Is it better to be a prude

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mulberry said:
I brought it in the past and I'll bring it up again. These 'less than stellar guys' can pull 8ers and 9ers because of their 1) confidence and 2) ability to make a girl laugh. If you have that, you're already over the hump (no pun intended)
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I would imagine that it takes a lot of persistence to overcome a metric fkton of rejections that a less attractive guy pursuing hotties will inevitably face.
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NontradCA said:
Would you ever date a DO?
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Yes. Who wouldn't?

Priapism4tooLong said:
Here's a LEGIT question to the girls. Since your guys are doing pretty well in life doctor/dentist or whatever. Would you ever date someone who works at the mall or retail or something?. TRUTH
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Someone lacking in ambition/drive/spark of brilliance wouldn't work for me. It's not a matter of money really. I once had a lovely thing yell "stop using big words!!" during a break-up and I honestly had to pause to review my sentence to figure out to which word he was referring; I remained puzzled because there weren't any "big words". That won't do.
 
Anastomoses said:
Yes. Who wouldn't?



Someone lacking in ambition/drive/spark of brilliance wouldn't work for me. It's not a matter of money really. I once had a lovely thing yell "stop using big words!!" during a break-up and I honestly had to pause to review my sentence to figure out to which word he was referring; I remained puzzled because there weren't any "big words". That won't do.
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To be fair outside of medicine my vocab is horrid. Like really really bad.
 
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Anastomoses said:
Yes. Who wouldn't?



Someone lacking in ambition/drive/spark of brilliance wouldn't work for me. It's not a matter of money really. I once had a lovely thing yell "stop using big words!!" during a break-up and I honestly had to pause to review my sentence to figure out to which word he was referring; I remained puzzled because there weren't any "big words". That won't do.
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Like read through all my posts, you will not find one confusing word. If you do then it's probably some typo.


this is me (joey)

 
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Priapism4tooLong said:
Here's a LEGIT question to the girls. Since your guys are doing pretty well in life doctor/dentist or whatever. Would you ever date someone who works at the mall or retail or something?. TRUTH
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It's pretty clear that women are attracted to men that are going places.

Working at the mall for a long time is on the lower end of our social hierarchy.

With that said, there's plenty of women out there - so that guy can do just fine.

The higher the socioeconomic class of the women, the more she typically expects. Working at the mall is probably seen as ambitious to a small percentage of women in the world.
 
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Arkangeloid said:
I would imagine that it takes a lot of persistence to overcome a metric fkton of rejections that a less attractive guy pursuing hotties will inevitably face.
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Well everything else in life is super easy and doesnt take persistence so this is an aberration.
 
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Arkangeloid said:
I would imagine that it takes a lot of persistence to overcome a metric fkton of rejections that a less attractive guy pursuing hotties will inevitably face.
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You're right, but the fact is being rejected also means you gained the initial confidence to start a conversation. That's step one and one step further from where you were before. It's an ascending battle, fellow warrior. You will succeed.
 
@JackShephard said:
It's pretty clear that women are attracted to men that are going places.

Working at the mall for a long time is on the lower end of our social hierarchy.

With that said, there's plenty of women out there - so that guy can do just fine.

The higher the socioeconomic class of the women, the more she typically expects. Working at the mall is probably seen as ambitious to a small percentage of women in the world.
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Id also add that women of higher socioeconomic stature are also attracted to blue collar types.
 
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NontradCA said:
Id also add that women of higher socioeconomic stature are also attracted to blue collar types.
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I'm no woman but I don't agree with this. Women might enjoy the presence of a blue-collar type because they're funny and usually less uptight but for the long run my bet is on the doctor or lawyer.
 
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mulberry said:
I'm no woman but I don't agree with this. Women might enjoy the presence of a blue-collar type because they're funny and usually less uptight but for the long run my bet is on the doctor or lawyer.
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I'm quite sure that every cola commercial from the 1990s taught me that professional working women prefer blue collar laborers.
 
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Wordead said:
I am much larger but even funnier so I still pull 8s and 9s.
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I can almost feel the subtle jab. What I brought up earlier might not work for everyone but for the majority, it's a good place to start. I don't feel guilty or ashamed to admit I have learned from rejection.
 
