Is it time to unify both degree names, yet?

[Dr.TurkandJD]

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This thread is giving me an headache.

YOU DON'T GET A DO OR MD DEGREE. The acronym is not something you are issued. Your diploma says doctor of medicine or doctor of osteopathic medicine. That is the degree you get.

Putting a DO or MD after your name is based on the laws in your state. That is it. It's a state law. Currently in every state those who are licensed using COMLEX after graduating from a school that grants a doctorate in osteopathic medicine use DO to signify their licensed status, and those who attend any other type of medical school and are licensed using the USMLE use MD.

AGAIN THIS IS STATE LAW. Holy crap there are so many premeds in this thread going "the AOA doesn't want to give out the MD instead of the DO" which is just a )(&**&)*&)()*&(ing incoherent statement.

By your logic, a student of an osteopathic medical school can take the USMLE, get licensed using the USMLE and obtain an MD? That makes 0 sense. In reality, Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine and Doctor of Medicine is more or less the same. Different personalities, different philosophies, but overall goal is the same. DO's know what MD's do, plus OMM.

State laws can be lobbied against and overturned. The AOA doesn't want that. Seems like you are an MD student that just want his title.

 

[Textbookversion]

By your logic, a student of an osteopathic medical school can take the USMLE, get licensed using the USMLE and obtain an MD? That makes 0 sense. In reality, Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine and Doctor of Medicine is more or less the same. Different personalities, different philosophies, but overall goal is the same. DO's know what MD's do, plus OMM.

State laws can be lobbied against and overturned. The AOA doesn't want that. Seems like you are an MD student that just want his title.

Sigh. Wow. Reading comprehension. It's not "by my logic" I even showed you an example of one of the state laws in my original post in this thread. And no, a graduate of a school that grants a doctor of osteopathic medicine degree can't get licensed to display MD after their name because that is how the state laws are written.

Yes, obviously the degrees mean the same thing. Yes, obviously it's silly we all have different letters floating around.

My point was, and apparently it's flying waaaaaay over the premed crowd's collective head, is that the MD AND DO THING IS BASED EXCLUSIVELY ON STATE LICENSING LAWS, IT DOES NOT COME ON YOUR DIPLOMA K THX BYE.

I think the state laws should change to let everyone put MD after their name (and keep putting DO if they want as well). I'm not the enemy here. I'm just an advocate who is not stupid enough to get confused about the mechanics of how all this works.

I mean sorry to get snippy but I've explained it in like 4 or 5 posts and the conversation just keeps going on without anyone really GETTING IT.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Sigh. Wow. Reading comprehension. It's not "by my logic" I even showed you one of the state laws. And no, a graduate of a school that grants a doctor of osteopathic medicine degree can't get licensed to display MD after their name because that is how the state laws are written.

Yes, obviously the degrees mean the same thing. Yes, obviously it's silly we all have different letters floating around.

My point was, and apparently it's flying waaaaaay over the premed crowd's collective head, is that the MD AND DO THING IS BASED EXCLUSIVELY ON STATE LICENSING LAWS, IT DOES NOT COME ON YOUR DIPLOMA K THX BYE.

I think the state laws should change to let everyone put MD after their name (and keep putting DO if they want as well). I'm not the enemy here. I'm just an advocate who is not stupid enough to get confused about the mechanics of how all this works.

I mean sorry to get snippy but I've explained it in like 4 or 5 posts and the conversation just keeps going on without anyone really GETTING IT.

It's because your attitude is firstly static and more or less tangential. Also the general populous doesnt want the same initials as much as having the same degree of medicine. Likewise you seem to contradict yourself by then claiming that the difference shouldn't exist.
I understand your point is regarding the initials. But that's not the point of the conversation in whole. It's encompassing the issue of having just one degree, doctor of medicine, which the OP and everyone else is short handing as MD.

 

[sinombre]

This thread is giving me an headache.

