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Not much talk about BU, and if it there is its hardly positive. The school is very expensive, but so is NYU. If not considering price is BU a decent school to attend? Is is worth forfeiting a BU acceptance and apply next year ?
 

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While BU may be expensive, think about the loss of salary you'll face if you withdraw your acceptance. Let’s say you make 130k a year as a dentist. If you get accepted to a different D-school next year, will the difference in cost be at least 130k, and what about the year you'll lose, and the cost of taking more classes, and the stress of reapplying again and not knowing if you'll get in? If BU is the only school that accepts you this year, do you really feel that by next year you'll be that much more competitive and make it to a cheaper and so called "better" school?
 

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konovsi said:
Not much talk about BU, and if it there is its hardly positive. The school is very expensive, but so is NYU. If not considering price is BU a decent school to attend? Is is worth forfeiting a BU acceptance and apply next year ?

no BU is not a bad school just because they accept people with lower stats and the school is really expensive does not mean that it is a bad school it really doesnt mean that a 4.0 dental student will be better than a 3.0 one...
 

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i would go to BU if i got acceptance. It's in the top 50
 

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i would go to BU if i got acceptance. It's in the top 50
top 50?! theres only like 48 schools in the country all of them are in the top 50...
 

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i dont know why people have such bad attitudes toward BU and NYU. just b/c they're expensive? i've talked a lot with my advisor about this and they've been doing this (advising) for over 25 years and she was like trust me, there's nothing bad about it.
i'm not saying this just because i'll be gng to BU. i just feel that its upto you, and the opportunities you create for urself. i think its amazing to be in a city where you will be able to meet so many people and make so many contacts, esp with the apex program. i mean..people who graduate from BU are gna be good dentists if they want to be, and people who graduate from another state school are gna be good dentists if they want to be too.
and Boston is an AMAZING city to be in...trust me, you'll have the time of ur life!
anyway good luck with ur decision! that was just my opinion
 

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top 50?! theres only like 48 schools in the country all of them are in the top 50...
Im pretty sure he was being sarcastic :rolleyes:
 

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Let me conclude this thread by saying

"No Schools are GOOD. But, No Students are BAD." - by mwsung Feb, 05

Saying this, we should be proud of ourselves that it's "US" (not the United States of America~ duh~) that make schools look GOOD. Damn, I am a genius!!
 

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Let me conclude this thread by saying

"No Schools are GOOD. But, No Students are BAD." - by mwsung Feb, 05

Saying this, we should be proud of ourselves that it's "US" (not the United States of America~ duh~) that make schools look GOOD. Damn, I am a genius!!

ahh yes you're a genius with those stats!! :D
 

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ahh yes you're a genius with those stats!! :D
Go wherever you get accpeted. if you get accepted to more than 1 school, then you can be picky, but if u only get accepted to 1 school then go there, do not pass up the opportunity. remember the student is what makes a good dentist, not the school. a dentist from Bu may be better than a dentist from harvard and the opposite may be true as well. it depends how much work you put in, teach yourself, dont rely on others to teach you. they can only show you so much. good luck and dont pass up an opportunity that a lot of people would kill for.
 

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I want to put in my two cents.

If you have only one acceptance, I don't think you have the right to be picky. Don't listen to the advice of folks that you don't know personally, since they do not always have the best intentions with their opinion.

Going to a "better" school or a cheaper or more expensive school doesn't mean that you will become a better dentist; it is how much work you put in, whether you have some natural hand skills that allow you to pick up techniques quickly, etc.

Every school has its problems, and generally most students will always have ideas as to how their school can improve, no school is perfect.

I know many students from very different schools such as BU, NYU, Tufts, UOP, USC, UCLA, etc. that don't pass their state licensing board exam on their first try, while other students from those exact schools pass on their first try. While sitting here at the computer, most pre-dental student would rather choose UCLA over the other more expensive private schools, but like I said, your experience will be what you make of it. Of course to to a cheaper school to save money, but at the same time don't look down on another school just because it is expensive.