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Arkangeloid said:
I would imagine that it takes a lot of persistence to overcome a metric fkton of rejections that a less attractive guy pursuing hotties will inevitably face.
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And you would be wrong in that regard. Women are not as shallow as you think they may be.
 
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mulberry said:
I can almost feel the subtle jab. What I brought up earlier might not work for everyone but for the majority, it's a good place to start. I don't feel guilty or ashamed to admit I have learned from rejection.
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I'm not really sure what youre talking about. If you mean being funny works for guys, I completely agree. No jab at you for whatever.
 
Anastomoses said:
Yes. Who wouldn't?
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I would date a DO too. Just think of all those free massages.

mulberry said:
I'm no woman but I don't agree with this. Women might enjoy the presence of a blue-collar type because they're funny and usually less uptight but for the long run my bet is on the doctor or lawyer.
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lol, I don't know why people still think law is a prestigious profession.
 
TheWeeIceMan said:
lol, I don't know why people still think law is a prestigious profession.
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It wasn't meant to be prestigious in the context. I was referring to white collar professionals.
Also, it isn't a simple walk in the park to become a lawyer. They might not have as rigorous training as physicians but they're still hard working individuals.
 
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DermViser said:
And you would be wrong in that regard. Women are not as shallow as you think they may be.
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the real question is why are these "less attractive guys" more shallow but women wouldn't be? The irony of this is lost on so many men that it baffles me. Why don't you go for girls with "personality" the ones that are less attractive like you - be deep n stuff?
 
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Anastomoses said:
the real question is why are these "less attractive guys" more shallow but women wouldn't be? The irony of this is lost on so many men that it baffles me. Why don't you go for girls with "personality" the ones that are less attractive like you - be deep n stuff?
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Women (on average) tend to be very self-critical and negative already when it comes to their looks, weight, etc. Look at the percentage of women with eating disorders.
Thus, the last thing they want is to choose someone to have a meaningful relationship on such superficial criteria. Women (average) tend to go towards wanting meaningful relationships early on, not just someone to go straight to bed with.
 
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Anastomoses said:
the real question is why are these "less attractive guys" more shallow but women wouldn't be? The irony of this is lost on so many men that it baffles me. Why don't you go for girls with "personality" the ones that are less attractive like you - be deep n stuff?
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Wait, just re-read your post. You're surprise that "less attractive guys" are infatuated by beautiful women?
 
DermViser said:
Women (on average) tend to be very self-critical and negative already when it comes to their looks, weight, etc. Look at the percentage of women with eating disorders.
Thus, the last thing they want is to choose someone to have a meaningful relationship on such superficial criteria. Women (average) tend to go towards wanting meaningful relationships early on, not just someone to go straight to bed with.
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I completely agree with your assessment of a great number of women. I've been taken aback with the number of girls I know who want a less attractive partner as some kind of leverage in the relationship and as a safety factor. I even know girls who will actively sabotage the partner's looks to help insure he sticks around???

Ironically I've never noticed any kind of correlation between less attractive men and having a deeper, more considerate personality. In fact, as you ask below...I would guess less attractive guys are so stuck on trying to obtain some worth by finally scoring that "9" that they are perhaps more superficial than most.

DermViser said:
Wait, just re-read your post. You're surprise that "less attractive guys" are infatuated by beautiful women?
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Yeah, given they know what it's like to be ignored for their ugliness or fatness or whatever and they seem to feel resentment that beautiful women disregard their charm, wit, and "substance" - why aren't they learning from that to "look deeper"?

This is precisely why I have little to no sympathy for that group. Their overentitlement is palpably repulsive.
 
Anastomoses said:
I completely agree with your assessment of a great number of women. I've been taken aback with the number of girls I know who want a less attractive partner as some kind of leverage in the relationship and as a safety factor. I even know girls who will actively sabotage the partner's looks to help insure he sticks around???

Ironically I've never noticed any kind of correlation between less attractive men and having a deeper, more considerate personality. In fact, as you ask below...I would guess less attractive guys are so stuck on trying to obtain some worth by finally scoring that "9" that they are perhaps more superficial than most.