YOU DON'T GET A DO OR MD DEGREE. The acronym is not something you are issued. Your diploma says doctor of medicine or doctor of osteopathic medicine. That is the degree you get.

Putting a DO or MD after your name is based on the laws in your state. That is it. It's a state law. Currently in every state those who are licensed using COMLEX after graduating from a school that grants a doctorate in osteopathic medicine use DO to signify their licensed status, and those who attend any other type of medical school and are licensed using the USMLE use MD.

AGAIN THIS IS STATE LAW. Holy crap there are so many premeds in this thread going "the AOA doesn't want to give out the MD instead of the DO" which is just a )(&**&)*&)()*&(ing incoherent statement.

Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine

 

[Dr.TurkandJD]

Sigh. Wow. Reading comprehension. It's not "by my logic" I even showed you an example of one of the state laws in my original post in this thread. And no, a graduate of a school that grants a doctor of osteopathic medicine degree can't get licensed to display MD after their name because that is how the state laws are written.

Yes, obviously the degrees mean the same thing. Yes, obviously it's silly we all have different letters floating around.

My point was, and apparently it's flying waaaaaay over the premed crowd's collective head, is that the MD AND DO THING IS BASED EXCLUSIVELY ON STATE LICENSING LAWS, IT DOES NOT COME ON YOUR DIPLOMA K THX BYE.

I think the state laws should change to let everyone put MD after their name (and keep putting DO if they want as well). I'm not the enemy here. I'm just an advocate who is not stupid enough to get confused about the mechanics of how all this works.

I mean sorry to get snippy but I've explained it in like 4 or 5 posts and the conversation just keeps going on without anyone really GETTING IT.

I agree with you. However, if the AOA or AMA really wanted to get a unified degree, I am sure they can change the state legislation. That will not happen for a LOONG time.

 

[Textbookversion]

Really?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_of_Medicine

Yes, really. I'll take this as an admission that you've never seen a diploma from a graduate of a medical school. Why don't you take 3 seconds and google it. MD is a legal designation for someone who is licensed to practice medicine in a state. People have all kinds of degrees and still use the MD designation in the U.S. As I explained about ten times, people have degrees like MBBS and MBBCH and not an "MD" (no diploma hanging around that says doctor of medicine), but still use MD to designate their licensed status. That's a nice wikipedia article but it's targeted at explaining the concept at an international level, not in the context we are talking about here.

 

[Textbookversion]

It's because your attitude is firstly static and more or less tangential. Also the general populous doesnt want the same initials as much as having the same degree of medicine. Likewise you seem to contradict yourself by then claiming that the difference shouldn't exist.
I understand your point is regarding the initials. But that's not the point of the conversation in whole. It's encompassing the issue of having just one degree, doctor of medicine, which the OP and everyone else is short handing as MD.

The general public doesn't give a flying &!@# either way. If you could put MD on your business card/sign they'd be none the wiser about the osteopathy thing, not that they are much the wiser to begin with.

 

[sinombre]

Yes, really. I'll take this as an admission that you've never seen a diploma from a graduate of a medical school. Why don't you take 3 seconds and google it. MD is a legal designation for someone who is licensed to practice medicine in a state. People have all kinds of degrees and still use the MD designation in the U.S. As I explained about ten times, people have degrees like MBBS and MBBCH and not an "MD (no diploma hanging around that says doctor of medicine)", but still use MD to designate their licensed status. That's a nice wikipedia article but it's targeted at explaining the concept at an international level, not in the context we are talking about here.

Oh, okay. Make sure you let Columbia know that they weren't the first institution in the US to grant an MD degree.

From their website:

"One early manifestation of the institution's lofty goals was the establishment in 1767 of the first American medical school to grant the M.D. degree."

http://www.columbia.edu/content/history.html

Even if this is a misnomer (and I'm not sure it is), it's so common that it basically doesn't matter.

 

[Textbookversion]

Oh, okay. Make sure you let Columbia know that they weren't the first institution in the US to grant an MD degree.