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i dont know why people have such bad attitudes toward BU and NYU. just b/c they're expensive? i've talked a lot with my advisor about this and they've been doing this (advising) for over 25 years and she was like trust me, there's nothing bad about it.
i'm not saying this just because i'll be gng to BU. i just feel that its upto you, and the opportunities you create for urself. i think its amazing to be in a city where you will be able to meet so many people and make so many contacts, esp with the apex program. i mean..people who graduate from BU are gna be good dentists if they want to be, and people who graduate from another state school are gna be good dentists if they want to be too.
and Boston is an AMAZING city to be in...trust me, you'll have the time of ur life!
anyway good luck with ur decision! that was just my opinion
One of the students who works at my lab told me how his dentist (who, by the way has his practice in La Jolla California, a really expensive part of San Diego CA) loved his educational experience at BU. I think, that is one of the reasons dental schools cannot be ranked. The education is the same at UCSF as it is at NYU as its in UPenn. I have applied really late for the 05 cycle and BU, and USC have invited me for an interview, if BU happens to accept me, HELL!! I'm going
 

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The education is the same at UCSF as it is at NYU as its in UPenn.
This is wrong....dental schools are significantly different in their curriculm and approach to dentistry....being such a broad field, different schools focus on different aspects of dentistry.....and THIS is the reason why dental schools are not ranked
 

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Ind201 said:
i dont know why people have such bad attitudes toward BU and NYU.
Personally, I dont know why people have such a bad view on NYU, cause i think its a good school.....but I do understand the bad hype about BU :D
 

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Personally, I dont know why people have such a bad view on NYU, cause i think its a good school.....but I do understand the bad hype about BU :D
From all the anti-posts that you have written BadVibes it seems maybe you were rejected from BU or something. You seem to have a hatred toward a school you don't even go to for some odd reason. Oh any by the way to the OP BU is a fine school as is every dental school in the US. You can't base your decision on what a couple people say on this forum because they have personal problems with certain schools. This is a great forum to get people's advice and some background information about schools and such but if you are actually basing your opinion on what strangers are saying than you have a problem (ie not going to say BU because people are bad mouthing it on a forum if it is the only school you get into).
 

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i think the best idea would be talk with ur advisor at school if u have one. (premed/predent advisor) because they know how it really works.
please do not base ur opinion on the opinions of certain people on this forum.
 

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From all the anti-posts that you have written BadVibes it seems maybe you were rejected from BU or something. You seem to have a hatred toward a school you don't even go to for some odd reason. Oh any by the way to the OP BU is a fine school as is every dental school in the US. You can't base your decision on what a couple people say on this forum because they have personal problems with certain schools. This is a great forum to get people's advice and some background information about schools and such but if you are actually basing your opinion on what strangers are saying than you have a problem (ie not going to say BU because people are bad mouthing it on a forum if it is the only school you get into).
Actually I got into BU with flying colours, which is something that I dont brag about for obvious reasons. Anyways, I keep on telling people to not listen to me and talk to others....I dunno if I would talk with BU grads, cause Im sure they are all happy that BU sends their students to their office to be slaves :p

sure BU will give you a DMD, but its at such a high cost, and you dont get anything out of it. Sheesh, NYU is also very expensive, but at least you get a clinical experience, Invasalign, etc. UOP is expensive, but its only 3 years. Tufts and USC are also expensive, but you get one of the best clinical training in the country.

It just seems to me that being such an expensive school, BU really doesnt offer anything to justify its cost. And I hope someone doesnt say APEX, cause Ill barf all over my computer if they do
 

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Ind201 said:
i think the best idea would be talk with ur advisor at school if u have one. (premed/predent advisor) because they know how it really works.
please do not base ur opinion on the opinions of certain people on this forum.
How the hell are advisors gonna know whats going on??? Trust me, if your advisor said to goto BU over another school, than your advisor is obviously an idiot

Its easy for an advisor to tell a student to not worry and goto any school..the advisor isnt the one gonna graduate with like a million dollars of debt from BU...
 

