Is PACIFIC harder than a 4 year program?

[billyjones]

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How do you think the work load at UoP compares to 4 year programs?

With talk about how hard some of the 4 year programs are, it seems a little intimidating to think about what a 3 year might be like.

 

[TONItheSURFER]

from what i read before, UOP has less clinical hours.

 

[diagnodent]

yes it is harder the first year,

and there are actually more clinical hours

 

[purduephigam]

Keep in mind you will have to endure three years straight. For some people that may not be a problem, being that once it's over it'll probably feel like you just blinked your eyes. However, for the people who can't function without proper breaks, it may indeed feel more difficult.

 

[dddsmack]

Doing four years worth of already jam-packed dental school work in three years sounds hard to me.

 

[WSDriller]

At a 4-year program you have time to breathe and at many places the 3rd year is pretty laid back. At UoP it is pretty much non-stop for 3 years straight with not much of a break. This is what I have heard.

 

[armorshell]

The only thing they get rid of in their program is recess. Take the breaks out of any other dental school's program and they'd be 3 years too. In fact, go back 30 years and you'd see 5 or 6 other dental schools with 3 year programs.

 

[in her drawer]

The only thing they get rid of in their program is recess. Take the breaks out of any other dental school's program and they'd be 3 years too. In fact, go back 30 years and you'd see 5 or 6 other dental schools with 3 year programs.

HAY GUYS WHAT'S GOIN ON IN THIS THREAD?

Oh man, yes. Let's rock UoP.

 

[TheNobleTooth]

The only thing they get rid of in their program is recess. Take the breaks out of any other dental school's program and they'd be 3 years too. In fact, go back 30 years and you'd see 5 or 6 other dental schools with 3 year programs.

That is not true. Although UOP's program is three year, and people like to say that UOP's dental program is four years worth of dental school packed into three years, I disagree with that statement.

Other four and five-year (Maryland) dental programs pretty much have no summer breaks. So by going to a four or five year dental program, you learn more than what the students at UOP are learning. Image what a one-year worth of dental education can do for you, giving you and edge, esp if you are applying for a specialty program.

I heard a lot of UOP students come out from dental school lacking clinical skills.

UOP is literally for older students who want to simply graduate from dental school, not specialize, and start working to make money. Yup, the one year cut off from UOP's program saves you money.

 

[NufinButTheToof]

five-year (Maryland) dental programs

I heard a lot of UOP students come out from dental school lacking clinical skills.

UOP is literally for older students who want to simply graduate from dental school, not specialize, and start working to make money. Yup, the one year cut off from UOP's program saves you money.

1) Since when was Maryland's dental program 5 years long?
2) You obviously have no clue what UOP's tuition is like? I don't think anyone chooses UOP because they want to save money!

 

[armorshell]

That is not true. Although UOP's program is three year, and people like to say that UOP's dental program is four years worth of dental school packed into three years, I disagree with that statement.

Other four and five-year (Maryland) dental programs pretty much have no summer breaks. So by going to a four or five year dental program, you learn more than what the students at UOP are learning. Image what a one-year worth of dental education can do for you, giving you and edge, esp if you are applying for a specialty program.

I heard a lot of UOP students come out from dental school lacking clinical skills.

UOP is literally for older students who want to simply graduate from dental school, not specialize, and start working to make money. Yup, the one year cut off from UOP's program saves you money.

And you learned this through...interviewing at the school? Talking to UoP students? Or just piecing together half-truths with random things you've heard other people say.

Funny, you talk about how it's such a bad school for specializing; while it's true that a low percentage of the class chooses not to specialize, the percentage that do almost all get in, it's a very well respected program.

Additionally, if any UoP student felt that they were underperforming clinically, they could enter into a GPR or AEGD program and still be "done" in 4 years.

 

[jmick101]

I heard a lot of UOP students come out from dental school lacking clinical skills.

UOP is literally for older students who want to simply graduate from dental school, not specialize, and start working to make money. Yup, the one year cut off from UOP's program saves you money.

Very amusing! I assume of course that you are kidding because it is common knowledge that Pacific produces fine clinicians. Think about it, how could they hope to produce Dentists ready to start making money if they lacked the basic clinical skills? I would rethink your position, it doesn't make much sense.

 

[TheNobleTooth]

1) Since when was Maryland's dental program 5 years long?

That's what my dentist told me. He's an alum of Maryland, and never had good things to say about UOP.