From their website:

"One early manifestation of the institution's lofty goals was the establishment in 1767 of the first American medical school to grant the M.D. degree."

http://www.columbia.edu/content/history.html

Even if this is a misnomer (and I'm not sure it is), it's so common that it basically doesn't matter.

This is clearly over a lot of your heads. Yes, MD is the shorthand used to represent doctor of medicine. It's also a legal designation for someone licensed to practice medicine, which includes a number of people without the verbatim degree "doctor of medicine." There is no reason that the shorthand MD couldn't also represent "doctor of osteopathic medicine" just like it represents the "bachelor of medicine, bachelor of surgery" degree. The gatekeeper to using MD as shorthand for Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine is a given state's laws on licensing.

The AOA could get the department of education to let them put "doctor of medicine" on their diplomas and yet their graduates still wouldn't be able to put MD after their name, they'd have to put DO (at least how the laws are now). If you can understand that last sentence, you'll understand my point.

 

[sinombre]

This is clearly over a lot of your heads. Yes, MD is the shorthand used to represent doctor of medicine. It's also a legal designation for someone licensed to practice medicine, which includes a number of people without the verbatim degree "doctor of medicine." There is no reason that the shorthand MD couldn't also represent "doctor of osteopathic medicine" just like it represents the "bachelor of medicine, bachelor of surgery" degree. The gatekeeper to using MD as shorthand for Doctor of Osteopathic Medicine is a given state's laws on licensing.

The AOA could get the department of education to let them put "doctor of medicine" on their diplomas and yet their graduates still wouldn't be able to put MD after their name, they'd have to put DO (at least how the laws are now). If you can understand that last sentence, you'll understand my point.

I understand your point. But the annoyingly bolded sentence a few posts back was incorrect. You can get an M.D. or a D.O. degree.

 

[Dr.TurkandJD]

What if logistically, a DO has to fill out the application, the options for suffix are; Mr, Ms, Mrs, JD, MD, DDS, DVM.

Is it wrong for a DO to choose MD? Or should they choose just Mr?

Just want your opinions.

 

[DrBumblebee]

Yes, really. I'll take this as an admission that you've never seen a diploma from a graduate of a medical school. Why don't you take 3 seconds and google it. MD is a legal designation for someone who is licensed to practice medicine in a state. People have all kinds of degrees and still use the MD designation in the U.S. As I explained about ten times, people have degrees like MBBS and MBBCH and not an MD, but still use MD to designate their licensed status. That's a nice wikipedia article but it's targeted at explaining the concept at an international level, not in the context we are talking about here.

It's because a foreign medical school graduate should apply and get his/her diploma equivalance to an MD diploma via ECFMG dum dum.

State licensure, on the other hand, which you're talking all about, is something else, a step later in the game. It happens either during your residency/internship year or when you decided to move and work in that particular state after you've been an attending physician.

In the former case, you apply to the state for licensure using your MD or DO school diploma soon after you've graduated from medical school, before started working as a poor resident/intern.

A foreign medical school graduate, on the other hand, cannot use his/her original diploma. Instead, he/she applies to ECFMG online with his/her original foreign medical school diploma, gets a certificate of equivalence in a few days telling that his/her diploma is equivalent to an MD school's diploma in the US, and then uses this certificate to apply for state licensure.

Without state licensure, nobody can work as a "legal" physician in that state.

 

[Textbookversion]

I understand your point. But the annoyingly bolded sentence a few posts back was incorrect. You can get an M.D. or a D.O. degree.

No. They are different things legally. I give up. Think what you want ladies. Or look up your state laws on licensing and educate yourselves w/e.

 

[Ost3oclast]

What if logistically, a DO has to fill out the application, the options for suffix are; Mr, Ms, Mrs, JD, MD, DDS, DVM.

Is it wrong for a DO to choose MD? Or should they choose just Mr?

Just want your opinions.

I've actually wondered this. I had to fill out an application recently and when it asked about future education it didnt list DO, just MD....I just left it blank.