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Actually I got into BU with flying colours, which is something that I dont brag about for obvious reasons. Anyways, I keep on telling people to not listen to me and talk to others....I dunno if I would talk with BU grads, cause Im sure they are all happy that BU sends their students to their office to be slaves :p

sure BU will give you a DMD, but its at such a high cost, and you dont get anything out of it. Sheesh, NYU is also very expensive, but at least you get a clinical experience, Invasalign, etc. UOP is expensive, but its only 3 years. Tufts and USC are also expensive, but you get one of the best clinical training in the country.

It just seems to me that being such an expensive school, BU really doesnt offer anything to justify its cost. And I hope someone doesnt say APEX, cause Ill barf all over my computer if they do
i dont know why i bother but i just cannot resist. i fail to understand how you can be so sure that BU doesnt offer anything justify its cost? do u go there? obviously they have something to offer since they're an accredited university. i'm sure u'll come with a crafty answer as u always do. i just dont know why u hate BU with a passion.

and J2AZ, prove otherwise! obviously you havent been alive in the past week.
 

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i dont know why i bother but i just cannot resist. i fail to understand how you can be so sure that BU doesnt offer anything justify its cost? do u go there? obviously they have something to offer since they're an accredited university. i'm sure u'll come with a crafty answer as u always do. i just dont know why u hate BU with a passion.

and J2AZ, prove otherwise! obviously you havent been alive in the past week.
When I visited the school, I really didnt see anything that the school offered. All I saw were some nice technology here and there.....ANd during my interview, they kept on hyping the APEX program, which I am convinced that BU just made up to try and differentiate themselves from other schools cause previously they did not have a solid marketing tool, but thats just a personal theory though.

They dont have a solid clinical education....they dont really produce many specialisits....they make you buy an expensive laptop that I could probably get at half price on my own....I just dont how or in what way their program shines? You need something that makes you stand out in order to justify such an enormous cost, right? And I really hope that its not APEX cause that is just sad then.....

Can you tell me what justifies the cost of BU to you?

ANd by the way, I dont hate BU.....its just the last school I would choose out of any other school in the US, but if it were my only acceptence, I would definitely go there
 

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...which I am convinced that BU just made up to try and differentiate themselves from other schools cause previously they did not have a solid marketing tool, but thats just a personal theory though.
I spoke to a BU student recently and she told me that the APEX program is all about getting students out of the facilities (pre-clinics, lecture rooms, etc.) so that they can train international dentists or some other group of people that aren't in their mainstream dds/dmd program. It is strictly a money-making thing for Boston University's dental school according to her. She says its ironic they try and make it seem like a program for the students, while its mostly about getting more students through their doors (and leaving their tuition behind).
 

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well about the cost i think its mainly because its in boston. its an expensive place to live in. tufts has around the same cost as well. and i do agree abt the laptop too..dont like the fact that they make u buy it.
i'm sure there are lots of downsides to the program, but i guess if i have to choose between nyu and bu, i'd chose bu.
i guess i'll know the truth once i see everything for myself. shall upate you if i'm wrong and you're right with BU!
 

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ANd by the way, I dont hate BU.....its just the last school I would choose out of any other school in the US, but if it were my only acceptence, I would definitely go there
:eek: Ouch!! That's pretty harsh Dr. BadVibes! Come on, BU isn't that bad. Anyhow, aren't you all about clinical schools. From what you've posted in the past, the last school I thought you would want to attend would be Harvard.

I have a big soft-spot in my heart for BU. :love: They were my first interview, and they were sooo nice. I really liked all the students that I met there. Also, they were my first acceptance. I never once have thought one thing bad about BU (except maybe the APEX thing - but that's heresy IMO).
Good luck Ind201 - boston is awesome.
 

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:eek: Ouch!! That's pretty harsh Dr. BadVibes! Come on, BU isn't that bad. Anyhow, aren't you all about clinical schools. From what you've posted in the past, the last school I thought you would want to attend would be Harvard.
Well, Harvard isnt at the top of my list either, but cmon, if I had a choice between Harvard or BU, it wouldnt be a hard choice to make! :D

Honestly, I cant think of any school I would choose BU over....
 

