Is it okay to apply at the end of June?

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Khloe L.

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Hi guys!
I'm a little bit worried about having to apply at the end of June. My plan is to get everything ready by the beginning of June but I have my DAT registered at June 3 and I really don't want to send my application before my DAT scores are in (since my sGPA ~ 3.2/ cGPA ~3.5). Do you think that I'm not too late if I submit everything by the end of June? Do you think that I have a chance this cycle (volunteer hours ~ 600 / shadowing ~ 100)?

+) Also, how do you know which schools have supplemental essays? Do I just have to go check all of their websites?
Thanks!

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I would submit your app as soon as possible.

Are you saying if your DAT is low you won’t apply? Either way personally I would send my application ASAP because they will see all your DAT attempts no matter what. Plus having an app in already will pressure you to do well on your test.

But to answer your question directly, end of June is still very early. Peak is like mid August
 
If you are taking your DAT on June 3, you can probably submit everything else a week later, no?
 
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Here was my timeline if this helps you at all: I took the DAT 6/2/2018, it was "accepted" on my AADSAS application on 6/14/2018. Verification of transcripts happened 6/17/2018. None of that stopped me from getting multiple interviews and multiple acceptances. I do understand that your sGPA is not fantastic, but I've seen a handful of people post similar GPAs on here this cycle who got in! In short, I don't think you need to send in your app before the DAT (focus on killing the DAT!!), but you should have most stuff ready. After my DAT, I started to fill out the application with all of my info, but LOR and personal statement were already done/received. I wish I would have filled out all the activities and experiences earlier (if you can do this, do it!), but I just didn't have the time since I had just started studying for the DAT three weeks before I took it, which is when the application had its "soft opening." Good luck on the DAT!
 
We have nearly identical GPAs. Submitted my apps in July. Received two pre-December interviews and three post-December interviews. You're fine. Just do well on the DAT and try not to botch any interviews like I did, lol. Good luck!
 
I really doubt that they'd filter you out without seeing your DAT if that's what you're worried about. Everyone pretty much agrees that applying as early as possible can only help you, and it's one of the only things in the application cycle you can directly control. End of June is still relatively early, sure, but is there any actual argument against turning it in the second you're capable of finishing filling it out? The sooner it's in, the sooner your transcripts get verified and everything.
 
Thanks guys! So are you guys saying that it is better to send my application and then submit my DAT score afterwards? I thought I had to wait until everything was ready lol. And I actually have a DAT score of 19 (Science:19, PAT:20) and I'm just retaking it on June to have a 22+. You guys don't think that the schools will filter me out by seeing the DAT score of 19?
 
That's exactly what we're saying, you can submit without any DAT score at all if you've never taken it before, you just tell them when you're scheduled to take it. They'll see your DAT score of 19 no matter what, but that's the average accepted DAT, so why would they filter you out? SDN has a high-score bias because high scorers want to show off and low scorers don't, but 16s-18s get accepted every year. Just inform every school that you have a retake planned (if it's not part of AADSAS somewhere, email their admissions offices directly, I don't remember specifically if it's on there). Nobody who isn't actually on an adcom can tell you what their exact protocol is, but since we know that applicants are allowed to submit without a score and that dental schools encourage you to send them updates to your application throughout the cycle, we can only assume they'll either look at a scoreless applicants and say they'll interview them if their score comes in higher than x, or that they won't look at them at all until the score gets in. Since you already scored the accepted average, you have absolutely nothing to lose applying ASAP, you have a really good shot at getting some interviews already, your GPA isn't that low. Schools that like your whole app might invite you right away. Others might hold off judgment knowing you're retaking, if you send them a 22, 23, 24 in a few weeks, they certainly will take another look.

Regarding supplemental essays, yes, you just have to go to every single school's website and find the supplemental application info. It's a pain in the butt. Some schools want essays, some literally just want another $100 check sent in the mail.