 

[tc4523]

I think if you choose to apply for DO schools, most if not all of them promote the philosophy of osteopathic medicine, then you should be proud of your DO education and degree. Even though in practice the difference between a MD and DO physician is becoming less obvious, I don't think it's a valid reason to unify both degree names. Intrinsic to a DO degree is the philosophy of osteopathic medicine, so I think that's a reason to keep it a distinct degree name. If you don't believe in osteopathic medicine and apply to DO schools only as a backup option, then that's wrong IMO.

 

[Bacchus]

What if logistically, a DO has to fill out the application, the options for suffix are; Mr, Ms, Mrs, JD, MD, DDS, DVM.

Is it wrong for a DO to choose MD? Or should they choose just Mr?

Just want your opinions.

You cannot advertise yourself as an MD in most if not all states as a DO. It is fraud. You'd leave it blank.

 

[sliceofbread136]

I didn't screw up my first year, and I'm already in school thx premed. Still coming across as a dick. Totally missed the point as well.

Ya, HE'S the dick 🙄

 

[MD22412]

how about to be fair we use the first letter from md and the first letter from do and then combine them to make a new degree!
😛

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dm

 

[sinombre]

dm

MDO, obvi.

 

[DrBumblebee]

I think if you choose to apply for DO schools, most if not all of them promote the philosophy of osteopathic medicine, then you should be proud of your DO education and degree. Even though in practice the difference between a MD and DO physician is becoming less obvious, I don't think it's a valid reason to unify both degree names. Intrinsic to a DO degree is the philosophy of osteopathic medicine, so I think that's a reason to keep it a distinct degree name. If you don't believe in osteopathic medicine and apply to DO schools only as a backup option, then that's wrong IMO.

That's bull****. Claims and mottos like that are only to help make things worse and more confusing. Nobody pays hundreds of thousands of dollars for medical school tuition just to support an old philosophy but to become a candidate for residency training at the American healthcare system as a medical school graduate after 4 years. DO schools are private, and whomever pays for it after being admitted, can go for it. Being a believer or non-believer to the osteopathic philosophy just to be able to apply for the DO schools is irrelevant.

Read this to cleans your thoughts a bit:

AMSA RECOGNIZES the equality of osteopathic and allopathic medical degrees within the organization and the healthcare community as a whole. As such, DO students shall be entitled to the same opportunities and membership rights as allopathic students.

(Principles Regarding Osteopathic Medicine. Preamble, Purposes and Principles. AMSA 2012 HOD Resolutions. American Medical Student Association.)​

 

[sylvanthus]

I think if you choose to apply for DO schools, most if not all of them promote the philosophy of osteopathic medicine, then you should be proud of your DO education and degree. Even though in practice the difference between a MD and DO physician is becoming less obvious, I don't think it's a valid reason to unify both degree names. Intrinsic to a DO degree is the philosophy of osteopathic medicine, so I think that's a reason to keep it a distinct degree name. If you don't believe in osteopathic medicine and apply to DO schools only as a backup option, then that's wrong IMO.

Dude trust me there is no "philosophy." It is bunk, hogwash, smoke and mirrors. You will understand this if and when you go to DO school.

 

[MedPR]

This thread is giving me an headache.

YOU DON'T GET A DO OR MD DEGREE. The acronym is not something you are issued. Your diploma says doctor of medicine or doctor of osteopathic medicine. That is the degree you get.

Who cares? We all understand what we mean by "MD degree". Don't make this thread about semantics.

 

[MedPR]

I think if you choose to apply for DO schools, most if not all of them promote the philosophy of osteopathic medicine, then you should be proud of your DO education and degree. Even though in practice the difference between a MD and DO physician is becoming less obvious, I don't think it's a valid reason to unify both degree names. Intrinsic to a DO degree is the philosophy of osteopathic medicine, so I think that's a reason to keep it a distinct degree name. If you don't believe in osteopathic medicine and apply to DO schools only as a backup option, then that's wrong IMO.