He said that UOP is a three year program, and said that even though UOP students don't have summer breaks, that's also the case with other dental schools that are four years long.

He even told me Maryland is five years with hardly any summer break.

So the punchline he told me is to attend a four year dental program where I can learn more than what a UOP student can learn.

2) You obviously have no clue what UOP's tuition is like? I don't think anyone chooses UOP because they want to save money!

I do know that UOP is a darn expensive dental school to attend. It's private, and Dr Yarbrough from UOP even told me that the 4th year taken away from their program can save you $$$$$$.

 

[TheNobleTooth]

No I am not kidding, and I've heard stories from dentists and adcoms from other dental schools state that three years worth of dental school is insufficient.

This is why a lot of UOP students applying for specialty programs are turned down while anotehr applicant from a four year dental school is admitted because he or she has more experience in dental school.

yes, dental school doesn't teach you everything (just in case you argue that point) within four years.

However, I'd rather learn one more years worth of dental education within a four year dental program. That's just my honest opinion.

While some of the UOP graduates are fine clinicians, I see a lot of them ending up in GPR programs where they can't even extract a tooth properly. I spent two years observing at a dental clinic and watched a UOP grad work on patients.

#1, he was too damn cocky to talk to me, or even answer my questions.

#2, he literally cracked a patient's tooth while extracting it.

#3, his hand skills sucked when it came to orthodontics. I guess he just hates ortho, but still, a good clinician as you claim wouldn't be whining about placing brackets on a patient's teeth. right?

Very amusing! I assume of course that you are kidding because it is common knowledge that Pacific produces fine clinicians. Think about it, how could they hope to produce Dentists ready to start making money if they lacked the basic clinical skills? I would rethink your position, it doesn't make much sense.

 

[Envision]

No I am not kidding, and I've heard stories from dentists and adcoms from other dental schools state that three years worth of dental school is insufficient.

This is why a lot of UOP students applying for specialty programs are turned down while anotehr applicant from a four year dental school is admitted because he or she has more experience in dental school.

yes, dental school doesn't teach you everything (just in case you argue that point) within four years.

However, I'd rather learn one more years worth of dental education within a four year dental program. That's just my honest opinion.

While some of the UOP graduates are fine clinicians, I see a lot of them ending up in GPR programs where they can't even extract a tooth properly. I spent two years observing at a dental clinic and watched a UOP grad work on patients.

#1, he was too damn cocky to talk to me, or even answer my questions.

#2, he literally cracked a patient's tooth while extracting it.

#3, his hand skills sucked when it came to orthodontics. I guess he just hates ortho, but still, a good clinician as you claim wouldn't be whining about placing brackets on a patient's teeth. right?

By now, we should know not to regard anecdotal evidence as factual evidence. I know a couple of UoP dentist who are very skilled clinicians...likewise i spoke to a professor who thought UoP dentists are great dentist but a dentist from school X is bad. what does this prove? it proves people have opinions. I think all of these schools offer you the training you need to become a dentist...but it depends on the individual. for example, if your a fast learner and take in massive info quickly...UoP is probably for you. if you like to move slowly..then its probably not for you.

 

[diagnodent]

Are you serious that UOP are bad clinicians because you talked to someone who bad mouthed them and observed one who was an a**hole or he thought you were an a**hole so he didn't talk to you. Based on your post I would think it was the later.

UOP grads are some of the best clinicians graduating from all schools. I know b/c I am one. Also, most other dentists I know think very highly of UOP grads. Let's think of former UOP grads: dorfman, buchannan, hornsbrook, and dickerson. Any other school would love to claim one of those four as a graduate and UOP has all 4.

The claim that specialty programs look down on UOP is just false. Everyone who applied to residency out of my class got in except those who were delusional about their chances.

 

[RDHwife]

FYI TheNobleTOoth:

You might want to let your dentist know that Maryland is actually going to start offering a 3 year program in the future. My brother is a 2nd year there and he says that students will have the option to accererate and finish in 3 years.

You can not base a school off of one dentist that you meet. I also had a boss that said that UOP was not a good school and this boss was probably the crappiest dentist I have ever met. I have seen several UOP grads that are amazing dentists and very successful. In any school, you are going to have students who work hard and those who do the bare min to skate by. Ot judge a program based off of one person or one dentists skewed opinion is crazy.

 

[rollingstones]

No I am not kidding, and I've heard stories from dentists and adcoms from other dental schools state that three years worth of dental school is insufficient.