One last thing, I said your GPA isn't that low, but it is kinda low. You should almost certainly apply to at least 10ish schools if you want a decent chance of getting accepted. There are varying opinions on this but if I remember right the stats show that fewer than that with average stats and there's a pretty decent chance of no acceptances. Having to reapply means you pay application fees and buy flights and hotels again, losing 1 year of $100000+ income, plus paying higher tuition for your whole education since it rises ever year. It's absolute worth another $500 right now to increase your overall chance of acceptance this year. Get a credit card if you have to. Also, make sure you know whether or not every school you apply to tends to accept students from your state and probably avoid entirely the schools that take very few OOS applicants like UNC, UConn, etc. If you do score really high on the DAT and one of those is your dream school, you can add them later but I'd argue it's not worth the fee when a 19 isn't high enough for one of 3 or 4 highly competed OOS seats.
 
That's exactly what we're saying, you can submit without any DAT score at all if you've never taken it before, you just tell them when you're scheduled to take it. They'll see your DAT score of 19 no matter what, but that's the average accepted DAT, so why would they filter you out? SDN has a high-score bias because high scorers want to show off and low scorers don't, but 16s-18s get accepted every year. Just inform every school that you have a retake planned (if it's not part of AADSAS somewhere, email their admissions offices directly, I don't remember specifically if it's on there). Nobody who isn't actually on an adcom can tell you what their exact protocol is, but since we know that applicants are allowed to submit without a score and that dental schools encourage you to send them updates to your application throughout the cycle, we can only assume they'll either look at a scoreless applicants and say they'll interview them if their score comes in higher than x, or that they won't look at them at all until the score gets in. Since you already scored the accepted average, you have absolutely nothing to lose applying ASAP, you have a really good shot at getting some interviews already, your GPA isn't that low. Schools that like your whole app might invite you right away. Others might hold off judgment knowing you're retaking, if you send them a 22, 23, 24 in a few weeks, they certainly will take another look.

Regarding supplemental essays, yes, you just have to go to every single school's website and find the supplemental application info. It's a pain in the butt. Some schools want essays, some literally just want another $100 check sent in the mail.

One last thing, I said your GPA isn't that low, but it is kinda low. You should almost certainly apply to at least 10ish schools if you want a decent chance of getting accepted. There are varying opinions on this but if I remember right the stats show that fewer than that with average stats and there's a pretty decent chance of no acceptances. Having to reapply means you pay application fees and buy flights and hotels again, losing 1 year of $100000+ income, plus paying higher tuition for your whole education since it rises ever year. It's absolute worth another $500 right now to increase your overall chance of acceptance this year. Get a credit card if you have to. Also, make sure you know whether or not every school you apply to tends to accept students from your state and probably avoid entirely the schools that take very few OOS applicants like UNC, UConn, etc. If you do score really high on the DAT and one of those is your dream school, you can add them later but I'd argue it's not worth the fee when a 19 isn't high enough for one of 3 or 4 highly competed OOS seats.

Thank you for your advice! It helped me a lot 🙂 and yes I'm planning to apply to 20ish schools so hopefully, I'll get into at least one. Thanks again!
 
Thank you for your advice! It helped me a lot 🙂 and yes I'm planning to apply to 20ish schools so hopefully, I'll get into at least one. Thanks again!
when you complete the DAT, you will be able to get a printout of your unofficial scores
fax/email this to the schools that you are applying to, and some of them may start to review you right away (they will check your official scores when they come in to make sure people don't alter their unofficial scoresheet)
 
when you complete the DAT, you will be able to get a printout of your unofficial scores
fax/email this to the schools that you are applying to, and some of them may start to review you right away (they will check your official scores when they come in to make sure people don't alter their unofficial scoresheet)
Thank you!! I'm glad that you told me this!
 
Thank you!! I'm glad that you told me this!
to confirm what was said earlier, do not wait to apply, the transcript verification takes a while, so your transcripts and DAT may be verified about the same time if you take the DAT June 3
oh, wait, you probably don't want to be filling out aadsas in the last few weeks you are preparing for the june 3 DAT
use your best judgement, I guess...
 
to confirm what was said earlier, do not wait to apply, the transcript verification takes a while, so your transcripts and DAT may be verified about the same time if you take the DAT June 3
oh, wait, you probably don't want to be filling out aadsas in the last few weeks you are preparing for the june 3 DAT
use your best judgement, I guess...
How long does it take to fill out the aadsas?
 
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