Is it wrong for people to pursue dentistry/pharmacy/podiatry/PT/OT if they can't get into medical school?

 

[LovelyBRass]

This thread is giving me an headache.

YOU DON'T GET A DO OR MD DEGREE. The acronym is not something you are issued. Your diploma says doctor of medicine or doctor of osteopathic medicine. That is the degree you get.

Putting a DO or MD after your name is based on the laws in your state. That is it. It's a state law. Currently in every state those who are licensed using COMLEX after graduating from a school that grants a doctorate in osteopathic medicine use DO to signify their licensed status, and those who attend any other type of medical school and are licensed using the USMLE use MD.

AGAIN THIS IS STATE LAW. Holy crap there are so many premeds in this thread going "the AOA doesn't want to give out the MD instead of the DO" which is just a )(&**&)*&)()*&(ing incoherent statement.

You're taking a lot of years off your life by arguing this. This distinction you're trying to promote doesn't really matter. It's not like state legislatures say, "oh no, osteopathic medicine is too different to be labeled under the umbrella term of 'MD'." Osteopathic medical schools offer a doctorate of osteopathic medicine and promote the difference and therefore create this separate identity themselves that is manifest in our legal system.

I didn't screw up my first year, and I'm already in school thx premed. Still coming across as a dick. Totally missed the point as well.

And it's really counterproductive (and rude) to belittle people on this forum just because they're your junior.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

Is it wrong for people to pursue dentistry/pharmacy/podiatry/PT/OT if they can't get into medical school?

Tots, I mean it's like converting to gay. It's wrong and ungodly!

 

[tc4523]

That's bull****. Claims and mottos like that are only to help make things worse and more confusing. Nobody pays hundreds of thousands of dollars for medical school tuition just to support an old philosophy but to become a candidate for residency training at the American healthcare system as a medical school graduate after 4 years. DO schools are private, and whomever pays for it after being admitted, can go for it. Being a believer or non-believer to the osteopathic philosophy just to be able to apply for the DO schools is irrelevant.

Read this to cleans your thoughts a bit:

AMSA RECOGNIZES the equality of osteopathic and allopathic medical degrees within the organization and the healthcare community as a whole. As such, DO students shall be entitled to the same opportunities and membership rights as allopathic students.

(Principles Regarding Osteopathic Medicine. Preamble, Purposes and Principles. AMSA 2012 HOD Resolutions. American Medical Student Association.)​

Dude trust me there is no "philosophy." It is bunk, hogwash, smoke and mirrors. You will understand this if and when you go to DO school.

Sure, I do agree with you. I didn't mean that everybody apply to DO schools to support their osteopathic medicine philosophy. But there are still people who believe in it, prefer DO over MD schools, and are proud of their DO degree....hence the two distinct degree names.

I'm just trying to make a point, in regards to the original question, that if you want a MD degree, then apply to MD schools. If you want a DO degree, then apply to DO schools. If you just want to work in a healthcare field and practice medicine, then it shouldn't matter whether it's the DO or MD degree that you get in the end. Since many DO schools explicitly say that they promote the philosophy and grant a DO degree after you graduate, then don't apply there if you don't like it. There are MD schools that you can apply to as well

 

[MedPR]

Sure, I do agree with you. I didn't mean that everybody apply to DO schools to support their osteopathic medicine philosophy. But there are still people who believe in it, prefer DO over MD schools, and are proud of their DO degree....hence the two distinct degree names.

I'm just trying to make a point, in regards to the original question, that if you want a MD degree, then apply to MD schools. If you want a DO degree, then apply to DO schools. If you just want to work in a healthcare field and practice medicine, then it shouldn't matter whether it's the DO or MD degree that you get in the end. Since many DO schools explicitly say that they promote the philosophy and grant a DO degree after you graduate, then don't apply there if you don't like it. There are MD schools that you can apply to as well

The point is there is no such thing as "DO philosophy". The only practical difference is OMM and not every DO believes in OMM. The whole "holistic" thing is across the board in medicine, not just DO school.