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Ok guys,

If BU was that bad, it wouldn't be accredited. NYU is a lot more expensive than BU, though the tuition diff isn't much, NYC is MUCH more expensive to live in than is Boston (although Boston isn't cheap either). After finding out about my BU acceptance I cancelled my NYU interview right away- not that it's a bad school, but because BU is a better fit for me personally. Just because it may not suit some of you, I really do not think you should discourage those of us going to BU! I had a hard time thinking of the finances originally, but after thinking long and hard - it's a definite GO! Since being accepted, I've already had a few hurdles to overcome, and the admin at BU has been nothing but super nice and supportive. I can honestly say that I look forward to working with the faculty there, and am so comforted by the fact that Dr. Shaw is there, she is one AMAZING woman. Since BU is the only school that's accepted me so far, I cannot complain - they're giving me a chance to fulfill my dream that nobody else is willing to do - not even Canada-my own country! :mad:

For those of us going - don't listen to the pessimism of others. We're all going to be dentists, we're going to a great city, a great school, and will be with amazing faculty and classmates. We're gonna have a blast :D !
 

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Honestly, I cant think of any school I would choose BU over....
even UConn!!! :eek: :eek:










:rolleyes:
 

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I cannot complain - they're giving me a chance to fulfill my dream that nobody else is willing to do - not even Canada-my own country! :mad:

:D !
Welcome to America ! The land of freedom and opportunity. :love: :love: :love:
 

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Welcome to America ! The land of freedom and opportunity. :love: :love: :love:
Was that a joke? He's from Toronto.

Technically speaking, in terms of getting into dental school, Canada is more of a land of freedom and opportunity than the US. Understand that Canadian dental schools are much cheaper - so if you're from an underpriveleged family you could actually attend. So, if you work hard enough and your gpa is high enough you can go to a canadian dental school. In the US, the price of attending dental school is so high, that I'm sure a large number of people don't even bother applying because they're not in an economic class where that's feasible.

I think that if you did some sort of study looking at the parents of students in dental school in the US, you'd find that their earning power is way above average. I stress the average; i know there are many dental students who finance their own tuition and that's pretty amazing.
 

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Was that a joke? He's from Toronto.

Technically speaking, in terms of getting into dental school, Canada is more of a land of freedom and opportunity than the US. Understand that Canadian dental schools are much cheaper - so if you're from an underpriveleged family you could actually attend. So, if you work hard enough and your gpa is high enough you can go to a canadian dental school. In the US, the price of attending dental school is so high, that I'm sure a large number of people don't even bother applying because they're not in an economic class where that's feasible.

I think that if you did some sort of study looking at the parents of students in dental school in the US, you'd find that their earning power is way above average. I stress the average; i know there are many dental students who finance their own tuition and that's pretty amazing.
BTW I'm a SHE,

I realize that its cheaper in Canada. I take offense to the part where u say if you study hard enough you can get in. To get into Canada, the cutoff is like a 3.7, so even though I killed myself studying at UofT (where its super hard to get a 3.7), I am still not competitive enough to get in!

In terms of financing, im from a middle class family, and 75% of my COA will be loans....just becuase I dont have the marks for Canada, and the money for the US does not mean I'm going to give up on my dream of becoming a dentist. I'll take loans and pay them off, though it'll be an initial struggle. I really wish people wouldn't be so discouraging all the time.
 

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... I really wish people wouldn't be so discouraging all the time.
HuyetKiem had implied that Canada is somehow not "a land of freedom and opportunity." I was just trying to defend your country. Sorry. In future posts I'll try and bash Canada more often. :rolleyes:

I understand that you're taking out a ton of loans to finance your dental education. But please understand that some people can't even get loans (for reasons out of their control). I feel that dental students who would be considered on the lower end of "wealth" still have things pretty good when compared to the majority of people.
 

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Was that a joke? He's from Toronto.

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No, It's not a joke. I'm just an average "working class" Joe from other country with an average GPA (most at community college) and DAT. And Yes, I'd got accepted to few American dental schools and also got my student loans with low interest from the government and banks :thumbup: :thumbup:

Isn't America a land of freedom and opportunity ? :luck: :luck:
 

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HuyetKiem had implied that Canada is somehow not "a land of freedom and opportunity." I was just trying to defend you country. .
No, I didn't mean it. Sorry for misunderstanding.
 