This is why a lot of UOP students applying for specialty programs are turned down while anotehr applicant from a four year dental school is admitted because he or she has more experience in dental school.

yes, dental school doesn't teach you everything (just in case you argue that point) within four years.

However, I'd rather learn one more years worth of dental education within a four year dental program. That's just my honest opinion.

While some of the UOP graduates are fine clinicians, I see a lot of them ending up in GPR programs where they can't even extract a tooth properly. I spent two years observing at a dental clinic and watched a UOP grad work on patients.

#1, he was too damn cocky to talk to me, or even answer my questions.

#2, he literally cracked a patient's tooth while extracting it.

#3, his hand skills sucked when it came to orthodontics. I guess he just hates ortho, but still, a good clinician as you claim wouldn't be whining about placing brackets on a patient's teeth. right?

Like the others have said above, I really wish you reconsider your reasoning there buddy.
#1: he might have been cocky, but maybe he was just busy. afterall, you are the observer and he's the doctor.
#2: cracking tooth, specifically roots, are not uncommon during extraction procedure (time for a root picker). Even when the roots are not broken, when a tooth is being extracted (when roots are "separated" from the bone; roughly speaking), the tooth cracking noise can be heard.
#3: I don't know how the whining about placing brackets can be related to a dentist's hand skills and sometimes orthodontic tx requires high precision.

Less schooling doesn't instantly mean a bad dentist.

 

[TheNobleTooth]

Are you serious that UOP are bad clinicians because you talked to someone who bad mouthed them and observed one who was an a**hole or he thought you were an a**hole so he didn't talk to you. Based on your post I would think it was the later.

Whatevers kid. Other of my friends who observed this UOP-alum jerk didn't like his personality either. So call me an dingus all you want because you're just taking my messages seriously. Chill bud.

UOP grads are some of the best clinicians graduating from all schools. I know b/c I am one.

See, that's why you're getting your panties in a bunch because you're a UOP grad. Enough said. 🙂

 

[TheNobleTooth]

FYI TheNobleTOoth:

You might want to let your dentist know that Maryland is actually going to start offering a 3 year program in the future. My brother is a 2nd year there and he says that students will have the option to accererate and finish in 3 years.

You can not base a school off of one dentist that you meet. I also had a boss that said that UOP was not a good school and this boss was probably the crappiest dentist I have ever met. I have seen several UOP grads that are amazing dentists and very successful. In any school, you are going to have students who work hard and those who do the bare min to skate by. Ot judge a program based off of one person or one dentists skewed opinion is crazy.

RDH, my point is that UOP is really not more difficult than other dental schools.

People think that UOP is more difficult because they cram their program into three years which excludes a big chunky summer vacation.

However, there are other 4-year dental programs I know of that also have small two-week summer breaks. So wouldn't you rather learn more from a four-year dental school than a 3-year dental school?

I know some of you are UOP grads and are taking my opinions too seriously.

I do know some UOP dental school grads who are good clinicians. But the majority I've came across either had to do GPR programs and their hand skills weren't good. That's all I had to say. Nothing personal against UOP guys. Let's chill.

 

[54807]

So I'm just a predent but on the interviews I've gone on, it seemed VERY easy to fit the 4 year curriculums into 3 years. Only 1 school kept their students busy year round for 4 years where 1 year less would not be possible. This was based upon personal observation as well as questioning students.

Pacific said they DO cut something that is present at other schools: The research aspect. It's not an emphasis nor required but it is still available.

Pacific's board scores aren't bad, so they must not be cutting those subjects. The pacific kids still do lots of waxups/carvings so it's not like they're sitting around.

Pacific also has optional night clinic so if clinic skills are in question there is that option as well.

We should stop attacking the schools though...I haven't really met a Pacific grad who regretted their choice....despite the rediculous costs involved.

 

[armorshell]

Your logic makes no sense. If UoP has such a deficient clinical program, how come their students have a higher-then-average amount of hours in the clinic?

Think about it, they start in the clinic their second year giving them...two years in the clinic! Just like every other dental school!!!

Also, I'm fairly sure you'll get more out of going to Pacific for 3 years then doing a GPR then you will just going to a 4 year school.

 

[54807]

Another thing...there are 2 things that I have learned about EVERY pacific grad I've met which is about 15 or so (i know that is a small amount but still)

1) They are all doing extremely well in their practice
2) They are extremely willing to help out in the commmunity whether clinically or as mentors. I ran the predent club at my school for awhile and I had more pacific grads contacting me to help than I knew what to do with. They found me, I didnt have to find them.