 

[NeuroLAX]

The point is there is no such thing as "DO philosophy". The only practical difference is OMM and not every DO believes in OMM. The whole "holistic" thing is across the board in medicine, not just DO school.

MedPR you have not had any osteopathic training, nor do you know much about osteopathic principles. You can't simply use the "holistic" argument as a scapegoat for saying there is no such thing as DO philosophy. I agree, holistic practices are present in both the DO and MD community. The whole preventive medicine aspect is also present in both, and these should not and cannot be used by DOs as a point of difference. I agree with you on that front.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

This thread is giving me an headache.

YOU DON'T GET A DO OR MD DEGREE. The acronym is not something you are issued. Your diploma says doctor of medicine or doctor of osteopathic medicine. That is the degree you get.

Putting a DO or MD after your name is based on the laws in your state. That is it. It's a state law. Currently in every state those who are licensed using COMLEX after graduating from a school that grants a doctorate in osteopathic medicine use DO to signify their licensed status, and those who attend any other type of medical school and are licensed using the USMLE use MD.

AGAIN THIS IS STATE LAW. Holy crap there are so many premeds in this thread going "the AOA doesn't want to give out the MD instead of the DO" which is just a )(&**&)*&)()*&(ing incoherent statement.

...er... no... though you may legislate who may put MD behind his name, if one graduates from an allopathic med school he is awarded a degree in Medicinae Doctor...

 

[sinombre]

...er... no... though you may legislate who may put MD behind his name, if one graduates from an allopathic med school he is awarded a degree in Medicinae Doctor...

yup.

 

[RogueUnicorn]

pretty angry dude

 

[tc4523]

Is it wrong for people to pursue dentistry/pharmacy/podiatry/PT/OT if they can't get into medical school?

I apologize because that's not what I intended that particular sentence to mean. There is nothing wrong with people pursuing other healthcare professions as backup career plan. But they should be proud of their choice and not asking for degree names to be unified, despite similar medical education. There are other people who value the distinction between MD and DO--I still see people in the DO forum wanting to apply DO, rather than MD, because they "love osteopathic medicine". It is, however, a different story though if they are just faking it.

 

[notbobtrustme]

• Both osteopathic and allopathic medical schools in the US have science based pre-requisite courses for admission (physics, gen.chem., organic chem., biology, and even biochem/genetics.)
• Both osteopathic and allopathic medical schools in the US request MCAT scores from their applicants.
• Both osteopathic and allopathic medical schools in the US teach the same medical courses and techniques, with an addition of OMM course at osteopathic medical schools.

Walks like a duck, looks like a duck, sounds like a duck... Both are graduating the same type of doctors at the end.

A DO isn't an MD+.

 

[MedPR]

MedPR you have not had any osteopathic training, nor do you know much about osteopathic principles. You can't simply use the "holistic" argument as a scapegoat for saying there is no such thing as DO philosophy. I agree, holistic practices are present in both the DO and MD community. The whole preventive medicine aspect is also present in both, and these should not and cannot be used by DOs as a point of difference. I agree with you on that front.

My idea of Osteopathic philosophy is what the DO schools have on their web page.

If a DO philosophy exists, what is it? Yes I haven't gone to DO school, but by the same logic, as a DO student who hasn't gone to MD school, you can't tell me that the DO philosophy is different than the MD.



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[DrBumblebee]

A DO isn't an MD+.

No intention was made to say which is more than which. It's not a versus game. It's the same game, both are at the same side. The same title is expected to be given. Then, a school giving a better education to its students can be measured by the same standards at the end. Today's system is not only confusing but also has leaks in it. We're talking about a standardization of medical school degrees.

 

[MedPR]

No intention was made to say which is more than which. It's not a versus game. It's the same game, both are at the same side. The same title is expected to be given. Then, a school giving a better education to its students can be measured by the same standards at the end. Today's system is not only confusing but also has leaks in it. We're talking about a standardization of medical school degrees.