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Yeah, canada and the us are both great countries for freedom and opportunity. Just when people say "freedom and opportunity" I often feel like those words apply the most to people who have absolutely nothing. In that sense I feel canada is pretty good on the "freedom and opportunity" scale.
Does anyone else understand what I'm trying to say here? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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BU is also another school that will give you the boot. I believe the class of 2006, maybe 2005 lost 30 students due to academic failing. Thats 1/3 of the class!

And I'm sure those 30 were easily replaced with advanced standing students in some way

Another crappy thing about boston is the subways stop at night. They don't run 24/7, atleast when I was there
 

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A dentist friend of mine had nothing but negative things to say about BU -- or at least how they treat their students. He said that the school is well known for treating students poorly while they are there and very demanding after they graduate. I get the impression though that the negative vibes surrounding the school come from the fact that it's private and in business to make money -- I just wish it made this fact a little less obvious than other privates in its dealings with students.

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A dentist friend of mine had nothing but negative things to say about BU -- or at least how they treat their students. He said that the school is well known for treating students poorly while they are there and very demanding after they graduate.
I just want to add that I have heard the exact opposite. I've talked to numerous people and they've all said that BU looks after its students moreso than at any other school. They want you to do well, and if they see you falling behind they're very active in trying to get you help. This is a really odd thread - I've never heard so many bad things about BU before. IMO, BU is an awesome school and I'd be proud to go there. :luck:

Oh, and this is sorta unrelated, but BU has some great specialty programs. Their endodontics department in particular is amazing, and has alotta history.
 

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I personally know someone who graduated who Boston U, and who's now doing a 1 year residency at the same hospital in NYC as my brother (who's OMS1). She had nothing but nice things to say about BU. She also described her clinical experience at BU, and it turns out she had more clinical exposure then my bro did (who did his DDS at University of Toronto, Canada’s best). I doubt BU is as bad as some people say it is. I also think that bashing someone else’s school is highly unprofessional.
 

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Delicious,

Sorry I think I took your thread the wrong way. I am proud to be Canadian, and you're right Canada is also the land of opportunity. I guess we Canadians just get defensive sometimes because many US students don't understand that it is really hard to get into dents in Canada, and are often mad that we're taking up their spaces. I totally understand what you're saying. :oops:

I agree with the last poster, putting down other schools is really immature and a foolish way to make yourself feel better. Come on people, we're tomorrrow's doctors.....let's act like it.
 

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Delicious,

Sorry I think I took your thread the wrong way. I am proud to be Canadian, and you're right Canada is also the land of opportunity. I guess we Canadians just get defensive sometimes because many US students don't understand that it is really hard to get into dents in Canada, and are often mad that we're taking up their spaces. I totally understand what you're saying. :oops:

I agree with the last poster, putting down other schools is really immature and a foolish way to make yourself feel better. Come on people, we're tomorrrow's doctors.....let's act like it.
Word up. Yeah, we were talking about different things. I know very well that canadian schools pretty much only look at your GPA, and that it's super-competetive. I also understand that there are way too few dental school spots in canada considering the size of the population. But overall, I feel canada is an amazing country. Education here in america is becoming sooooo expensive, that it's exacerbating a really bad stratified class system. Canada is the true land of freedom and opportunity in my opinion. Now, if you'd only get rid of the monarchy!!! :D
 
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i think the only complaint i would have about BU is the APEX program. I have more than 2 years work experience in a dental office and it seems instead of using the time to study ill be stuck in a dentists office repeating what i did for over 2 years. I know i can always learn something new but i think time in dental school should not be used to spend volunteering at some dentists office. Other than this i dont have many complaints about the school.
 

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You guys make it seem that Im saying that BU is at the level of some sort of Caribbean equivalent dental school....I didnt mean that at all.

My only point is that BU is damn expensive and doesnt offer anything to justify the cost, whereas other expensive schools such as NYU, Tufts can actually justify their costs somewhat. Thats all Im saying.

