Is med school like studying for the MCAT 24/7?

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The volume is more than college for sure but you don’t have to juggle numerous non-academic things like you did in college. I feel like I have a ton more free time and the material requires much less mental masturbation.
 
If you do away/elective rotations like this, does the school pay for travel/moving expenses? I would assume not for a nontrad with a family, but for the individual student?

Nope. Most don’t provide housing either. It really depends on your program, though. The away I am doing provides housing and meals, but i turned downed the housing (a dorm).
 
Nope. Most don’t provide housing either. It really depends on your program, though. The away I am doing provides housing and meals, but i turned downed the housing (a dorm).
It must be like you say, varies by program. I know my state university has like 350 different clinical sights across 6 states...granted, WWAMI is its mission so...
 
I got up at 5 every morning, or at least I did when I'm not on break lol, and worked out and then hit the anki train starting at about 7. Rotations will be different so my schedule will be all over the place now but getting up at 5 is very doable and I would encourage anyone to do so if they can. I would suggest to not go into school with hard and fast familial obligations. I too have a family and kids and what I wanted to do when school started and what I was able to do as time went on were different. Not necessarily in a bad "I can't do anything with the family" type way but more in a "I can't do that thing you want me to do but how about I do this instead" type way.


Depends, for us it's when we start systems in spring of first year. Many do this second year which is more the traditional curriculum.
Thanks...when I spoke of familial obligations, I meant things like getting kids up for school, dropping them off or ensuring they catch the bus, etc.

My husband and I are sort of reversing roles. I’ve been the parent that handles dr appts, after school activities and performances/sports events for 20 years. Now he’s going to handle all that while I’m in school. Our kids range in age from 21-12, so they’re much more independent than littles.
 
Everyone is going to have different responses. I was a non-traditional student that didn't take any science classes beyond freshman year, and was out of the game for a little while. I went to a school that did not have mandatory lectures. I woke up early each day and studied until night (assuming I wasn't going to campus for mandatory lab, quizzes, or exams). Intern year was a cakewalk compared to MS-1. It did get progressively better each year. But I have completely blocked out MS-1. It was the worst year of my life, and I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Well, I take that back... Maybe just my ex-.
 
Thanks...when I spoke of familial obligations, I meant things like getting kids up for school, dropping them off or ensuring they catch the bus, etc.

My husband and I are sort of reversing roles. I’ve been the parent that handles dr appts, after school activities and performances/sports events for 20 years. Now he’s going to handle all that while I’m in school. Our kids range in age from 21-12, so they’re much more independent than littles.

Yeah kids that age are much more manageable for med school. Ours are littles, my wife is a rockstar thank goodness and does it like a champ. I help out when I can but she carries most of the load. Med school and family really is pretty doable as long as you are effective with your time and I think you'll be surprised at what is possible for you to do.
 
Not really. Med school is more like studying for college courses but you're expected to understand and be tested on a semester's worth of material every 3 weeks or so. It's mostly a matter of volume and application.
God damn.....an entire semester in just 3 weeks time??!?
 
Sounds about right from what I have heard. You likely get used to it and adapt.
Sounds like hell on earth. I struggled in a regular semester let alone 4 times the speed.
 
Ask a simple question, get a simple answer.

And, simply put, the two aren't comparable. You could more closely compare Step study and MCAT prep than an entire 2yrs of medical school on one hand and a single test-focused study period on the other.

Besides, it largely depends on your medical school. At mine, we had no more than 8hrs/wk of required sessions on average, and only another 6 of optional stuff. Exams were once every few months or so (only 5 real sets of exams in 1.5yrs of preclinicals, though we took 5 exams each time). I had time to join a sports team, do extracurriculars, watch most of Netflix (only sort of joking there), and study the way I wanted to (reading textbooks that interested me) and still have a better, more robust social life than I've had at any prior educational level.
Hell, thinking back, high school was more hectic simply from the sheer volume of required busywork, the never-ending exams, and the only-sort-of-optional extracurriculars. College was definitely more work because it straight up had more required class hours and a LOT more homework, plus a lot more individualized curriculum without as many efficient learning resources out there or as much overlap in subjects.

There really isn't that much material in medical school, and it all builds on itself nicely and is something you're (hopefully) interested in. There are concrete answers, and less of the challenging "figure out this concept that your brain literally has never conceived of before" with more straightforward "this is how this works" or "you can't reason an answer out of this, so here's the research-based approach that we use, remember it."

That being said, a lot of it you really can intuit if you understand the underlying physiology well, which can help you cut down on the straight memorization if that doesn't work for you. And again, lots of streamlined resources.
what med school did you go to?!?!? everyone I know in med school says they do nothing but study and have no social life!
 
what med school did you go to?!?!? everyone I know in med school says they do nothing but study and have no social life!
This is the exact opposite of everyone I talk to. One with an 18 month preclinical, one with a 2 year preclinical - the consensus is that they have more free time to do what they want than during undergrad because everything builds on itself and is internally consistent.
 
what med school did you go to?!?!? everyone I know in med school says they do nothing but study and have no social life!

