
 
The cmap software is a concept mapping software. We downloaded it for free through school. No annual fee.


I think cmap is free to anyone. Maybe it works great for you! But its not really comparable to what I am referring to. Freemind is a free software that is somewhat similar to Xmind, its pretty useful. But Xmind is a highly supported, pleasing to look at, brand new software with a very straight forward interface, and quality of life improvements that I am happy to pay for. The most valuable features of Xmind is its ability to collapse hierarchies of nodes, allowing you to quiz yourself more effectively, and its incredibly easy way to insert new nodes, screenshots, charts, tables, timelines, and it works cross platform with one subscription.
 
I think cmap is free to anyone. Maybe it works great for you! But its not really comparable to what I am referring to. Freemind is a free software that is somewhat similar to Xmind, its pretty useful. But Xmind is a highly supported, pleasing to look at, brand new software with a very straight forward interface, and quality of life improvements that I am happy to pay for. The most valuable features of Xmind is its ability to collapse hierarchies of nodes, allowing you to quiz yourself more effectively, and its incredibly easy way to insert new nodes, screenshots, charts, tables, timelines, and it works cross platform with one subscription.

Sounds like you’re willing to pay for the subscription. I personally don’t use mind mapping except for the one or two things per module they make us do.
 
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