Just something to think about. Yeah lots of them at snotty about their pacific days but who cares, they're doin good things.

 

[JavadiCavity]

Your logic makes no sense. If UoP has such a deficient clinical program, how come their students have a higher-then-average amount of hours in the clinic?

Think about it, they start in the clinic their second year giving them...two years in the clinic! Just like every other dental school!!!

Also, I'm fairly sure you'll get more out of going to Pacific for 3 years then doing a GPR then you will just going to a 4 year school.

Pacific is great clinically. We are exposed to all kinds of procedures since there are only two specialties--ortho and a oral surgery. We have about the same percentage of people going on to specialize as the average dental school and we are done a year early. It is great! They also have probably the best alumni involvement in the school of any dental school, which speaks volumes about how you are treated while attending here. It is a great school and well worth any extra work. FYI: night clinic is optional second year, required third. They keep us hoppin to the tune of 50 hrs in class or clinic per week as opposed to an average of 30 in dental schools nation wide. It is busy and intense but good. You learn a lot.

 

[superchris147]

#3, his hand skills sucked when it came to orthodontics.

that's funny, probably the best joke i've heard in a while, keep them coming

p.s. i'm not trying to slam ortho people, but that was funny

 

[superchris147]

So I'm just a predent but on the interviews I've gone on, it seemed VERY easy to fit the 4 year curriculums into 3 years.

that was also a very funny joke, i will enjoy reading what you think as a dental student.

i thought i'd give my opinion: i've worked for 2 UOP general dentists and a UOP endodontist. They absolutely loved their school and are doing very well in private practice.

saying that uop isn't a good school is rediculous. saying that it is the best school is rediculous too. uop's cirriculum is unique but the bottom line is that they produce competent dentists. what you predents should realize is that all the kids from UOP seem really happy with their school, which i think is most important. being unhappy with your school can really affect your performance.

saying it is harder or easier is rediculous too unless you've been to two different schools. i know they take a lot of classes at a time but so do a lot of schools (10+) and a lot of schools go year round or have extensions. i will admit that having no breaks would make it really difficult, at least for me. you guys should be focusing on what school best fits your personality because if you're happy you'll do a lot better

 

[NufinButTheToof]

#2, he literally cracked a patient's tooth while extracting it.

OOOOhh.. nooo! are you serious??

If you haven't cracked any teeth.. then you haven't pulled many out. This happens to everyone no matter how good you are.

 

[TheNobleTooth]

OOOOhh.. nooo! are you serious??

If you haven't cracked any teeth.. then you haven't pulled many out. This happens to everyone no matter how good you are.

Well, he was one of the ****ier UOP grads I have came across.

However, I know another UOP grad (unfortunately friends with that jerk) who's very nice to me, and he has better hand skills than that no-brainer.

I think that no-brainer UOP grad is doing a specialty program in oral surgery.

He really does hate ortho.

 

[djeffreyt]

a three year program produces less clinically well-trained dentists than a 4 year school?

I think the answer to that lies not in the subjective judgements of one or two dentists who you've "talked to about UOP" or the one or two graduates of UOP that you've observed. it's in the passage rates of clinical boards, and UOP passes students in the top 5% of schools

As far as not learning as much as in a 4 year school, if you want to spend extra time learning biochem and microbiology, then wonderful, but at a three year school you still get 2 years of pretty hardcore clinical time doing all the various procedures, and then you can use your fourth year in the best school of all...the real world.

 

[TNF-alpha]

FYI TheNobleTOoth:

You might want to let your dentist know that Maryland is actually going to start offering a 3 year program in the future. My brother is a 2nd year there and he says that students will have the option to accererate and finish in 3 years.

I heard Maryland was going to be the first 5 year dental school.

 

[TheNobleTooth]

I heard Maryland was going to be the first 5 year dental school.

^^ Exactly, which is my my dentist, a Maryland alum, was telling me that the their five-year program (with NOT too much summer break) will teach their students more than a dental student at UOP.

But that was just his opinion. I think UOP is a bit too expensive, while considering the cost of living in the Bay Area.

 

[armorshell]

So more years = better school amirite?

 

[TheNobleTooth]

^^ More schooling you get, the more opportunities you get to work on patients and learn how to clean teeth. That's what a lot of dentist lack, is knowing the basic cleaning methods.