If current AOA programs are going to be accredited by the ACGME/LCME, then the education will be standardized. The fact that there are two separate degrees will not hinder the standardization of medical education/treatment, which ultimately is all that matters.

 

[Translation]

Anyone else see the pre-osteopathic forum?

"Janitor vs DO". And "DO vs PA" threads make me question if that pool of applicants would even merge right with the neurotic MD pool

 

[Ost3oclast]

Anyone else see the pre-osteopathic forum?

"Janitor vs DO". And "DO vs PA" threads make me question if that pool of applicants would even merge right with the neurotic MD pool

The Janitor vs. DO thread is epic.

 

[circulus vitios]

This is a surprisingly good take on the MD vs DO troll thread. I'm not sure if it was the original intent of the thread starter but either way, good job. 👍

 

[PennDippody]

MedPR you have not had any osteopathic training, nor do you know much about osteopathic principles. You can't simply use the "holistic" argument as a scapegoat for saying there is no such thing as DO philosophy. I agree, holistic practices are present in both the DO and MD community. The whole preventive medicine aspect is also present in both, and these should not and cannot be used by DOs as a point of difference. I agree with you on that front.

^^^ "MedPR, you don't know what you're talking about but you do know what you are talking about and I agree with you"

 

[Hemorrage]

the most ironic thing about this thread is that you have a bunch of pre-meds (discounting med posters) arguing that DO is inferior to MD yet they hold neither.

 

[WhovianDO]

the most ironic thing about this thread is that you have a bunch of pre-meds (discounting med posters) arguing that do is inferior to md yet they hold neither.

+1

 

[Wilf]

the most ironic thing about this thread is that you have a bunch of pre-meds (discounting med posters) arguing that DO is inferior to MD yet they hold neither.

So based on that logic, you don't think someone who has never gone to college should opine that a masters degree is higher than a bachelors? One does not need a certain degree to consider its place.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

So based on that logic, you don't think someone who has never gone to college should opine that a masters degree is higher than a bachelors? One does not need a certain degree to consider its place.

Because that analogy is totally salient without issue. I mean say a bachelors degree in engineering is less than a masters in theatrical history.
And even then, to asses DO as being analogous to divide between a BS and MS is hilarious. And especially hilarious when spouted by a person who may end up being a broadcast journalist by the year's end.

 

[MedPR]

the most ironic thing about this thread is that you have a bunch of pre-meds (discounting med posters) arguing that DO is inferior to MD yet they hold neither.

I dont think anyone is saying DO is inferior.

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[CrimsonKing]

the most ironic thing about this thread is that you have a bunch of pre-meds (discounting med posters) arguing that DO is inferior to MD yet they hold neither.

No. You have people arguing that they are different and should be designated as such, unless certain aspects of curricula are standardized between the two.

 

[sliceofbread136]

the most ironic thing about this thread is that you have a bunch of pre-meds (discounting med posters) arguing that DO is inferior to MD yet they hold neither.

1. Who said anything like that?
2. Why would you need to hold either degrees to make that statement anyway...

 

[Ost3oclast]

Because that analogy is totally salient without issue. I mean say a bachelors degree in engineering is less than a masters in theatrical history.
And even then, to asses DO as being analogous to divide between a BS and MS is hilarious. And especially hilarious when spouted by a person who may end up being a broadcast journalist by the year's end.

Hahahahaha

 

[MedPR]

2. Why would you need to hold either degrees to make that statement anyway...

Because that's how SDN works. If you haven't completed something you have absolutely no knowledge of it. Everything on medicine is a huge secret and they are only revealed to you if you are directly involved.

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[sliceofbread136]

Because that's how SDN works. If you haven't completed something you have absolutely no knowledge of it. Everything on medicine is a huge secret and they are only revealed to you if you are directly involved.

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You hit the nail on the head lol