Think about it...if you are gonna shell out thousands of dollars on a dental education, wouldnt you want one that is more than average??? Where you actually get something out of the 4 years there???

Also to say that BU is only expensive cause its in Boston is only partly true....in my opinion BU is the epitome of for-profit universities. I just got the impression that the school was only after the benjamins and nothing more. Like students dont even have the opportunity to buy their own textbooks.....do you guys realize how much money I saved by having freedom in buying my own textbooks??? By doing things on my own and buying my textbooks online, I save hundreds of dollars per semester...plus there are so many textbooks that I dont buy cause upper year students tell us that the textbook is useless and the professors notes are adequate.

Also, they force their students into buying EXTREMELY overpriced laptops from ONLY THEM....obviously they are making a HUGE profit off of this by forcing the students to buy them, buying them in bulk and marking up the price....but what does that cost the student....like $2500?? (i cant remember)....anyways, I bought my laptop for only $800 on my own....I just think that if the interests of the students were really the priority of BU, they should allow their students the freedome to buy their own things and not only worry about making a profit for themselves....just look at their EXCEL program....what bologne that is!!! cough cough money maker cough cough.

Like I said, if BU is the only school you get into, then go for it. Im sure you'll have a good time and meet some great people. However, Im pretty damn sure that 90% of people are like me and would prefer other schools other than BU if given the chance (unless they are rich).

By the way, if my opinion on BU is deemed "unprofessional" by certain people, than TS cause I really dont care. Im not here to sugarcoat crap or try and make myself "feel better", cause this is a tough and extremely important decision for anyone and one that I can relate to cause i was in the exact position this time last year.

Painting a beautiful, flawless portrait of BU and telling people that everything will be butterflies and roses after graduating is misleading, and in my opinion, unprofessional.
 

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I also think that bashing someone else’s school is highly unprofessional.

I don't believe that the goal of this thread is to bash BU and make fun of those who attend. As this is the PRE-dental forum, I think it is a valuable discussion even if it is entirely based on heresay and unfounded opinion. I for one am glad I found this thread because I had heard a lot of positive things about BU until I talked with my dentist friend about it. Every school is going to graduate dentists with both positive and negative feelings towards their program and it's just as important to hear out the negatives as it is the positives.

At least my friend didn't have as negative opinion of BU as he did of Georgetown Dental (his alma mater)...

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BU may not be the BEST dental school. It's expensive, academics are mediocre, BUT you still become a dentist. So, if it's the only school you get into then it's a great school and you should go for it. If you have other choices, then you should consider those options first. For example, Tufts and Temple which are about the same level are a bit better in terms of education, clinics and cost. NYU is probably around the same level as these just more expensive. I'd say go to NYU though before BU. Personal opinion, we all have our own.
 

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I disagree with you about voicing an opinion on a school if you don't know jack about the school. The only people on this forum who are qualified to respond to this thread constructively are those who either attend BU now, those who have graduated from the school and to some extend those who know someone who attended the school personally. Going to one interview does not qualify a person to constantly bash BU in every thread.

BadVibes, did you even go to BU for your interview? I remember you typed something about Dr. Stoute once, so didn't you have the regional interview at TO? The students who are at BU on SDN spoke positively of the school, and so did that woman I mentioned in my last post. She heavily recommended the school to me, and never mentioned BU being a money school. She even told me that they really care about their students there.

"ANd by the way, I dont hate BU.....its just the last school I would choose out of any other school in the US, but if it were my only acceptence, I would definitely go there" - this is the kind of thing I'm talking about. Have you visited and researched all 50 dental schools in the States, Badvibes, to type an exaggerated statement like this? Personally, I like SDN because I can find valuable and constructive post with reliable information that can help me make sound decisions. I don't want to personally flame you Badvibes, but you keep picking on BU and Columbia every chance you get. You even argue with current Columbia students about their school, even though you haven't stepped one foot inside a classroom there. Perhaps you could tell me where all your info is coming from, and I might take your post on BU and Columbia more seriously. BTW Badvibes I do find your other post very helpful, especially about Temple, it's just your post about BU and Columbia that I don't.