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We all have our own opinions of each dental schools and how they are run. So let's not get our panties in a bunch.

 

[armorshell]

^^ More schooling you get, the more opportunities you get to work on patients and learn how to clean teeth. That's what a lot of dentist lack, is knowing the basic cleaning methods.

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We all have our own opinions of each dental schools and how they are run. So let's not get our panties in a bunch.

Seems to me like you're going to get a lot more clinical experience, what you so highly praise, and see quite a few more patients if you spend those extra years in a GPR, AEGD or in...private practice.

 

[NufinButTheToof]

^^ Exactly, which is my my dentist, a Maryland alum, was telling me that the their five-year program

Pacific has a 5-year program too. 🙂

http://www.pacific.edu/admission/academics/accel_programs/dental/index.asp

 

[shuna]

I think that UOP is a great school!!
That what I think...don't argue!!!!!!!🙂

 

[TheNobleTooth]

Pacific has a 5-year program too. 🙂

http://www.pacific.edu/admission/academics/accel_programs/dental/index.asp

No, I mean that Maryland will have a five-year program SOLELY for dental school.

That UOP five-year program includes two years of undergraduate studies. Whipee doo, as USC has a similar undergrad/dental school program. So does Creighton if I'm not mistaken.

 

[4thQtrDreams]

...UOP five-year program includes two years of undergraduate studies. Whipee doo....

Sour Grapes?

 

[thedudeabides6]

^^ More schooling you get, the more opportunities you get to work on patients and learn how to clean teeth. That's what a lot of dentist lack, is knowing the basic cleaning methods.

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We all have our own opinions of each dental schools and how they are run. So let's not get our panties in a bunch.

Basic cleaning methods? If I wanted to learn more basic cleaning methods, I could go to dental hygiene school.

As far as opinions on how schools are run, I can bet that you really don't know how Pacific is run. You only know that it is a 3 year program, and one dentist told you that he didn't like the program.

I can tell you that the school produces some fine clinicians, and that the students love it at Pacific. I can't speak to how it compares to other schools, because I just don't know enough to do that.

 

[TheNobleTooth]

Basic cleaning methods? If I wanted to learn more basic cleaning methods, I could go to dental hygiene school.

As far as opinions on how schools are run, I can bet that you really don't know how Pacific is run. You only know that it is a 3 year program, and one dentist told you that he didn't like the program.

I can tell you that the school produces some fine clinicians, and that the students love it at Pacific. I can't speak to how it compares to other schools, because I just don't know enough to do that.

I do know how UOP is run and opearted, as my friend's cousin attends that dental school.

And like I"ve said, I observed two separate UOP dental residents at a GPR program. One of them had a horrible attitude, thinking that he's the king of dentists. His hand skills suck, as he cracked a tooth while extracting it, and really made that patient angry as hell. He also has poor hand skills when it came to orthodontics, esp placing the rubberbands on the brackets.

My friend's cousins says it's an okay dental school, not too bad, and not the greatest in the nation.

A lot of applicants to UOP make it look like a competitive dental school (in terms of admissions) as they want to desperately graduate from a three-year program to finish dental school a year earlier than their counterparts at other four-year dental schools.

But other four-year dental schools usually have no summer breaks as well. So again, as I've mentioned like a broken record, that dental students at four-year dental programs learn a years worth of dental education more than a student from UOP's dental program.

And NO, UOP dental program is not that harder or more difficult than a four -year dental program.

 

[4thQtrDreams]

I do know how UOP is run and opearted, as my friend's cousin attends that dental school.....

Well my friend's cousin's boyfriend's sister's dog's veterenarian's brother knows a guy who used to work across the street from UoP and he says all the students are the best dentists and that it is THE #1 dental school on this planet, if not the entire galaxy.. 😉

he also told me that many schools, while they dont give summer breaks, have you spend what amounts to a year or more in externships.. so basically, a year of watching someone work instead of working yourself..😱

as this thread seems to be one persons rant, im pretty sure its just a case of sour grapes.

 

[Envision]

Well my friend's cousin's boyfriend's sister's dog's veterenarian's brother knows a guy who used to work across the street from UoP and he says all the students are the best dentists and that it is THE #1 dental school on this planet, if not the entire galaxy.. 😉

he also told me that many schools, while they dont give summer breaks, have you spend what amounts to a year or more in externships.. so basically, a year of watching someone work instead of working yourself..😱

as this thread seems to be one persons rant, im pretty sure its just a case of sour grapes.

