Is it Fair???

[sallyubc]

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Hi Everybody,

I just don't understand , if a school accept a student , that means the school is interested in this student but then if he/she is on the waiting list and doesn't get a seat... they have to reapply and do the whole process again.... do you think this is fair??


🙁 😕

 

[LestatZinnie]

nothing is fair in the world. fairness is an illusion, and nothing is guaranteed in this world. you can get 4.0 gpa, have a Ph.d, volunteer in Africa, and still not get in dental school. Why is it unfair that schools waitlist students anyway? what makes you think that you deserve the spot more than someone who is already accepted? everybody in this world thinks that they deserve 'it', be it money, good looks, or admission to professional school, and cries foul when they don't get 'it'. It's ridiculous. The admission game is something we all have or had to play, and that in itself is pretty fair already.

btw, if you are waitlisted it's no big deal- bunch of people i know got in waitlist be it med or dental schools this year.

 

[LestatZinnie]

by the way.....are you from University of British Columbia?

I am ^_^

 

[savvysearch]

If I understand your question correctly, you mean that one is accepted to a school and waitlisted at another, and he wants to go to the waitlisted school, so he risks it and gives up his acceptance and the waitlisted school doesnt accept him, he has to reapply again. I think that he should have sent an acceptance fee to the school that accepted him instead of risking it on the waitlisted school. Its better to be safe and sacrifice the thousand dollars if he really wanted to go to the waitlisted school. But one should only hope but not expected to be accepted off the waitlist.


If you mean that a school accepts him and so he declines all other offers and then the school that accepts him decides to put him on the waitlist and then reject him, no that is not fair. In that case, I would call the school and complain and tell them that their behavior is unacceptable and explain to them the situation on how I were screwed. .

 

[scandalouslj]

I think what you are saying is that you if you are accpeted and put on a waitlist, but then dont get in. I think this is totally fair as if you are put on a waitlist then there are people "more appropriate" for that school. If those people dont get in then you are next, you are in no way accepted of put on a waitlist. Obviously if you dont get a seat then you have to go through the process again, becuase once again there might be people more appropriate for that school. AKA our stats, interview etc might not have been good enough. I apologize if that seems a little harsh, but thats the way it is.

 

[drPheta]

Fair?

If you think of it in terms of Darwinism...yes it is. The ad-coms consider what they think is strong, reputable, and capable. They don't hold to their feelings and emotions about a decision (or at least shouldn't).

Perhaps those admitted played the game well, they prepared themselves beforehand, or they simply hit a stroke of good luck. Either way, they did what they had to and said what they had to for their acceptance.

Now, if you're saying "so I screwed up this year...BUT I learned from my mistakes and look at me now!"
Think about the ones who have not screwed up, learned from others' mistakes, and took the time and effort to prove they're everything the dental society wants them to be.

I was in the same position as you...and used to be bitter (only towards one school though). I messed up my entire sophomore year...BAD. But I bounced back, hit the ground running, and passed everyone who pulled away from me. 1st time I applied...I got only one interview. ONE!

Round 2!
I applied again...and only to schools that I felt fit me. I get many more interviews...less rejections, and some waitlists. No acceptances yet. On top of that...I'm a New Jersey resident, and an alumn of the Ad-Com's alma mater. However, they want to see more proof of my abilities - delay my interview, and fill up spots before I can even show them what I am. Rejection. "Peter, try again next year...you'll be in for sure. It's just we filled up before your interview, and we can't offer any more acceptances. BLAH BLAH BLAH!"

Was that fair? For a while I thought "HELL NO!" But I got over myself, and stepped back. I fooged up major in the past, and it's understandeable that UMDNJ wants to make sure I have the potential before inviting me to the interview.

However, other schools saw my potential, and I played my cards right. I took my strengths and resources and pooled them to those willing to play with me.

So is it fair? It depends on how you look at things. Different schools have different wants and needs. Just like girls (and boys). We all have the ideal model...standards, if you will. Two girls could be diggin you...and girl 1 is super hot, fun, caring, supportive, and smart, but she once screwed up with her ex in some way...and you know about it. She's learned her lesson, and will never do it again. Girl 2 is the same, but she never screwed up.

Girl 1 approached you first, and you guys went on a date. Girl 2 comes into the picture, and your fate is based on what you feel is important. Do you waitlist girl 1 or do you accept her? What's fair? What do YOU want?

That's pretty much along the same lines of the ad-coms. Hmmmm...does this make sense? I'm kinda tired from a long day.

 

[ItsGavinC]

I think it is extremely fair, especially given the way you worded your question. The point, in the way you put it, is that waitlisted people are NOT accepted by the school. So, if not pulled from the waitlist (and not accepted elsewhere) they should apply again just like everybody else who was not accepted. Waitlist does not equal acceptance until you are notified.

 

[sallyubc]

Hi all,

Thanks everybody for expressing your opinion whether it was negative (lestatzinnie) or positive and constructive (dr pheta)...
I am definitly not gonna give up... but to clarify why I asked this questions is, I was told that I was placed on the waiting list not because am not good enough or my grades are not good enough but because I was late in the cycle which i know partly was my mistake and the other part was the organization AADSAS ( loosing documents)... Just I felt it is not fair for universities to put students on hold and not even offering them a seat for the year after if they are competitive...it is just a thought!!!

By the way, Lestazinnie, being on the waiting list is better than being rejected so you should not say it is not a big deal...but actually I think it is a big achievement for all the people who got that far!!!

Good luck everybody

 

[LestatZinnie]

hi sallyubc

sorry for the misunderstanding when i said it's no big deal to be on waitlist, i meant that it's not the end of the world to be on waitlist. i DID NOT mean that being on waitlist is nothing worth mentioning, which seems to be your interpretation. in my opinion, as long as you are waitlisted it is almost guaranteed that you'll get in on second try.

goodluck to you as well!