Mackchops said:
I don't believe that the goal of this thread is to bash BU and make fun of those who attend. As this is the PRE-dental forum, I think it is a valuable discussion even if it is entirely based on heresay and unfounded opinion. I for one am glad I found this thread because I had heard a lot of positive things about BU until I talked with my dentist friend about it. Every school is going to graduate dentists with both positive and negative feelings towards their program and it's just as important to hear out the negatives as it is the positives.

At least my friend didn't have as negative opinion of BU as he did of Georgetown Dental (his alma mater)...

-Mack
 

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YOU'RE INBOX IS FULL, clear it out would yah! I've been trying to send you stuff, but keep getting the inbox is full message.

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Noroozi said:
I disagree with you about voicing an opinion on a school if you don't know jack about the school. The only people on this forum who are qualified to respond to this thread constructively are those who either attend BU now, those who have graduated from the school and to some extend those who know someone who attended the school personally. Going to one interview does not qualify a person to constantly bash BU in every thread.

BadVibes, did you even go to BU for your interview? I remember you typed something about Dr. Stoute once, so didn't you have the regional interview at TO? The students who are at BU on SDN spoke positively of the school, and so did that woman I mentioned in my last post. She heavily recommended the school to me, and never mentioned BU being a money school. She even told me that they really care about their students there.

"ANd by the way, I dont hate BU.....its just the last school I would choose out of any other school in the US, but if it were my only acceptence, I would definitely go there" - this is the kind of thing I'm talking about. Have you visited and researched all 50 dental schools in the States, Badvibes, to type an exaggerated statement like this? Personally, I like SDN because I can find valuable and constructive post with reliable information that can help me make sound decisions. I don't want to personally flame you Badvibes, but you keep picking on BU and Columbia every chance you get. You even argue with current Columbia students about their school, even though you haven't stepped one foot inside a classroom there. Perhaps you could tell me where all your info is coming from, and I might take your post on BU and Columbia more seriously. BTW Badvibes I do find your other post very helpful, especially about Temple, it's just your post about BU and Columbia that I don't.
Its true that I did a regional interview in Toronto, but my parents lived in Boston for 10 years, and I visited the school plenty of times during that time cause I initially thought that it was teh school I would eventually end up at. I have talked with one BU grad who was doing a GPR at TEmple and she had confirmed all the negative things I heard about Boston (academic wise....social wise, she said it was awesome!)

Also, I know this is not really a valid point, but since my parents lived there for 10 years and knew I wanted to goto dental school, the unanimous advice from Boston natives from various fields was that Tufts is the superior dental school within Boston....although you will argue that they know nothing about dental schools, I would argue back that if such a reputation is created within a community, than one should ask how that reputation was acheived? I could totally see all the hype about Tufts during my interview there.

About visiting the other 50 dental schools, I would only compare expensive schools with BU, and although I havent visited all the expensive schools in the US, it is well known that each expensive school has something to offer, whereas BU does not.
 

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If BU was that bad, it wouldn't be accredited. NYU is a lot more expensive than BU, though the tuition diff isn't much, NYC is MUCH more expensive to live in than is Boston (although Boston isn't cheap either). After finding out about my BU acceptance I cancelled my NYU interview right away- not that it's a bad school, but because BU is a better fit for me personally. Just because it may not suit some of you, I really do not think you should discourage those of us going to BU! I had a hard time thinking of the finances originally, but after thinking long and hard - it's a definite GO! Since being accepted, I've already had a few hurdles to overcome, and the admin at BU has been nothing but super nice and supportive. I can honestly say that I look forward to working with the faculty there, and am so comforted by the fact that Dr. Shaw is there, she is one AMAZING woman. Since BU is the only school that's accepted me so far, I cannot complain - they're giving me a chance to fulfill my dream that nobody else is willing to do - not even Canada-my own country! :mad:

For those of us going - don't listen to the pessimism of others. We're all going to be dentists, we're going to a great city, a great school, and will be with amazing faculty and classmates. We're gonna have a blast :D ![/QUOTE]

AMEN, CASE CLOSED ;)