Yeah, given they know what it's like to be ignored for their ugliness or fatness or whatever and they seem to feel resentment that beautiful women disregard their charm, wit, and "substance" - why aren't they learning from that to "look deeper"?

This is precisely why I have little to no sympathy for that group. Their overentitlement is palpably repulsive.
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This is some crazy ass reverse psychology,

"why do you like them cuz you know they dont like you and you know your worth it, but you cant understand that they are superficial and you like them just for being pretty so that makes you superficial as well. "

lol i actually have never thought about it this way.
 
Anastomoses said:
I completely agree with your assessment of a great number of women. I've been taken aback with the number of girls I know who want a less attractive partner as some kind of leverage in the relationship and as a safety factor. I even know girls who will actively sabotage the partner's looks to help insure he sticks around???

Ironically I've never noticed any kind of correlation between less attractive men and having a deeper, more considerate personality. In fact, as you ask below...I would guess less attractive guys are so stuck on trying to obtain some worth by finally scoring that "9" that they are perhaps more superficial than most.



Yeah, given they know what it's like to be ignored for their ugliness or fatness or whatever and they seem to feel resentment that beautiful women disregard their charm, wit, and "substance" - why aren't they learning from that to "look deeper"?

This is precisely why I have little to no sympathy for that group. Their overentitlement is palpably repulsive.
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I used to think I could change the way other people operated. When I relinquished control to the universe and let go of my judgements, life got much easier. :) People are who they are. Just find the ones who you like, and think are kinda sexy, who like you back, and think you're kinda sexy.
 
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Priapism4tooLong said:
This is some crazy ass reverse psychology,

"why do you like them cuz you know they dont like you and you know your worth it, but you cant understand that they are superficial and you like them just for being pretty so that makes you superficial as well. "

lol i actually have never thought about it this way.
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I call it "woman logic".
 
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Anastomoses said:
I would guess less attractive guys are so stuck on trying to obtain some worth by finally scoring that "9" that they are perhaps more superficial than most.
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Firstly, let's face it:
1. Looks count for more in a Male's drives than for a Female's (usually).
2. Women don't always achieve orgasm during sex (understatement of the year)
3. It's less of a chore for women to find someone to sleep with (allowing them to look past looks quicker)

Secondly, it's not just the less attractive guys. All guys try to score 9s and 10s, only to eventually learn that substance counts for a great deal.

It takes much longer for teh fatties cause of two main reasons:

1. You want what you can't get/work too hard to get.
2. They don't land the 9s consistently for awhile, if ever, thus delaying that knowledge.
 
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wait i take that back, he said i dont know women who are as strongly opinionated as Anastamoses. So he's actually right, she seems pretty opinionated. That @Arkangeloid is one smart cookie.
 
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Brain Bucket said:
Firstly, let's face it:
1. Looks count for more in a Male's drives than for a Female's (usually).
2. Women don't always achieve orgasm during sex (understatement of the year)
3. It's less of a chore for women to find someone to sleep with (allowing them to look past looks quicker)

Secondly, it's not just the less attractive guys. All guys try to score 9s and 10s, only to eventually learn that substance counts for a great deal.

It takes much longer for teh fatties cause of two main reasons:

1. You want what you can't get/work too hard to get.
2. They don't land the 9s consistently for awhile, if ever, thus delaying that knowledge.
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what the hell does that have to do with your point LOL?
 
Anastomoses said:
Yeah, given they know what it's like to be ignored for their ugliness or fatness or whatever and they seem to feel resentment that beautiful women disregard their charm, wit, and "substance" - why aren't they learning from that to "look deeper"?

This is precisely why I have little to no sympathy for that group. Their overentitlement is palpably repulsive.
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You truly are a major ****.
 
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Anastomoses said:
Ironically I've never noticed any kind of correlation between less attractive men and having a deeper, more considerate personality.
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You probably scared them off by checking their mucous membranes. Beautiful isn't worth it if it is accompanied by crazy.
 
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Threads like these pop up every few months.

The funniest part about them? Everyone feels they have the opposite sex completely figured out.
 
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@JackShephard said:
Threads like these pop up every few months.

The funniest part about them? Everyone feels they have the opposite sex completely figured out.
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People are more alike than different. You might not have everyone figured out, but you can usually count on a few constants.
 
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