I had a social life because I wanted one (I am married lol). You’ll burn out so fast if that is how you approach med school.
 
This is the exact opposite of everyone I talk to. One with an 18 month preclinical, one with a 2 year preclinical - the consensus is that they have more free time to do what they want than during undergrad because everything builds on itself and is internally consistent.

Depends on what kind of studier you are, honestly. I had a lot more free time in undergrad (lower volume and i just “got” things much faster)
 
It's about one semester of undergrad content per month I'd say. Like my undergrad intro to neuro class covered mostly the same material as our neuro unit, but in a few weeks instead of a few months
so almost like a summer session in college where every thing gets condensed into 1-2 months?
 
Yeah it's basically like that except instead of being able to cram and dump it, you're expected to learn it all permanently. Makes a big difference too
Wait, we’re supposed to dump information after cramming in undergrad? Why did no one tel me this!
 
So, like, at what point during medical school do you actually start learning about disease states and treatments?

Depends on the school. For my school. the first 5ish months were anatomy + basic sciences - we touched on some pathology during this time, but didn't really cover treatment/management. We started organ modules in the spring, which includes normal+disease states, as well as treatment/management of relevant conditions. We continue organ modules throughout second year.
 
Not really. Med school is more like studying for college courses but you're expected to understand and be tested on a semester's worth of material every 3 weeks or so. It's mostly a matter of volume and application.

That's insanity, no wonder people lose their sanity and have no balance.
 
That's insanity, no wonder people lose their sanity and have no balance.
I think the ‘have no balance’ aspect is because students fail to make the transition. In Undergrad you need to know 95+% of that volume. That is not necessarily the case in med school, so i hear. There will always be more material to learn and it is up to the student to develop the ability to say “Ok, I know enough now” as opposed to learning all of the material (because learning all of the material is impossible).

Note* Just a premed, but this seems to be a recurrent conversation in these threads
 
I think the ‘have no balance’ aspect is because students fail to make the transition. In Undergrad you need to know 95+% of that volume. That is not necessarily the case in med school, so i hear. There will always be more material to learn and it is up to the student to develop the ability to say “Ok, I know enough now” as opposed to learning all of the material (because learning all of the material is impossible).

Note* Just a premed, but this seems to be a recurrent conversation in these threads

I’m currently studying for the MCAT for the second time and have been burned out for a little bit and I am seriously questioning if I should still pursue medical school if this is what it’s going to be like for two years straight. I also wouldn’t start until I’m almost 33 which means I wouldn’t finish residency until 41. I'm very late to the game and very late to making an actual income.
 
I’m currently studying for the MCAT for the second time and have been burned out for a little bit and I am seriously questioning if I should still pursue medical school if this is what it’s going to be like for two years straight. I also wouldn’t start until I’m almost 33 which means I wouldn’t finish residency until 41. I'm very late to the game and very late to making an actual income.

That's insanity, no wonder people lose their sanity and have no balance.


Medical school is a full time job. At least 40 hours a week minimum. The clinical years are actually “worse” time wise because you are expected to study on top of working 10+ hour days on rotations.
 
Medical school is a full time job. At least 40 hours a week minimum. The clinical years are actually “worse” time wise because you are expected to study on top of working 10+ hour days on rotations.
Eh, I'd say preclinical is more like 20 hrs/week if your school let's you skip lectures and you are efficient. 4-5 hours per day of UFAPS / Boards&Beyond should be plenty.

On the wards is a different story, the worst ones like Medicine will keep you in the hospital for 60 hours/week and expect you to study for the all-encompassing shelf exam in the little time you have left at home.
 
Eh, I'd say preclinical is more like 20 hrs/week if your school let's you skip lectures and you are efficient. 4-5 hours per day of UFAPS / Boards&Beyond should be plenty.

True. I was including any mandatory labs or anything schools have you do each week.
 
Eh, I'd say preclinical is more like 20 hrs/week if your school let's you skip lectures and you are efficient. 4-5 hours per day of UFAPS / Boards&Beyond should be plenty.

On the wards is a different story, the worst ones like Medicine will keep you in the hospital for 60 hours/week and expect you to study for the all-encompassing shelf exam in the little time you have left at home.

Typically how many chapters worth of material is on each shelf exam for each respective rotation/department? How many questions per shelf exam, or is it a practical exam where they test clinical skills?
 
Typically how many chapters worth of material is on each shelf exam for each respective rotation/department? How many questions per shelf exam, or is it a practical exam where they test clinical skills?

All shelf exams are 110 questions except FM which is 90. Shelf exams usually are administered by the NBME.

For IM, the entirety of something like Step Up to Medicine is included. Or, study using the 1500 IM questions on UWorld.
 
Typically how many chapters worth of material is on each shelf exam for each respective rotation/department? How many questions per shelf exam, or is it a practical exam where they test clinical skills?
Shelves are all multiple choice Qs. 110 Qs total. You could fill multiple textbooks with the material that is fair game for the Medicine shelf
 
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