HAHA! i was gonna say the same thing! knowing someone who is related to someone who knows someone is not a sufficient way of standardizing schools. In case i was not clear the first time, its not factual information. more annoying than that is that your so persistent on this opinion of yours, yet your not in any position to judge dental schools, since you don't know anything more than "this person said wah...that person said huh" stories. we get your perfectly supported opinions on UoP, lets leave it at that.

 

[Jone]

TheNobleTooth:

You really don't learn much in dental school. Take someone fresh out of a 4 year program versus someone who did a 3 year program and 1 year of work experience (or GPR/AEGD), the latter person will be way more proficient clinically in her 5th year. During your 1st year out of dental school, you will learn more than the 4 years you spent in school combined. You really can't judge someone's clinical skills because they crack a tooth while extracting it. Believe me, 20 years out of school, you will still do that time to time. And as for saying someone's ortho skills suck, that is just ridiculous. Nobody graduates from a pre-doctoral program with proficiency in orthodontics.

 

[uclaguy]

As a dental student at one of the most demanding 4 yr programs in the nation I will try to give you an unbiased opinion.

Currently within my 4 year program we learn quite a bit of biomedical information within our first 2 years. I know that at UOP there is less time to get as much biomedical exposure. If you are interested in having a stronger biomedical background then it maybe better to attend another dental school (since you got into UOP , you probably got into other top dental schools). The value of a strong biomedical background is a personal choice.

UOP clinically is very strong. I am still hesitant in cramming information and the learning process into 3 years. Students end up becoming excellent clinicians, however, they may have a less of a scope in terms of other aspects of dentistry. UOP is a highly focused program and they do produce great dentists.

Anyone who says UOP produces bad dentists is probably speaking from a few bad experiences. I am sure even the top dogs like Harvard, Columbia, and UCLA may produce some bad dentists, it is all case by case.

Many of the top dental schools are demanding, and so is UOP. That is why it is considered to be a highly regarded dental school.

 

[TheNobleTooth]

TheNobleTooth:

You really don't learn much in dental school. Take someone fresh out of a 4 year program versus someone who did a 3 year program and 1 year of work experience (or GPR/AEGD), the latter person will be way more proficient clinically in her 5th year. During your 1st year out of dental school, you will learn more than the 4 years you spent in school combined. You really can't judge someone's clinical skills because they crack a tooth while extracting it. Believe me, 20 years out of school, you will still do that time to time. And as for saying someone's ortho skills suck, that is just ridiculous. Nobody graduates from a pre-doctoral program with proficiency in orthodontics.

Yeah, but UOP's curriculum is not that much harder than other four-year dental programs.

And like the guy above me said, if you're into learning more didactics or wanting to get a better education in biomedics, then a four-year dental school (depends on which dental school) is the right school for you.

But overall, I don't think UOP is more difficult than other dental schools.

UOP may have more clinical time, but I'm pretty sure Temple, Marquette and other clinical-based dental schools perform just as well as UOP grads.

Now I know some people here are getting their panties in a bunch because they are either UOP grads and are getting offended by what Im saying. But that's just the way they react. 🙂

 

[Envision]

Now I know some people here are getting their panties in a bunch because they are either UOP grads and are getting offended by what Im saying. But that's just the way they react. 🙂

Nah, this reaction is usually a response to people who are ignorant yet pretentious. 😉

 

[sumluck]

my buddy is a D1 right now, he says it is fast-paced and intense, but he loves it. He also says he has learned so much in a short manner. Also, the faculty is super understanding...they know it's fast and intense, but they wouldn't accept you if they didn't think you could handle it. Also, Pacific is amongst one of the leaders when it comes to the amount of clinical work you perform... in addition they only have two specialty programs, which gives the pre-docs a lot of practice. Each school has their pros and cons, just depends on what you're looking for...

 

[CSI Dentist]

sumluck is smarty pants! 🙄

 

[sumluck]

hmmm... Do I know you? You sound like someone I know😛

 

[TheNobleTooth]

Nah, this reaction is usually a response to people who are ignorant yet pretentious. 😉

I hope you're talking about yourself.

On the other hand, this thread is a "bragging rights" thread for UOP students.

I can see a lot of UOP students or pre-dents who want to attend UOP trying to sugar coat the three-year program.

We all have different opinions, but it seems as if UOP grads are too full of themselves, and can't seem to accept other people's opinion of their three-year program.